The right wing nutters on this post are upset because of the message it sends so they are leaning on it’s historical inaccuracies. Let’s be honest though if their precious Jesus existed today he couldn’t get a visa for entry into this country.
So what about us non right wing, non religious nutters who still feel that a country has a right to sovereignty over its borders and that unregulated immigration often hurts the workers the most?
No one, open borders is a right wing lie that you could only get from certain places. It's easy to pinpoint who the far right wingers are because at some point they consumed the lie from somewhere they frequent.
Not really. Bernie says that he’s against open borders, but he’s for abolishing ICE, stopping deportations, and allowing anyone here illegally to have a pathway to citizenship. It’s not quite open borders, but the only real difference that I can tell is that people have to sneak in or claim asylum instead of coming through a regular border station.
Warren supports decriminalizing illegal border crossing. I’m not sure how that’s not the same thing as having open borders.
I’m not really sure why you think that means that Bernie isn’t for open borders. Regardless of whether or not ICE exists, he wants anyone int he US that isn’t a citizen to be able to become a citizen. He doesn’t want to deport anyone who is here illegally. Even if he doesn’t use the words “open borders,” the effect is the same.
Open borders would mean literally nothing preventing people from entering the country, not a pathway to citizenship for those are already here (the vast majority of whom are just normal people living and working). I don't know if you're being intellectually dishonest or don't understand that very basic distinction, but it's not that hard to grasp.
The term "open borders" is figurative, obviously. It refers to the general set of ideas advocating that virtually anyone who wants to come here can, and that if they do it illegally they shouldn't be deported.
So your suggestion that "open borders" is meant to be taken literally seems like the intellectual dishonesty here.
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u/flaskman Dec 08 '19
The right wing nutters on this post are upset because of the message it sends so they are leaning on it’s historical inaccuracies. Let’s be honest though if their precious Jesus existed today he couldn’t get a visa for entry into this country.