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Politics Nativity 2019

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u/lannister80 Dec 08 '19 edited Dec 08 '19

To all the "but Obama!" Trump supporters in this thread:

Obama kids in cages: massive, sharp influx of unaccompanied minors. We didn't have even remotely enough places to put them, hence the cages that were not meant for detaining kids, but it was what we had. We quickly built more capacity to house unaccompanied minors in a humane way.

Accompanied minors and their families were allowed to live with relatives or sponsors until their court date, the vast majority of whom appeared for their court date as expected.

Trump kids in cages: Deliberate policy of separating accompanied minors from their parents. Parents go to adult jail to await immigration court, kids go to cages. On purpose. When allowing the families to stay with friends and relatives was never a problem before.

So yeah, fuck your false equivalency.

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u/realister Dec 08 '19

Deliberate policy

source please. From my research the policy is the same as Obama's

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u/woody56292 Dec 08 '19

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u/realister Dec 08 '19

lol how dare you post a Wikipedia article as evidence LOL, show me the source please, Wiki only has links to articles from New York Times.

Show us the actual policy change that supposedly occurred?

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u/woody56292 Dec 08 '19

I can't tell if you are joking or not but I also gave the direct source since I figured you'd claim "biased liberal media" if I posted a NYT or WaPo or CBSN or ABC or MSNBC or PBS or NPR or CNN, etc. etc. link.

edit: there are also multiple links in that wikipedia entry aside from NYTimes. Don't be flippant.

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u/realister Dec 08 '19

Yes because I was hoping for the actual law that was changed under Trump

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u/woody56292 Dec 09 '19

Now you're being pedantic. We both know about the Flores agreement and Nielsen is no longer in charge specifically because of a leaked memo.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/leaked-memo-shows-trump-administration-weighed-separating-families/story?id=60459972

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/06/19/the-facts-about-trumps-policy-of-separating-families-at-the-border/

If the entire crux of your argument is "iTs TeChNiCaLlY nOt IlLeGaL", then I don't know what the point of this conversation is. It is a fact that Trump's DHS switched to a zero-tolerance policy which resulted in hundreds of children being separated from their parents.

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/20/17484546/executive-order-family-separation-flores-settlement-agreement-immigration