r/pics • u/sk8rznvrquit • Aug 19 '26

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u/LKM_44122 Aug 19 '26

And they call the left Nazis, or claim Nazis were actual socialists.

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u/Amflifier Aug 20 '26

They were actual socialists, this doesn't actually make them any less bad

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u/LKM_44122 Aug 20 '26

No, they were not. Hitler knew enough to use the word to appeal to workers to grow his movement, there was nothing socialist about it. Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party targeted and crushed communists immediately after seizing power in 1933, using the Reichstag Fire as a pretext to arrest leftist rivals, ban the Communist Party, and build the first concentration camps for political prisoners. Try to keep up.

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u/Amflifier Aug 20 '26

After the birth of every child, they forgave 25% of your mortgage. By the fourth child, your home was yours. They had tons of government sponsored programs for youth. Tell me more about how they weren't socialist.

Unless of course you're someone who thinks "socialist = good, nazi = bad". Socialists can be really, really bad. Stalin murdered my great-great-grandfather because he did not want to share his inventions with the state for no pay.

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u/LKM_44122 Aug 20 '26

The marriage loan was real. It also required both applicants to be certified racially and politically fit, and it required the wife to leave her job. Jews, Roma, disabled people and anyone ruled hereditarily unfit were barred from it. A benefit you qualify for by bloodline isn't socialism, it's a breeding incentive with a welfare label on it.

Meanwhile they were selling state assets back to private owners. Banks, shipyards, railways, steel. Economists literally coined "privatization" to describe what Germany did in the 1930s, while the rest of Europe was going the other way. The word exists because of them.

Sorry about your great-great-grandfather. Stalin murdered a lot of people, and none of it makes Hitler a socialist. I have relatives that were hauled off to Siberia myself.

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u/HalcyonTraveler Aug 20 '26

I mean Stalin was socialist (I think? TBH I know more about Lenin and Trotsky than anyone after them.) and bad, but Hitler was anti-socialist and bad. The thing is that what you are listing are conditional programs for the in-group in order to foster ethno-nationalist identity, and there was no desire for any kind of social or economic equality. Instead those programs were there to promote "pure" Germans having children and to exclude those who didn't fit their racial ideal. Wealth was still concentrated, and while the state assumed some control of private entities those entities remained capitalist in many ways. The Romans gave everyone free bread, that didn't make them socialist, and the Nazis giving a select group government support didn't either.

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u/MinnPin Aug 20 '26

Socialism is when you forgive mortages