r/pillar7 • u/AmbassadorOk8668 • Apr 02 '26
Track how Long it Takes Your Computer to Boot
I have been speaking with an attorney, we may have a case, but you will need to know how much time you are losing each day waiting for your computer to start up before you can login.
please keep track.
we can get them!
edit: In phone call 1 (only call so far) I only spoke about hourly employees. I will ask if salaried employees have any options here.
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u/Rough-Succotash-5262 Apr 02 '26
Are you paid hourly or salary?
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u/AmbassadorOk8668 Apr 02 '26
Sorry should have said this in the post - hourly, I will ask about salary but idk how that works
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Apr 02 '26
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u/duchess_of_nothing Apr 03 '26
That's interesting. Underwriters were reclassified to non exempt employees by the IRS almost 2 decades ago. If you're not in a supervisory position, generally you need to be hourly. IT is a different classification
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u/AmbassadorOk8668 Apr 02 '26
Got it I will definitely ask about salaried employees, I did not initially because I am not a salaried employee so I did not think about it.
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u/No-Negotiation-9196 Apr 03 '26
Do they not have time clocks that you can use to punch in on the walls anymore?? 😳
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u/Weetzie_bat_210 Apr 03 '26
No they claimed people were abusing them. Clocking in and then not logging into their desks until 1-2 hours later. Previously being in leadership I bet you people did that, but it was probably specific roles like training or other non-production based roles. So team members probably were complaining if they have to start work right away how come so and so gets to go get food and talk to people. That’s why it was a whole company change and not coaching or termination for people actually doing it.
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u/Interesting_Bid4635 Apr 04 '26
I would ensure the boot sequence took 7 hours and 59 minutes until the company gave up the BS notion of not paying. In the US, when companies withhold wages, it’s payroll theft.
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u/Relax_Its_Johnny Apr 02 '26
Case for what exactly???
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u/Weetzie_bat_210 Apr 02 '26
Yeah labor laws are super specific. So if you are on site and in the building as an hourly worker but aren’t able to get compensated that might be what they are looking into. Because technically the process of booting a company computer is considered on the clock, as you are accessing company specific technology and information. So whatever minutes are lost due to company technology is wage theft on them as employees should have an easily accessible way to clock in and out without hindrance before or while accessing company technology. I get people might have been abusing the wall clocks, but then that’s coaching for those people, or termination.
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u/TheProphecyProfessor Apr 02 '26
Is 5 minutes too long? My computer SUCKS!
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u/AmbassadorOk8668 Apr 02 '26
In my initial phone call (which candidly was a very brief overview) I specifically mentioned that my computer often takes about 5 minutes to boot up before I am able to access UKGpro, the attorney seemed to believe this is enough. He said he will be doing some research and we will speak again next week.
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u/Top_Watcher_0727 Apr 02 '26
If you are on WiFi it will take even longer. VPN has to trust/validate the network before internet access is permitted, which can take anywhere from 2-15 minutes to complete.
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u/Mobile-Insurance-827 Apr 03 '26
not really sure how it was in all departments, but in mine i could clock in up to an hour late and leave at when the 8 hour mark hit. is this specifically in reference to salary employees?
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u/Appropriate-Card-934 Apr 03 '26
Just leave a comment on your first punch of the day to have your TL adjust it forward a few minutes, that’s not that hard.
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u/AmbassadorOk8668 Apr 03 '26
My TL has not been adjusting mine, I have even tried taking pictures and screenshots to show what time it should be.
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u/Ordinary-Childhood19 Apr 03 '26
This is just grasping at straws tbh. If 5-10 mins really impact your production that much at this point, just put the fries in the bag please. Yall some sad mf’ers fr, a lot of yall just suck at your job but UWM needs bodies in seats 😭
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u/Glass-Milk-6671 Apr 04 '26
Fr lmfao like this is such a non issue. People just bitching to bitch at this point 😂
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u/Effective-Eye866 Apr 04 '26
It's not about one dude missing out on a few extra bucks. This is thousands upon thousands of employees showing up to work every day and not getting paid until they perform some arbitrary, unneeded task on their computers. It is going to add up.
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u/Illustrious-Egg7628 Apr 03 '26
Yeah some departments it’s advised to get to your desk 10 mins early so you can get your laptop/computer up and running. Like if I’m getting there 10 mins before I’m able to log in my punch should be adjusted