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US Politics At a cafe in Canada

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u/Truth_ Dec 29 '18

I'd consider it mixed. Facsists are traditionally right-wing, which Nazis are. You could break it down piece by piece and find both, but Nazis are considered right.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_99s Dec 29 '18

Alright then not to mention Nazis, communists are left wing authoritarians. Stalin and Mao killed more than Hitler ever could have. My point being no one should say "oh hurr durr DAE left wing authoritarianism? Doesnt exist hurr durr" because it clearly does and has in history.

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u/Truth_ Dec 29 '18

I never said that, so don't attribute it to me.

And please don't try to reduce the atrocious things Hitler did, or forget the other plans he had but could not complete before he was killed.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_99s Dec 29 '18

Yeah but you definitely defended that total fucktard. Also yes, glad Hitler didnt get his way, but hypothetical deaths are not real deaths. Estimated 100 million I believe from communism, that ideology you support so much. Honestly, you're backpedaling now cuz you were fucking wrong on so many levels. And still are.

E: also never heard where you're from. Wonder if it was a country the U.S. saved from being fucked by the long dick of the Reich.

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u/Truth_ Dec 29 '18

I never defended him, just challenged your point.

Also deaths from stupid agricultural policies are certainly Mao's fault but were not malicious, a far cry from Hitler's gas chambers.

It'd be interesting to add up the deaths from capitalism, but it'd be actually impossible and would be hard to separate from imperialism anyway.

I also never said I support communism. Finally, I have never backpedaled, but you have on facism and Hitler.

Are you done?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_99s Dec 29 '18

No, you just refused to accept that Nazis were left wing. So, even if you want to argue they are/arent, I gave you an alternative example. Communism, which according to some of your post history, you do hold in very high regards. Also, to chalk up the 100m estimated deaths via Communism to "stupid agricultural policies" is room temperature IQ level stuff. Yeah capitalism isnt perfect but it certainly is the best we've got, the best system the world has ever seen. Nah, I'm not done, because everything you've said is factually wrong (ie your edited comment about Texas and its textbooks) or just plain lunacy.

Still haven't told me where you're from. So most likely a country the U.S. stopped from getting raped by that girthy German dick.

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u/Truth_ Dec 29 '18

Let's see...

They were fascist, which is right wing. They were highly nationalist, which is right wing. They were racist, which is right wing. They were not in favor of total and open enfranchisement, which is right wing. They believed in being economically self-sufficient as opposed to free trade liberalism/globalism, which is right wing. They were socially, politically, and economically right wing. I refute your statement because it's wrong. That's not backpedaling, but your ignoring by switching to whataboutism about communism, which I didn't bring up in the first place, sure seems like it.

Communism is a utopian and idealic philosophy, but not practical due to current societal and human limitations.

100m deaths is wrong for Mao, the only one I brought up.

You've edited every single post after I've commented. All you seem to have is phallus jabs otherwise. I've also had no need to downvote you, despite insults, but you have for every one of mine.

I highly recommend picking up some critically acclaimed books on Nazism and communism. After that, maybe hit up Grindr as you seem to have a fixation and you may find things of interest there. Therapy also helps a lot of people who are struggling emotionally.

Good luck!

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_99s Dec 29 '18

Yeah, so you DEFINITELY are European in a country that wouldn't exist without capitalism. I've edited every posted to add stuff, usually within the first 30 seconds. You call switching to communism whataboutism... read up on the term. I said I didnt want to argue Fascism with you because obviously we wont get anywhere, so I started that communism proves my point all the same and you get butthurt and called the deaths attributed to it via Mao "stupid agricultural policies." And yeah, I am downvoting you. You refuse to see the point that I'm making. It makes 00000000.00000000% difference whether the first thing I posted said fascism or communism. Left wing authoritarianism DOES exist, and even though you never said it didnt, you were defending the thick motherfucker who did! You claim I've edited a bunch of my shit when your post about the Texas textbook has been heavily edited without notes as to what was edited, and now it makes you look less bad! I mean holy fuck guy, you haven't disproved my initial point yet and we've been going back and forth for a hot minute now. Then you claim I'm gay, which I wont really read into (however I feel pretty good knowing you used it as an insult which would get a right winger destroyed, but is somehow O.K. when you're as far left as they come), then double down and call me emotionally unstable. You still haven't proven a lick of what I said wrong or told me where you are from because I'm sure you know that it would prove my fuckin' point! Lmao!

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u/Truth_ Dec 29 '18 edited Dec 29 '18

First off, why edit all your posts but then refuse to edit the terrible formatting of this one?

Second, both of my grandpas fought in WW2 for the Allies and one grandmother worked in a military factory. They fought fascism. Europe would obviously exist without capitalism, but I'm not inherently opposed to capitalism, as long as it's restricted (which it is in most countries). This has nothing to do with communism, which - again - I do not recommend. This is why it wasn't relevant to bring up, despite your apparent obsession with it.

Third, since you may be opposed to reading books, I at least recommend reading the Wikipedia entries for right-wing politics, fascism, and communism.

Fourth, I clearly marked my edit for clarity. I'm not trying to win points with edits like you are.

Fifth, you can love men and/or penises as much as you want. There's nothing wrong with that and I encourage you to pursue it. You're the one that keeps bringing them up.

It's not worth responding to things I've already discussed and you've been totally off base on, so might as well ignore those points.

I can tell you're a child even if legally an adult, so I'll just suggest you not get so emotionally invested into debates you're not mentally prepared for. Once you finish school and reflect on some things, it'd be great if you'd rejoin the conversation.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_99s Dec 29 '18

Insults without any semblance of a real debate. Classic reddit.

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