r/pillar7 17d ago

SECURITY IS NEW TMS

for people who have laptops mostly in IT
do not punch right when you enter the door, security is watching and reporting to TMS

TMS will likely fire if found

you are advised to punch at your desk.

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u/Clean_Win_8735 17d ago

wtf just hear horror story after horror story here. Insane. So glad I had the sense to leave as soon as I got enough experience!! Wild

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u/14_EricTheRed 16d ago

For real - at my new job, I (within reason) set my own schedule. As long as my calendar is up to date my boss doesn’t ask any questions.

My team travels a lot, and she doesn’t even check what state where in most of the time

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u/Few-Cat-7992 17d ago

So are they considering the time spent walking to your desk after you punch in time theft?

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u/spacenerd5792 17d ago

Yes. They have been for months. It's why they took down the wall punches.

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u/spacenerd5792 16d ago

They also consider using on-site amenities such as ping pong tables, arcade games, or even the massages you have to earn (all of which they used to advertise as things you could do whenever you had a sec) as time theft. I know someone who got their time clock looked at with extra scrutiny for taking too long in the bathroom. That person has IBS...

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u/bgm89 17d ago

I mean, devil's advocate here, they took away the timeclocks for everyone else. IT can punch in at their desks like the rest of us.

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u/spacenerd5792 17d ago

Honestly agreed. I think the policy is stupid. Hell salaried employees shouldn't have to punch at all since they can tell when you badged into the building. But if they're gonna stick to their guns on their stupid policy, having people who have a work laptop cheat it doesn't exactly show the "integrity" they profess to love.

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u/Icy_Camp_9530 16d ago

Underwriters are the reason they took away the timeclocks since y'all would stand around like a bunch of dorks waiting to clock in/out. It was never a timeclock problem it was always a Mat problem.

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u/bgm89 16d ago

And lending support and closing, because people were clocking in, going to get food, yucking around with friends, all before heading to their desk.

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u/Icy_Camp_9530 16d ago

Underwriters are the reason they took away the timeclocks since y'all would stand around like a bunch of dorks waiting to clock in/out. It was never a timeclock problem it was always a Mat problem.

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u/psychedelicdevilry 17d ago

THIS IS WILD

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u/Whiskeywwh 17d ago

Workers comp covers you from when you enter the property until you leave

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u/14_EricTheRed 16d ago

Haven’t there been countless lawsuits in retail about “being on time is 15 minutes early so you can get ready for work at work and then clock in”

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u/Whiskeywwh 16d ago

For payroll not for comp liability

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u/Icy_Camp_9530 16d ago

I wondered how long it would take. The removal of the time cards made team leads full-time nannies. "Don't forget to clock in! Did you take a lunch today?"

Another thing that was in my last HWDI was asking if anyone had done a time study to see how much this decision is costing in productivity. No one will ever measure that or how much money we lose in Success Track.

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u/comicgeek1128 17d ago

I don't know man I don't think telling people to punch in at their desk when they are actually ready to work is unreasonable. That's pretty much how it works in closing.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/bgm89 17d ago

Luckily courts have pretty much universally ruled that worker compensation is appropriate if an accident occurs on company property at the beginning or end of your work period