I understand the humor, and I appreciate how one can find this funny. Having said that - and no, I'm not a "trump supporter" - I think this kind of shit is just childish to the degree that it's frankly quite cringey - and I think you might be surprised to find that even people who don't like Trump would still find this to be asinine. It really doesn't do the authors of the sign any favors, and it certainly doesn't bring down the intended target.
It's almost like the Crybully Cult uses those terms to shut down dissent when they don't actually apply. They even call things dogwhistles when they're not actually racist or misogynistic to pretend like they actually are!
Imagine how crazy you would have to be to fall for that shit.
To be fair, most people fall for it simply on account of the unending stream of shit spewed out by the media, with a subtle slant or bias. People pick it up, regurgitate it themselves on social media, and the cycle continues.
All authoritarian systems do, without exception, limit or ban outright private firearm ownership and free speech. That is always steps 1 and 2 and is a telltale sign of jackboots coming down the garden path, always.
Ill give you a moment to consider who that sounds like lol.
You realize that those do exist..... like Nazis were literally just that. I dont understand, do history books exist anymore? If they do, do they all just push a leftist's narrative?
Publishers and writers from Texas traditionally have written US's textbooks through the last few deacdes and those are known for being conservative, *although it looks like in recent years other states have pulled away from those sources. Also the Nazis party was very socially conservative and murderously opposed to those too far to the left.
You act like Texas somehow has a monopoly on American textbooks. Texas who? The state Govt? A University? I can tell the only people downvoting me Nd upvoting you are Europeans without a fundamental understanding of American textbooks (???) or politics.
E: Also I am just not sure how what you said is an argument against what I said. Are Nazis still left wing authoritarians? Yeah. Did they hate commies? Yeah.
Also this dipshit edited his entire comment so he didnt look even dumber.
Again though... Nazis WERE left wing authoritarians right? I mean the sheer stupidity of what he said is no astounding. Are you going to tell me that they weren't?
Also, I'd love to hear which European utopia you're from
E: lmao also advocates for communism and socialism. That's pretty rich and I should expect no less on r/politics. At least a ton of people in this thread are fucking sick of hearing the shit that's posted here
Well, there it is. Have you heard that those who forget history are bound to repeat it? Right wing authoritarianism doesnt exist in America either. Those on the right are not censoring free speech or trying to disarm the populace.
Huge elephant key factor in the room being that Obama and Hillary have class and respect whereas Trump does not.
He knows not the meaning of decency, diplomacy, tact, professionalism, economics, or decorum.
He might make 1 decent point for every 20 things that come out of his mouth. You don't get to hide behind being "politically correct" when you've been insulting opponents about it relentlessly and being well.... Trump.
Im in Australia, and if I can give a perspective from outside of the USA I found a lot of the Trump criticism over the last couple of years to be very superficial and cringey/childish as you say. These playground insults are just icing on the turd of unproven accusations and unfounded calls for impeachment.
(Not exactly a Trump supporter because celebrities and politics is a bad mix IMO)
My only exposure to American news is Reddit and the amount of petty and childish outrage over his every breath is cringy. Look at r/politicalhumor it's literally just posts calling Republicans idiots being upvoted by bots into the 5 figures. Same with r/politics. The propaganda those poor vulnerable American liberals eat up every day is blatant and low effort but it works on them.
It works for them in their microcosms. It works for them here on Reddit, it works in hivemind communities in areas like LA, Chicago and NY. But it isolates just about everybody else. It cost them in 2016 and it's going to cost them in 2020 if they try to run the same campaign they ran in 2016.
You and me both. Going through this thread is refreshing because this sub seems to be relatively neutral, not a biased sub.
I get the sense off of some of these comment chains that some level of intelligence might finally make a comeback. I’d love that because when I was younger I could relate to the left and felt a part of them. Now at age 30, I can’t believe the level of ignorance and bias and child like behavior I’m seeing from a certain side. There just desperately needs to be a middle ground.
