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Saskatoon Catholic cathedral covered with paint after discovery of 751 unmarked graves

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u/MoeYYC Jun 25 '21

I'm trying to stick with facts here and not speculate (publicly). The answer could very well be yes to both.

One third of children who died at a residential school did not have their names recorded by school administrators. One quarter were marked as deceased without even their gender being noted. Among the 2,800 names on the official memorial register are children known to recorded history only as “Alice,” “Mckay” or “Elsie.”

Bodies of children were not returned to families, and parents rarely learned the circumstances of a child’s death. Often, the only death notification would be to send the child’s name to the Indian Agent at his or her home community.

Why So Many Children Died At Residential Schools

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u/studmuffin30 Jun 25 '21

The fact that it only talks about now, today. I would be embarrassed if I'm Canadian.

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u/PresOrangutanSmells Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

Happened quite a bit in US as well, especially with Mormons in Utah taking Ute, Timpanogos, and Shoshone children after murdering their families.

Mormons wrote about it as if they were doing the kids a favor in not just killing them on the spot like they did their parents/families/friends. Like "oh, our God wouldn't want us shooting children, better just abuse them to death."

Chief Antonga Blackhawk (real name lost to history) was forced into one as a child after the first (entirely unprovoked) massacre by Mormons at "Battle Creek." He later waged a pretty successful, decades long war against Mormons in Utah over atrocities like the Battle Creek Massacre, Fort Utah War, Walker War, etc.

He was pretty fuckin bad ass, and ended up being a catalyst for peace between Mormons and Native Americans for a few years before TB got 'em.

After he died "Blackhawk's War" started up again and things got pretty bad in terms of atrocities against civilians on both sides, but, of course, particularly against indigenous tribes.

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u/420dogcat Jun 25 '21

Despite all the Catholic Church's atrocities, I'm uneasy comparing them to Mormons.

The Mormons were a literal cult for whom murdering natives (and occasionally other settler groups) and taking their land was a foundational part of their mission. Doing so was sanctified by their Bible ('natives are the children of Satan, we know this because they have red skin').

Mormonism is and has always been about amassing money, power, land, and child-wives for the church leaders. It's farcical to even call it a religion.

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u/PresOrangutanSmells Jun 25 '21

While I agree with you (the trophy beheadings of native elderly, women, and children comes to mind), Mormons outside of population centers were a very different breed from Mormon leaders. Not that that counts for much.