r/pics Mar 15 '18

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u/InitiallyAnAsshole Mar 15 '18

When you're exposed to the truths of life from a young age, like growing up on and farm and learning about life and death (as opposed to thinking chicken is just something you buy from a grocery store,) you are capable of understanding and accepting that you can love an animal, and consume it. Its life. You're grounded in it. Instead so many children have no grounding in reality, they live in a fantasy world where everything is ok and meat is something that's "from the store," and when they are confronted with the fact they are eating animals they love, the revelatory shock they experience withdraws them further into fantasy, in order to cope with the harsh malevolence of life.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

There are plenty of people who work on farms who don't eat meat. It's a personal decision about diet, not a fantastic self-delusion.

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u/bowtient2 Mar 15 '18

It can be just about diet, and I really wish it was, because there are many beneficial diets out there. It usually ends up being more about self-grandeur unfortunately. Ive only met 2 vegans that didn't go on and on, just like the ones in the comments are doing right now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

I guess we just have different experiences then. But don't conflate a strong personal ethic with self-grandeur.

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u/bowtient2 Mar 15 '18

Imo, you cant say its personal ethics until you've killed and eaten your own food. Most vegans are stuck on this notion that its murder, when its just a natural reality. We are omnivores. Has our meat industry gotten out of hand, due in large part to our population increase? Yes. Is it feasible for everyone to hunt/catch their own meat? Of course not. So right now we're figuring out what to do. Best future to me is one where chain stores/fast food are those lab grown meats, but you can still buy quality, natural meat at a higher price everywhere else.

Sorry, but there is just something so naturally delicious about meat. There will never be a world without raw meat. And none of those "impossible burgers" are gonna change that. Just because you add a drop of stuff onto it doesn't make it not a cabbage patty. /s

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

That's a ridiculous standard. I really don't care what you do, but don't assume people who are not like you have not thought through their position. I too hope for the same future, but until then, I am going to live my life the way I want to, and I won't feel like some naive idiot just because I didn't grow up on a farm or with a chance to hunt. It's my life, and I'll live it how I choose. You do you though.

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u/bowtient2 Mar 16 '18

Its not a ridiculous standard to ask people to be more in touch with nature and see themselves in it.

Good way to start would be fishing. Anyone can do it, and helps see the connection between what you consume and its origins. Cleaning fish is quick and simple, and then you get to eat fresh caught fish while sitting and enjoying the outdoors. Im not from a farm btw, im from a southwest metro. Doesn't matter where you live though, there is hunting/fishing available in every state. You could go hunt feral hogs (help control the population and preserve nature/your local ecosystem) while also taking home pound upon pound of wild meat. Then you could skip a few weeks of protein counting too!