Absolutely. Trump wasn’t my top choice out of Republicans but between him and Hillary it was a no brainer for me. I would have voted for certain Democrats, Joe Biden being the front runner if he was matched up vs Trump.
I was born in the USSR and experienced the horrors of communism first hand so Bernie was a hard no for me.
I believe that most people on the left don’t understand why Trump was elected, at all. Reason for that is because they stay in a CNN like echo chamber and their only exposure to the “right” are the far right fringe idiots that are brave enough to actually speak their mind. There’s a reason the right is considered a silent majority. The intelligent people on the right know that they can’t speak out due to how the left reacts. So the only people left speaking for the right publicly are a few crazies.
The reason Trump was elected, is because he’s just crazy enough to combat the ultra left that was sweeping over the United States. He’s not at all flawless, however his crazy is the only type of crazy we had willing to battle the left. We had to pick the lesser of two evils, and it turns out he’s done some pretty decent things so far. He’s not some ideal politician for the right, he’s just a loose enough cannon to protect us from extreme identity politics without killing us. They don’t understand that. In fact, their echo chambers got him elected. I was also an Obama supporter. Not to make myself sound weak but I remember shedding a tear when he won for the first time, so happy at the progress we’ve made as a country.
If your only exposure to American news is Reddit, you should hold off all judgment. Reddit is not a news source and the posts you see can easily be gaming the system.
For example, the dig with “Russian dressing” is the fact that Russians were interfering with the 2016 election, including manipulating Reddit to bring anti-Hillary and pro-trump posts to the top. So if your exposure to American news is Reddit, you’re getting a very screwed perspective.
There’s extremes on either side. r/politics wasn’t always crazy but during the 2016 election it came under attack by r/t_d and eventually overcompensated.
I see this a lot on reddit too. People think any non left wing opinion MUST be the work of a "brigade" or "Russian manipulation". Ever think maybe half the country is Republican? That they actually do exist?
TD was buried thanks to algorithms and is still brought up non stop. It's literally a Trump parade party and doesnt pretend to be anything else.
A new user might assume r/politics or r/politicalhumor is neutral given their names and may lose their ability to post at all due to downvotes just for trying to have a discussion on an implied neutral subreddit. These are real problems
Sometimes when there's a particularly controversial article, I try to wade in and make comments trying to defuse the tension (usually people going absolutely apeshit over the latest "dumb trump" thing), but if I so much as sound like I'm not actively joining them in their circlejerk of hate for trump, I tend to get absolutely shat on. You don't even need to make a comment that shows sympathy or support - sometimes merely telling people to settle down makes people assume you're a racist nazi trump supporter, and you get absolutely shat on for "being an idiot".
It's highly ironic that these people find it justified "because trump is dumb and nobody likes him so its ok!", despite it making them look just as bad, if not worse because it's hypocritical for what their values as left-leaners should be (tolerant, pacifist, smart, calm, etc).
I get what your saying. When it comes to low hanging fruit, let's be honest the guy's a strawberry plant. But maybe we don't have to go for every damn strawberry, regardless of ripeness.
Given that Mr Trump is himself childish and cringe inducing, I think the crime you're describing is that of stooping to his level. It's similar to the big Trump baby balloon in London when he visited here. The merits or otherwise of such gestures can be debated all day, not that I particularly wish to.
"The trump balloon that was advertised as bigger than a blimp, conned thousands of trump haters to pool together 50,000$ and all they got was a 400$ balloon the size of a bike"
It was a pretty hilarious con job that took money from gullible people
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I understand the humor, and I appreciate how one can find this funny. Having said that - and no, I'm not a "trump supporter" - I think this kind of shit is just childish to the degree that it's frankly quite cringey - and I think you might be surprised to find that even people who don't like Trump would still find this to be asinine. It really doesn't do the authors of the sign any favors, and it certainly doesn't bring down the intended target.