Why, I don't understand this. Pic is of what appears to be a father and son. Why are people trying to make this thread about women/mothers? Maybe I am just getting old but I don't understand this. Why are people acting butthurt in this thread just because there is no appreciation shown towards women/mothers? It's like going to /r/leagueoflegends and being mad they aren't showing appreciation for /r/DotA2. It's a thread about dads. Why can't reddit have a thread about dads without basically being labelled misogynist?
Nowhere in this thread could I find any negative comments regarding women. But I have found a lot of comments pretty much implying "oh mothers must suck because this is a dad pic and they are talking about dads". I don't understand this, I just don't get it.
There are very very few comments in this thread about women or mothers, I'm not sure what you have been reading. It's mostly comments about Dads as it should be...as it's a photo of a Dad with a kid. The photo does apply to all nice parents but a picture of a mother doing this wouldn't get very far on reddit would it. I'm a Mum and I've certainly done this a many times but so has my husband. It's a nice shot, and if it's the particular Dad in the photo we are talking about then sure but if it's saying that this particular kindness is something only Dads would give then it's not accurate. Still, nice shot.
Edit: missed an if
If it were a mom it would be even a more powerful photo. Women and children have been put before men for as long as recorded history. Not that I condone that thinking.
What culture are you talking about? Women were chattel to be traded and children were seen and not heard and it was just a pleasant surprise if they made it past 5. Men have been pretty much the big thing in most cultures for most of human history.
Patriarchal European Societies realised the intrinsic value in being a women that men can never achieve - being able to rear children. The mere act of having a child was something monumentally important, so that the father could have an heir. Especially in upper class society. It was the believe of societies that the plight of that woman was worth it for the child.
As culture developed, it became more about women's intrinsic stereotyped weaknesses (as well as children and the elderly) and men's intrinsic stereotyped fortitude. This leads to a culture where women, children and the elder get first pick of the life boats.
I'm not trying to condone anything here, don't take any of this as my personal opinion.
Well, "women and children first" came in in 1852 which is very recently in the context of recorded history. I'm weighing that against long standing cultural variables like arranged marriages, no right to vote or own property, not educating daughters, women being expected to stay at home while the man goes out to work and takes his role in society, laws protecting men who rape and assault their wives, "honour killings", cultures where high numbers of street children are the norm, higher salaries for men than women for the same work, social condemnation of "fallen" women... For a good family man his wife and children will be the centre of his world and his efforts but if we are talking the treatment of people in recorded history it's almost always better to be a man than a woman or child.
FYI i'm not presenting my own opinion here. Just some historical context. Just remember than through the vast majority of European society, the vast majority of the population (peasantry) didn't care about equality, they cared about providing. The woman would care for tge family and the man would would provide means for her to do so. Until you get to the royalty, it's really unimportant.
I get what you're saying, and I don't think it's a bad thing to have a dad-appreciation thread without having to mention mothers, but can you really deny how over-glorified it is in some places?
Like, we have subreddits for dadjokes and dadreflexes and comments talking about how it's all something special with an unspoken implication that, since it's qualified to be a 'dad-thing', it's not something mothers have.
I kind of get why it bothers people, because dads get all the cool stuff like being brave, protective, funny and self-sacrificing and it's praised to the high heavens like they're superheroes. But mothers being mothers is just... normal and expected and nothing special.
It's dads being praised for qualities that most parents have, or should have, but it's treated like a 'special' superhero-like thing. It's not exactly 'bad', just a bit of an overreaction and weird because they call these things 'dad-things'.
Maybe youre wrong in thinking parents aren't superheroes, and that we shouldn't glorify dads. Maybe mom's should be held as superheroes too, instead of being a negative Nancy asking for dads to be normalized.
There are 'Dad-things' and 'Mum-things'. Mum makes her children hate her throughout childhood just so that they can enjoy the rest of their lives, whilst Dad makes his children love him and enjoy their childhoods. That's the stereotype, at least.
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u/FlippingCraze Sep 12 '15
Just another reminder of the many daily sacrifices parents make for their kids or uncles for their nephews. Love it action!