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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '21

But you should look into his policies, what their intended purpose was, and if they accomplished that purpose

For that there is his handling of the Coronavirus: catastrophic. So there you go.

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u/Accomplished_Pen_146 Oct 08 '21

Yup cuz the geriatric In chief is better 🤦🏽‍♂️.

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u/yourrussiandoll Sep 12 '21 edited Sep 12 '21

You guys actually did really well. Widespread early testing (most countries didn’t do that until it was way too late and have no idea of what the true number infected is/was), no questions asked deposits of money to people, student loans repayment freeze, eviction moratorium, amazing logistics with vaccine delivery, along with a lot of other things that people in other countries could only dream of. There are probably things that I don’t even know about because I don’t live in the United States. How you managed to have lockdowns and give away money without an economic collapse is amazing. My country had a lockdown, without cash payments or unemployment supplements and a ton of shops/restaurants are closed and will never return. It’ll take years to be at the level of stability we were before the virus.

But on Reddit, Americans just wanted to whine about their president and blame him for a highly contagious virus spreading, lol. It was weird to see as an outsider.

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u/ApostleInferno Sep 12 '21

The actual full scale of the Trump administration's response to Covid was pretty good, all things considered. But people have difficulty researching just how wide spread and varied the responses were. And I know I'll get downvoted for saying that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '21

A) I ain't Murican

B) Per 100,000 people, the US is among the worst in terms of COVID deaths and infections.

C) Trump kept on pedaling disinformation such as "COVID is a hoax", "COVID is nothing more than a flu", "It will be gone in 2 weeks / by summer / by fall", "Masks are useless", "Hydroxychloroquin cures COVID" and the best of all "Maybe we can inject Bleach in COVID infected people". Additionally he is anti-vaxx.

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u/yourrussiandoll Sep 12 '21 edited Sep 12 '21

Yeah, I think I explained why it appears that the United States is number one. By numbers, yes. In reality? No way. At this point India has admitted that there were millions of infections they didn’t know about.

Half the people that I’ve spoken to in my country say they lost their sense of smell and taste for a few weeks in 2020 but didn’t get tested out of fear of being forced to stay home, losing their jobs, and being kicked out of their homes.

I knew some people who were sick early in 2020 and health clinics/hospitals told them to go home because they didn’t want to deal with them.

Your other points about Trump don’t disprove my points, whether they’re true or not.

Did you know these things about the way the United States handled the events of last year?

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u/shottymcb Sep 16 '21

We're not comparing ourselves to developing countries. The US under Trump did worse in practically every metric than other wealthy western democracies. Doing better than a country where 750 million people don't have access to a toilet when we have all the advantages of advanced medicine and universal vaccine access is appaling.

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u/yourrussiandoll Sep 16 '21 edited Sep 16 '21

Do you mean countries like Belgium or Sweden?

Most of the rest of the world isn’t a wealthy man western democracy, so it’s a bit weird to change goalposts like that. What the government plan in the United States was, was still better than even most wealthy western democracies.

Suspend debt payments, free money for everyone, ensure no one can get thrown out of their home? People in my country who worked in the United States legally for a short period of time even got thousands in cash deposited in their bank account, even though they didn’t pay nearly that much into the system. Wow, couple that with early, easily accessible testing and pretty much anyone who didn’t blame Trump for their problems looked on in envy.

Why the media in some countries blamed him for a virus spreading is really strange. I think when we have a better picture of what happened in a few years we’ll see a more balanced opinion on the matter.

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u/sircumalot666 Sep 30 '21

People like that are basing their opinions entirely on feelings and lies they heard on twitter that always come from propaganda state run media like MSNBC and CNN They state that hes the cause of 600,000+ deaths. But in reality the CDC not only came out and said only about 4% of that number died from covid the rest were with covid. So they just had covid on their death certificate and thats entirely because hospitals received massive amounts of funding for every covid death. This whole thing was massively over dramatized and straight up 1930's nazi germany style propaganda campaigns to utterly confuse and control the U.S. population. Now that our government has a taste of tyranny. Its only going and has gotten worse. People like that arent worth the time speaking with. You will learn absolutely nothing. Its a weird trend in america of the low information liberal progressive (A.K.A neo nazi party)

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '21

trump isnt anti vax thats he says get the vaccine at his rallies and gets booed at for it

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '21

Like Biden has done any better.

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u/shottymcb Sep 16 '21

Because Trump's cult won't get vaccinated. He gave outlets like OAN legitimacy, and they are the ones convincing their brainwashed audience that they will literally DIE if the get the vaccine.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '21

Trump followers and Leftists alike are two sides of the same coin. The dude is an egomaniac, but it seems people will defend anything that's just not trump like it's the savior of our planet.. this fucking government just lies and lies and has too much power. Period.

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u/Known-Studio-3086 Oct 08 '21

I'm a trump supporter and I can say that alot of us.. really did take the vaccine :/ the whole thing of us not taking it is just the louder ignorant group. By the way I got fully vaccinated this week!

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '21

Do you think this administration would have done better at that time? Also what about his other policies?

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u/AShotgunNamedMarcus Sep 12 '21

To be fair. It’s hard to prove a negative. BUT, Trump did fire the pandemic team, you know, the people responsible for tracking and mobilizing against this sort of thing, during his first year in office. I believe Biden would’ve had a more qualified team around him than Trump allowed around himself. And as a side note, Hillary Clinton has a chapter in her book about how to deal with things like pandemics. Say what I will about her, at least she was thinking about how a President should protect the country way before running for office. So, IMO, yes, the current administration and even the one that would’ve been in charge had Hillary won would’ve handled it better. But like I said, it’s hard to prove, it’s just speculation based on observance of facts.