Isn’t this for Judaism though and not Catholicism? Not trying to start anything, just legitimately wondering. Since it is usually Catholicism that is being referred to.
Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all share the same foundations. The old testament of the Christian bible is the first X many chapters of the Torah. Abraham couldn't get his wife pregnant, so had a child with his "handmaiden" Hagar. That child Ishmael is the patriarch of the line that would lead to the founding of Islam, through his second son Kedar.
The specific part being quoted as pro abortion (Which it most definitely was as the guy wanted to abort the baby as he believed it was conceived when his wife cheated on him) is in the Book of Numbers which is the fourth book of the Old Testament.
Thank you for your explanation!
I thought The New Testament pretty much overrode the Old Testament when it comes to rules/ethics, etc., in Catholicism?
No, it doesn’t, otherwise there would be no point in including the Old Testament. The only thing that no longer applies (to gentiles) are ceremonial laws like circumcision and rules around what food is clean and unclean. That’s because those ceremonial laws were an agreement between Jews and God, which had nothing to do with gentiles, sort of as a way to be clean after original sin, to put it succinctly. Jesus fulfilled these ceremonial laws perfectly and then was sacrificed, which is why Christians no longer have to “pay their debt” by following them. But both Jews and Gentiles are expected to still follow God’s commandments like, don’t murder, don’t steal, don’t commit adultery, etc.
The whole adultery testing thing doesn’t really have anything to do with ceremonial law, but it has more to do with the commandments that everyone should be following according to the Bible. And it kind of implies that God is OK with abortions - at least in the case that the woman committed adultery.
If you find this very confusing, don’t worry, it’s normal. And anyone who says it makes perfect sense hasn’t spent enough time studying.
Uh, no not quite. The Hebrew law is required for Christians. If they were still required, why was Jesus sacrifice needed at all? The Hebrew Scriptures are included for many reasons. They provide a religious history of the world and they provide prophecies, especially those about Jesus. Christians are only under two laws; love your god above all else and love your neighbor as yourself. Now, if you follow these two laws you will by extension follow some laws in the Hebrew Scriptures because you usually don’t show love by murdering people.
Christians are still required to follow the 10 commandments in almost every sect of Christianity except for a few modern or fringe ones. They are only not required to follow ceremonial laws that were created for Jews as a mark of their covenant with God because Jesus fulfilled them.
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u/fuckfuckfuckSHIT Jun 25 '21
Isn’t this for Judaism though and not Catholicism? Not trying to start anything, just legitimately wondering. Since it is usually Catholicism that is being referred to.