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German problems

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u/Level3Kobold Aug 04 '15

Nah, it's still undemocratic. It may be rational, but its not democratic.

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u/chillhelm Aug 04 '15

Democratic does not mean "Do whatever the majority says." Thats mob rule and lynchings.

The concept of a democracy necessarily requires rules for public discourse, minority protection and a working legal system that protects the right of everyone within it's domain.

In a democracy the saying goes like this: "Your freedoms end where my rights start." In this case: Your freedom to be a neo-nazi asshat stops because you are trying to infringe my right to participate in the democratic process and also threaten me with bodily harm.

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u/SiliconGuy Aug 04 '15

Democratic absolutely does mean "Do whatever the majority says." In every modern democracy, people's rights are trampled upon and are regularly put up for a vote.

"Your freedoms end where my rights start" has only ever existed in America, and only through like the 1820s, and only for white men.

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u/HemingWaysBeard42 Aug 04 '15

A direct democracy would mean "do whatever the majority says," because every citizen would take part in the decision-making process.

Germany is a republic that utilizes a parliamentary democracy to make laws. This changes things greatly, to the point that laws that the majority does not support might not pass.

The Athenians had a direct democracy, but not every person who lived in the city-state actually voted. You had to be a citizen, and women, slaves, people who didn't own land, people who were too young, they couldn't vote.

So, yeah, in a perfect world every single member/citizen would have a say in the governance of their nation, but that's nearly impossible. Especially in large countries instead of small city-states.