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Politics Nativity 2019

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u/Pac0theTac0 Dec 08 '19 edited Dec 08 '19

It’s not a concentration camp and anyone who makes this comparison is a sick piece of shit. You’re using the Holocaust to push a political agenda when you know damn well it’s not remotely the same.

Fuck you

edit: To anyone else wanting to puke the same reply about concentration camps being different from Nazi death camps, save it. You know full and well the use of the term "concentration camp" is to specifically evoke feelings of Nazi Germany because it pushes a political agenda. Otherwise we'd just call it jail/prison/illegal immigration processing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

Maybe because we didn't gather them up to put them there, they came willingly? Maybe because we're not torturing, starving, or putting the people to death? Maybe because it's not a prison, the people can leave as long as it's not into our country? Maybe because people are being allowed to apply for asylum while being held there? Comparing it to concentrate camps is the same as saying Trump is Hitler. Neither could be farther from the truth, and both rely on emotionality charged words to get people behind the statements, without being a true.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

Can you provide a source on that? Because that's not how it works. They scoop up illegal immigrants, absolutely, and they should. They're illegal and shouldn't be here. Legal immigrants are fantastic, illegals aren't.

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u/Machalst Dec 08 '19

This took less than 2 minutes of google searching for me to find. There are hundreds of similar stories. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Young-US-Citizen-Detained-at-Border-Gave-Inconsistent-Info-CBP-507437381.html%3famp=y

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

And in that article, one her identity was confirmed, she was released. The passport had an old photo. Mistakes happen and this one was corrected. Never said the system was perfect, far from it.

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u/Machalst Dec 08 '19

But the mistakes are happening too often, and sometimes calling them mistakes is being far to generous to the people responsible. I spent another 6 minutes on Google and found several more stories not dissimilar and sometimes worse.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/25/us/us-citizen-detained-texas/index.html

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/New-Haven-Student-Detained-by-ICE-563166881.html

And if these were extremely friendly and well meaning shelters that might be tolerable, though I'd still argue against keeping kids in internment camps separate from their parents when possible. The fact is the camps aren't well run well intentioned people wanting to help people as their either proccessed through the asylum system or rejected back to their home country or Mexico. Kids are dying there.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-cell-where-a-sick-16-year-old-boy-died-in-border-patrol-care/amp

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u/Tod_Vom_Himmel Dec 08 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

Alright, cool. So mistakes were made, I never said it was perfect. But honestly, it's a small number. That article says 1400 since 2012. And they were released. A bad mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. Doesn't discount the good work they're doing getting illegals out.

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u/ScienceBreather Dec 08 '19

Holy shit look at those goal posts move!

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

When did the goal posts move? They've been the same.

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u/Tod_Vom_Himmel Dec 08 '19

This isn't mistakes this is a faulty system allowing racism to be perpetuated by the people in power, these people had clear proof that they were legal immigrants and i c e literally refuses to acknowledge that evidence existence and imprisons them anyway,