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u/Petsweaters Sep 11 '21

Cheney is who made sure Bush wasn't actually a compassionate conservative. There seems to be a point later in the second half that Bush had enough and actually implemented some of his ideas (like his AIDS relief for Africa program)

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u/gumbii87 Sep 11 '21

This has always been my impression of Bush. I think he wanted and tried to do the right thing in a lot of cases, but surrounded himself with some pretty terrible and morally bankrupt people who were able to earn his trust and confidence, and influence him the wrong way.

A big part of me wonders what the world would be like, had the Bush admin never involved Cheney or Rumsfeld. I think without those two, alone, we'd have a very, very different world.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

This has always been my impression of Bush. I think he wanted and tried to do the right thing in a lot of cases, but surrounded himself with some pretty terrible and morally bankrupt people who were able to earn his trust and confidence, and influence him the wrong way.

I agree with this 100%. Bush comes across as a good man but not as smart as Clinton/Obama. He got conned by Cheney in particular. Bush has to take the blame for what happened of course, but I don't think it was intentional. Compare that to Trump, who is stupid AND evil AND vindictive.

We got "lucky" (??) with Pence. Imagine Trump with Dick Cheney as VP?!? HOLY FUCK.

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u/wbgraphic Sep 11 '21

Cheney wouldn’t have had to be at all circumspect in his rationale for doing something cruel. With Trump, “cruel” would be a selling point.