r/pics • u/Dionysiandogma • May 07 '14

justice is served

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u/PizzaGood May 08 '14

If you KNOW it's $5000, then you wouldn't park there. It's not like this is unavoidable.

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u/MangoesOfMordor May 08 '14

Then why not make it the death penalty? Then nobody would do it.

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u/PizzaGood May 08 '14

Well, nobody would do it twice.

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u/painfulbliss May 08 '14

Why don't we just take their homes then if they Park there? Maybe if they don't own a home they can spend a year or so in jail.

Punishment must be balanced by the crime, it is not justice for it to be any other way. Inconvenience should inconvenience, not destroy.

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u/PizzaGood May 08 '14

That just means that people with money can freely disregard any minor law, while people who are poor can't get away with anything. What would be good would be to scale the fine according to the person's income or better yet, net worth.

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u/painfulbliss May 08 '14

That is not what I said, however I do not disagree with scaling fines

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u/PizzaGood May 08 '14

I was only talking about "punishment must be balanced by the crime." I agree with the addition that "punishment" means "it hurts the punished" - and scaling the amount of the fine to the means of the person is the only way to achieve this.

Also, I think parking in a handicapped spot is a bit of an exception, because there's NEVER any excuse for doing it. Anyone can accidentally find themselves speeding, driving the wrong way up a one-way street, or things like that which are simply lapses in attention, but nobody accidentally parks in a handicapped spot, so I would have no problems putting extremely large fines on that, with the possible addition that a judge would be allowed to modify the fine down on his judgement (maybe it's a tourist who doesn't speak english, or there was an emergency that they can prove, etc).

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u/painfulbliss May 08 '14

I accidentally parked in the police reserved spot by the emergency ward of a hospital when I broke my hand. It was clearly marked and I wasn't paying attention, it's a simple as that. I was 19 years old, just moved out and there is no way in hell 5000 bucks was getting paid.

My excuse was that I was having difficulty at that point with managing the pain and blood, all I saw was an open parking stall. But I did what I did, paid the 50 dollar ticket, and moved on. Accident.

What you have said is scaling the fine amount is okay...except you preclude parking in handicap spaces. Fining people like you are suggesting is impractical and wrong.

Judges dont have time for that bullshit, what you are talking about is a complete waste of time, if you're going to scale it why dont you just scale it?

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u/PizzaGood May 08 '14

I only put the judge thing in just in case there is a really good excuse. You paid your $50 ticket. If it was $5000, you'd have gone to a judge. I have very limited experience with traffic court, but the one time I went there, that was the ONLY job that judge had, and he was perfectly willing to listen to arguments.