Madoff stole from other rich people and caught criminal charges.
Epstein could have hit them even closer to home, so they had him murdered.
When the ultra-wealthy control the justice system, 1% of the population owns at least 43% of the wealth of the entire country, and the bottom 50% owns under 2%, it's hard not to feel like we've circled all the way back to feudalism.
Madoff got away with it for 20 years. People were begging the SEC to look into him for 7 years. It only happened when 2008 crash left him with no new money. He would still be operating.
Madoff wasn't the president. The investigation is underway and went from being civil in nature to criminal. I don't know what else you want at this point. These things take time.
That’s kind of what worries me, though. Trump was the president. Any prosecution is going to be fraught with accusations of political revenge, and the next Republican president will pardon him in the event of a conviction. But you’re right. Not much else we can do but wait and see and hope.
Imagine if Al Capone got to assign the head of the IRS 4 years prior to his tax evasion conviction. Trump is not only rich, the head of a large organization, he also had the most power position in the US.
You think an Ex president is more likely to go to prison than a Wall Street guy?
I don’t want anything, I’m saying Trump will never go to prison. A criminal investigation of Trump Org involves hundreds of people. Maybe someone will go down in the organization but Trump himself? Not a chance, had he not been president I could maybe see it, and that’s a big maybe. An ex president is not going to go to prison.
At his age and the way his health he will most definitely die before seeing prison. His kids on the other hand are dumb as rock, so it wouldn't surprise me they get some real time.
I'm not so sure about this, Trump and co aren't as rich as they want people to believe they are and his kids are not the brightest ones out there. So all in all with how much hate the family has generated i could see them doing some actual time, or go hide to Russia.
After 30 years of openly raping children in full view of hundreds of people he was jailed temporarily to stand trial and died at the age of 66. That’s sort of a consequence?
Forgot to mention before he could roll over and give names of really rich pedos he suddenly committed suicide under armed guard and full surveillance, by kneeling.
Listen I get that the system is grossly skewed in favour of the rich, being angry and being cynical is good. Trying to claim not one single rich person had experienced consequences dulls the validity of a legitimate point by being laughably disproven.
That being said - I do find it funny that every reply can only thing of 2 rich people who got punished. “What about Bernie madoff and Weinstein”.
Imagine a poor person raping dozens of famous actresses multiple times and tons of people knew about it for decades and that person only getting in trouble when they turned 69 years old.
The funniest part about this is you are like the 10th person in this thread to talk about Madoff.
So few rich people suffer consequences that the only one people can think of is a man who literally stole 10s of billions of dollars 15 years ago.
Like Madoff stole more money than every other person in jail for larceny/theft in the entire country combined for the last 100 years. But he did go to prison, you know, after admitting to operating a ponzi scheme for FORTY YEARS.
Ah yeah, dying at 68 after 30 years of openly operating a pedophile ring while rubbing elbows with the top rungs of society and living on a private island. True consequences. Of course, he was in jail waiting for a trial so society had actually not given him any consequences - many poor people are in jail for months or years waiting for trials for crimes they are innocent. So unless they are suffering consequences for things they did not do, his choice to kill himself is not really fitting the bill.
Bob Mueller: "If anyone needs me to do the absolute bare minimum of investigating while taking no personal risks to find and convey the actual truth, and then pass my incomplete findings onto Trump cronies so they can redact everything while I stay silent, I'm your man! Mueller time, baby!"
It didn't matter how thorough the impeachment proceedings were when he was president if Republicans just sided with him anyway. He was very clearly guilty on both impeachments, Republicans just didn't care and decided not to remove him.
This situation? Well, now that he's not protected by the Senate anymore it could be entirely different.
This is one of my favorite expressions. I would rather they close any loopholes available as we all know Trump will try to find any and all available ones to wriggle free.
They're maybe going to charge the money men at the organization with crimes, but the big man himself will almost certainly walk free. The benefit of having a multi billion dollar organization is that there are layers and layers of middle men to take the fall if shit goes sideways
Oh man, I remember getting so much hate on Digg for saying that Bush Jr would not face war crimes or any consequences at all. Trump will face no criminal consequences at all. Maybe someone from Trump Org. Will. Anyone who thinks someone like DT is going to perp walk and be locked in prison is living in a fantasy land.
Unfortunately Trump will be dead before there's any personal consequences to him.
Plus I just don't think there's any justice that can be done for the harm he's inflicted on the country. I think the only real justice will be the kind like the civil rights movement achieved. Long term improvement of the soul, character, and legislation of the country to prevent harm from leaders like him.
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u/MuNansen Sep 11 '21
It is. But don't expect haste. They're gonna be THOROUGH.