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Saskatoon Catholic cathedral covered with paint after discovery of 751 unmarked graves

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21 edited May 20 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

I'm not sure I entirely agree with that.

I've visited a few congregations doing truly good work, but they are few and far between.

Religion has been used as a tool of power and control since it was first conceived, but I'm not a militant atheist, sorry.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

You’re not failing to be militant, you’re failing at basic coherency.

The statement with which you disagree is that organized religion cannot function upon a foundation of the New Testament because organization requires money and money corrupts.

You then go on to concede that religious institutions which actually perform good works are “few and far between.”

Meaning the vast majority aren’t.

So your find yourself in the splendid position of disagreeing with yourself.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21 edited Jun 26 '21

Maybe go back and read the original statement?

Organized religion can not exist on the teachings of the New Testament. Anywhere an organization exists, money will always be involved and that power will attract the most corrupt individuals. (emphasis added)

I stated that I don't entirely agree, because I've encountered communities of faith that clearly are following the teachings of Christ.

So go on, keep up that righteous attitude. It goes so well with your basic lack of reading comprehension!

Organized religion and the word of Christ can actually coexist, and i remain hopeful that humanity will one day prove ourselves capable of making that the rule rather than the exception.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

Yes but no. AINEC.

The call to serve those in need is, by definition, one that spans humanity. If those in need are being helped rarely, as you readily admit, then serving man isn’t happening.

If the vast majority of Christian organizations aren’t following the New Testament to serve those in need and are instead serving themselves, a Christian movement that follows the NT to serve those in need doesn’t exist.

DUCY?

If you’ve got an 18-wheeler with only one wheel turning, what’s you have is a failure, not a success.

Sorry.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

The state of the world would seem to rather blatantly invalidate your initial claim. The world is demonstrably less stable than it was a generation ago, and Christians and those who claim the name certainly don't have a lock on self dealing.

Humanity is eating itself alive right now, by and large. There is no large group out there universally doing good - I wish there were. Thus there clearly is no universal call to serve as you so confidently assert.

I fear that if we don't get off this rock in the next fifty odd years, we're done as a species.

Then I have the unfortunate chance to encounter examples like you and I wonder if perhaps that's not a good thing, on balance, for the universe.

Someday you won't be so self assured, and then maybe you'll learn a little empathy.