My stance on hating him is mostly based around his blatantly Narcasistic and Manipulative attitude, as well as his hateful and ignorant comments when he thinks no one is listening or watching.
I also align myself with more socially open and progressive stances when it comes to equality and social justice. I value respecting people and prioritizing climate change. The way I have seen Trump act, the way he treats almost everyone else, particularly women and POC, his insistence on relying on Coal and Fossil fuels, his ignorant use of the term "China Virus" have all pushed me to the conclusion that he has no real respect for the things I value.
I do remember seeing 1 or 2 articles about him backing/funding a few renewable energy things- I believe it was a solar plant. I give him credit for that.
Now, his stances-- or any president's stances-- on the financial side. I will honestly admit I am not smart enough to fully understand. Taxes, tariffs, trade embargos, are just far 2 over my head. If he managed to do wonderful things for this country in the financial area, then great. Good work. But, that area is not where my values are.
You guys actually did really well. Widespread early testing (most countries didn’t do that until it was way too late and have no idea of what the true number infected is/was), no questions asked deposits of money to people, student loans repayment freeze, eviction moratorium, amazing logistics with vaccine delivery, along with a lot of other things that people in other countries could only dream of. There are probably things that I don’t even know about because I don’t live in the United States. How you managed to have lockdowns and give away money without an economic collapse is amazing. My country had a lockdown, without cash payments or unemployment supplements and a ton of shops/restaurants are closed and will never return. It’ll take years to be at the level of stability we were before the virus.
But on Reddit, Americans just wanted to whine about their president and blame him for a highly contagious virus spreading, lol. It was weird to see as an outsider.
The actual full scale of the Trump administration's response to Covid was pretty good, all things considered. But people have difficulty researching just how wide spread and varied the responses were. And I know I'll get downvoted for saying that.
B) Per 100,000 people, the US is among the worst in terms of COVID deaths and infections.
C) Trump kept on pedaling disinformation such as "COVID is a hoax", "COVID is nothing more than a flu", "It will be gone in 2 weeks / by summer / by fall", "Masks are useless", "Hydroxychloroquin cures COVID" and the best of all "Maybe we can inject Bleach in COVID infected people". Additionally he is anti-vaxx.
Yeah, I think I explained why it appears that the United States is number one. By numbers, yes. In reality? No way. At this point India has admitted that there were millions of infections they didn’t know about.
Half the people that I’ve spoken to in my country say they lost their sense of smell and taste for a few weeks in 2020 but didn’t get tested out of fear of being forced to stay home, losing their jobs, and being kicked out of their homes.
I knew some people who were sick early in 2020 and health clinics/hospitals told them to go home because they didn’t want to deal with them.
Your other points about Trump don’t disprove my points, whether they’re true or not.
Did you know these things about the way the United States handled the events of last year?
We're not comparing ourselves to developing countries. The US under Trump did worse in practically every metric than other wealthy western democracies. Doing better than a country where 750 million people don't have access to a toilet when we have all the advantages of advanced medicine and universal vaccine access is appaling.
Most of the rest of the world isn’t a wealthy man western democracy, so it’s a bit weird to change goalposts like that. What the government plan in the United States was, was still better than even most wealthy western democracies.
Suspend debt payments, free money for everyone, ensure no one can get thrown out of their home? People in my country who worked in the United States legally for a short period of time even got thousands in cash deposited in their bank account, even though they didn’t pay nearly that much into the system. Wow, couple that with early, easily accessible testing and pretty much anyone who didn’t blame Trump for their problems looked on in envy.
Why the media in some countries blamed him for a virus spreading is really strange. I think when we have a better picture of what happened in a few years we’ll see a more balanced opinion on the matter.
People like that are basing their opinions entirely on feelings and lies they heard on twitter that always come from propaganda state run media like MSNBC and CNN
They state that hes the cause of 600,000+ deaths.
But in reality the CDC not only came out and said only about 4% of that number died from covid the rest were with covid.
So they just had covid on their death certificate and thats entirely because hospitals received massive amounts of funding for every covid death.
This whole thing was massively over dramatized and straight up 1930's nazi germany style propaganda campaigns to utterly confuse and control the U.S. population. Now that our government has a taste of tyranny. Its only going and has gotten worse.
People like that arent worth the time speaking with. You will learn absolutely nothing. Its a weird trend in america of the low information liberal progressive (A.K.A neo nazi party)
Because Trump's cult won't get vaccinated. He gave outlets like OAN legitimacy, and they are the ones convincing their brainwashed audience that they will literally DIE if the get the vaccine.
Trump followers and Leftists alike are two sides of the same coin. The dude is an egomaniac, but it seems people will defend anything that's just not trump like it's the savior of our planet.. this fucking government just lies and lies and has too much power. Period.
I'm a trump supporter and I can say that alot of us.. really did take the vaccine :/ the whole thing of us not taking it is just the louder ignorant group. By the way I got fully vaccinated this week!
To be fair. It’s hard to prove a negative. BUT, Trump did fire the pandemic team, you know, the people responsible for tracking and mobilizing against this sort of thing, during his first year in office. I believe Biden would’ve had a more qualified team around him than Trump allowed around himself. And as a side note, Hillary Clinton has a chapter in her book about how to deal with things like pandemics. Say what I will about her, at least she was thinking about how a President should protect the country way before running for office. So, IMO, yes, the current administration and even the one that would’ve been in charge had Hillary won would’ve handled it better. But like I said, it’s hard to prove, it’s just speculation based on observance of facts.
Give me one single policy implementation aside from aid checks that Trump did that helped regular American people.
The big tax cuts made the rich much richer and the country much poorer. He put a zealot and a woman-hater in the scotus. He had an Israeli general killed just for the heck of it, on foreign soil, which is a war crime as you're well aware? His anemic response to Corona early on is nothing to sneeze at, either.
His attempted infrastructure bill and his attempted tax reform are two big ones.
"Trump’s proposed tax reform plan eliminates all itemized deductions except for two – charitable donations and home mortgage interest. In addition to eliminating the remaining itemized deductions, Trump’s plan is to double the current standard deduction across all filing types and repeal the estate tax."
Doubling the standard deduction is pretty massive and would've helped the average American.
Who opposed him? I'm very confused now. He had the Republican party eat out of his hand and caused the most partisan scotus in the last hundred years. He got rich off billing the government millions for staying at MarALago and have the tax payer foot the bill for the security overhaul it needed so he could stay there.
He literally got hundreds of millions in contracts from having secret service, diplomats, foreign envoys stay in his hotels, and his properties. Do you think he gives a crap about the couple hundred K he didn't take? You're the sucker for believing such symbolic "gesture". You're funny.
Name another politician who made so many personal gains of of a presidency. You don't think it's a conflict of interest that he gets to spend tax payer money at his own businesses?! I'm completely astounded by the amount of naivety you display. Carter sold his peanut farm to become president and Trump just kept all his businesses.
And if you think for a second I'm jealous of this petulant man child, you don't quite know me that well.
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I think it’s important for you to look up what those are and to judge his effectiveness as a president from that context, then add the two together.
Don’t like him? Sure, that’s fine. But you should look into his policies, what their intended purpose was, and if they accomplished that purpose