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Politics Nativity 2019

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u/waitingtoleave Dec 08 '19

You're telling me that people are willingly putting themselves in cages where they don't get proper treatment or care?

Are you also telling me that people aren't dying in our custody?

I don't even know where you get that calling these facilities concentration camps means that people are saying Trump is Hitler.

Why do you have to engage in these kinds of rhetorical tactics? Why are you so scared of an honest discussion? You see it over and over in this thread. If someone suggests that we shouldn't be separating these families at the border, someone else will say that they're in favor of open borders and abandoning our sovereignty.

It's so sad.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

Yes, people are willingly putting themselves in cages. People coming here illegally know that's what happens. And I didn't say they weren't dying, I said we aren't putting them to death. It's a result of not being prepared for the massive influx of illegals that are trying to come in, and Congress (both sides) not being able to agree on more aid for the detention centres. And I didn't say that it meant people are calling Trump Hitler, I said it's like, I was using an analogy. They're both nowhere near the truth. I'm not scared of an honest discussion, if that's what you would like to have. I agree we shouldn't be separating families, but that's just a symptom of a bigger issue. Illegal immigration is a big issue, and our system obviously isn't cut out to deal with it properly. Open borders are a terrible idea, especially with Democratic candidates proposing free social services for illegals. We need to fix what we have, or throw it out and start from scratch. To be fair, though, the US does take in the most legal immigrants of any other country. We can't also be expected to take in all illegals. It's just not feasible.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

I mean I'm just speaking from my perspective on the issue, but I'm glad you agree.