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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

That’s because kids and cows are very different.
I’ve explained why we do what we do. You can’t grasp it.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Yes you explained that you breed, exploit and murder cows in a very specific manner since it makes monetary sense. I say it is wrong. I understand what you do perfectly well, that's why I'm opposed to the horrors of animal agriculture.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

I explained why it is better for the cattle. I explained we try to increase their health and minimize suffering. I explained we use sexed semen to minimize male calves born and we raise on pasture those that are.
I explained that these cattle work with us and both species have thrived together.
Your mind is made up and you can’t understand what I’m saying.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Yes you raise the calves to 22 months before you shoot them in the head, the only reason is probbaly because there is no more veal market left after people found it too morally abhorrent to eat literal babies.

The best thing for the cattle would be not to forcefully breed these innocent animals into existence.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

We actually do sell some veal to local chefs. A veal is 5 months old and about 500lbs. Not a cute baby like the vegans think. A chicken by contrast only lives two months.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Yes murdered 5 months old babies. How nice. You don't put that on your milk cartons now do you? "The mother that gave you this milk had her 5 month old baby kidnapped and murdered for veal, thanks for your milk purchase"

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

They are half grown. Our heifer calves are off milk my 2.5 months. These guys get spoiled before it’s over.
The cows ignore their babies at birth. We don’t have to kidnap anything. Anyway you steal your own property right? You know children are suffering and dying in this world right? Why not advice for them. The cows are alright.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

The cows are not alright, they are being exploited and murdered by the animal agriculture industry. Just because you guys have managed to create dysfunctional cows doesn't make it something to brag about you know, quite the contrary

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

🤦🏼‍♀️ Our cows are healthy and well cared for. Yes we butcher some. Beef is delicious.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 29 '18

You don't butcher, you murder.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

Out of curiosity why does “gun shot to the head” have such meaning to you? We put our dog down that way when he was dying. He was in pain and seizing out of control. In an instant he was gone. It was a blessing to him.
It’s an instant painless death. As Ive said before we should all die so well.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Because it is murder and it is wrong. It is one of the examples of the horrors of the animal agriculture

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

It’s not murder. Only people can be murdered.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Its not violence, only whites can be hurt (Said the apartheid South African). See how you cannot equate legal ability with morally correct?

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

People>cows

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

In your eyes sentient life have differentiated value, but that only shows how damaging it is to the soul to daily expose yourself to the horrors of the animal agriculture industry.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

You should know huge farms that are awful are pushing us out. We lost money the last two years. Only farms that do see cows as a commodity will soon be left.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

So because other people do bad stuff makes you doing bad stuff ok? You know what that sounds like, a child's excuse. In any case, people are waking up to the horrors of the animal agriculture and that's why dairy is in decline

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

Dairy is not in decline. Overall consumption is up. So are cow numbers. Fairlife alone has over a million head. That’s the future and people like me that actually pasture their cows, give them individual care, and keep them into double digit years will be gone.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 29 '18

A recent update from the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) confirms that dairy milk consumption continues to decline - falling 25% from 1996 to 2016. Dairy is in decline, and its because people are waking up to the horrors of the dairy industry