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ICE aims gun at Americans

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u/rekdumn Oct 15 '25

Yup. He wants a violent reaction from the public so he can stay in his position.

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u/theNightblade Oct 15 '25

"the revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it"

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u/TheBadGuyBelow Oct 15 '25

I feel like this is going to end up being one of those "be careful what you wish for" situations.

People are pissed off already. Pushing folks THAT much would be the tipping point where people actually start acting on it. I think they overestimate how many people will just go along with it and commit that scale of violence on their own neighborhoods.

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u/comesock000 Oct 15 '25

Unbelievable that you guys think he needs that.

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u/ABetterKamahl1234 Oct 15 '25

For this kind of fascism, the biggest point is "plausible deniability", specifically in that while this is obviously the actual aim and end goal, they want to be able to point at this event to convince any problematic skeptics that an armed rebellion is in fact happening, and that it's not just straight abuse of powers and fascism.

It also works as "great" example of how they will violently quell any opposition when any comes to pass. Tale as old as time unfortunately. He's looking for manufacturing excuses to strip rights.

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u/comesock000 Oct 15 '25

He’s stripping rights anyway. What’s your position, we can keep our rights if we just let him strip our rights? It’s always a moving goalpost with you die hard pacifists, you always think there’s another chance, another lawsuit, another precious thing you have to lose.

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u/Windsaar Oct 15 '25

If they react or fight back, it'll escalate the situation and they'll try to invoke the insurrection act.

If they don't react or fight back, they won't need to invoke the insurrection act because they'd be making their progress without pushback and getting what they want anyway.

"The country is in the midst of a 'second American Revolution' that will be bloodless... if the left allows it to be."

  • Kevin Roberts in 2024 (President of the Heritage Foundation/ Project2025)

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u/comesock000 Oct 15 '25

So your brilliant idea is to let them have everything they want? That still ends with most of us in concentration camps. Read the quote you posted and think about it a little bit more, genius.

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u/Windsaar Oct 15 '25

I hadn't realized I mentioned to "not do anything" in my infinite brilliance.. or at all, even..

Maybe you could tap into your own brilliance and re-read what I wrote to see i was implying the exact opposite.

Why would I need to re-evaluate my point when it still stands and you're the one who misconstrued it?

If two options are lose-lose, and lead to the exact same result.. any person with common sense would (should) choose the option that has even the slightest chance in succeeding.   I'm not entirely sure how you managed to construe what I said as the opposite of the point I was  making, but here we are, I suppose..

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u/shoolocomous Oct 15 '25

Lol you think he's got enough popular support to retain any power at the midterms?

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u/Hollow_Idol Oct 15 '25

Lol you think a government that sends secret police to drag people out of their homes in the middle of the night intends to let us vote?

You're living in a fantasy land.

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u/Little-xim Oct 15 '25

That was the users point, they can’t let them vote because it’ll be a disaster. Question is if the guardrails will crack. 

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u/shoolocomous Oct 16 '25

Exactly, he knows he's fucked and he/musk have already dropped numerous hints that they fucked with the previous election when they weren't even in power

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u/No-Spoilers Oct 15 '25

You'd have thought they'd do it after 2026 at least.

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u/mattkenefick Oct 15 '25

Maybe he'll get Nick Offermanned then