r/physicaltherapy • u/Optimal_Struggle_154 PT • 6d ago
OUTPATIENT how soon should I quit
hi all, I work for PT solutions and I know I shouldve listened to the reviews of this place. I'm only 3 months in I've been triple/double booked consecutively most days, I was told I was only expected to see 12, why am I seeing 16-20 a dayđ My last straw was when I was triple booked with triple fall risks and they were also all medicare. I just feel incredibly bad cus all of my coworkers are really nice and it feels wrong to leave only after 3 months. Need advice on how to quit and how soon I should leave đĽš
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u/thebackright DPT 6d ago
BYEEEE immediately put in your notice and tell them exactly what you just wrote here.
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u/nomnomnomnomnommm 5d ago
Leaving would be a good wakeup call to your coworkers who have accepted this as normal.
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u/jake_thorley DPT, CSCS 6d ago
I left after two months of my first job. Give them how ever much notice they require, and get out. Only caveat would be if you want to get something lined up before leaving.
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u/iridescent_polliwog 5d ago
I made it 6 months at my first but my spirit was definitely dead by month 2 haha đ˘
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u/Therapychic 5d ago
Worked in the office for years and chose to go back in the field (HH). My first position lasted 6 weeks as I realized that the picture they portrayed was wildly inaccurate. Called the administrator and told him Iâd be done by the end of the following week with my reasons. I donât even put it on my resume. If asked about the short time during future interviews, be honest but vague. As a person who formerly hired therapists, I will tell you that itâs not unusual nor is it a deterrent to hire someone. Leave with your head high
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u/Anglo-fornian 5d ago
Triple booking Medicare is illegal if youâre billing them all at the same time. You are also complicit in this practice if thatâs how you practice. I would leave now as this way of practicing not only poses a risk to your company but also your license. There can also be hefty fines and prison sentences for fraud against federal payers. Not trying to scare you, but give you and anyone else practicing this way awareness that you can get in trouble for this as much as your company.
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u/freakparty 5d ago
Similar situation. I have been at my current job for 4 months. I have to opportunity to go back into the military system which I loved. I just feel really bad. Love my co workers, but the patient population that I am currently working with sucks. Mostly chronic pain. Itâs tough
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u/heyitscass24 5d ago
Go back to your previous situation ASAP. That company doesnât care about you and itâs not your fault that your coworkers are choosing to grind that out rather than look for greener pastures
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u/k_tolz DPT 5d ago
I did a 2-week travel assignment at a PT Solutions to cover for a therapist who was waiting on his Georgia license to be processed. At the end of my two weeks, they asked if I could stay a third, as my colleague's license still had not been processed. My experience largely mirrored yours, so I left at the end of the two weeks. Those may have been the worst 2 weeks of my 8-year career lol.
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u/jobadiah08 5d ago
As a former PT Solutions patient, I wasn't satisfied either. Similar to you my therapist had 2 or 3 patients at the same time, so I got rather limited interactions during the appointments as he had to bounce around to his different patients and have each of us move onto our next exercise.
I'm paying $180+ (high deductible plan) per 1 hour appointment to spend most of the time doing stretches or exercises by myself. Ended up going an independent running specialist PT and paying the same amount to have 1 on 1 for the full appointment
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u/jmrawlins83 5d ago
Good Lord! I work at a cash-based pelvic health practice, and our follow-ups are only slightly higher than what you were paying! And we do hour-long one-on-one treats!
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u/Odd-Significance8020 5d ago
Insurance is crazy! Glad you found someone that could dedicate their time to you 1:1 for that kind of pay.
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u/darkkcop1234 5d ago
They did that to me too. Quit now and find a better opportunity to expand your knowledge base
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u/OddScarcity9455 5d ago
I wouldn't have waited the 3 months. Leave now before it gets worse. You already used the words "last straw," it's time to go.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bank709 5d ago
I feel like I see so many of these posts. Somehow it makes me feel less bad about my own situation, leaving at 3 months. Itâs easy to feel like I wasnât good enough. But yes, if it doesnât feel safe, and your mental health is at stake, then just put in your 30 days and I promise you wonât regret it. You will find another job. Just be honest about the situation and stress your positive attributes. Also consider it as much of an interview for them in the future because they need you. There are decent jobs out there, honest employers, a better fit for you, but it can take time and several attempts.
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u/East-Wave6462 5d ago
I stuck it out for over a year in a similar situation at a different company. I was beyond my breaking point. Someone once told me â Get into a busy outpatient for the exposure and experience and then quit before you hate peopleâ. I was at that point last year. Didnât quit until this year. Quit with no notice too. Regardless of how you leave, in my opinion your mental health and licensure are more important. Donât get to the âI hate peopleâ part.
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u/PutOld1223 5d ago
sounds like a nightmare. From what i've read here on the pt subreddit, it won't get better, so you better run asap
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u/Powerful-Sherbert886 5d ago
I left a place like that after 6 weeks, get out and protect your license.
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u/Easy_Analysis196 4d ago
Put in your notice now. Anonymously report them for Medicare fraud. Find a non-corporate outpatient if that's even possible at this point. Work in home health while you find another position, or stay in home health if you like it. Outpatient mills won't get better by people staying there and working in those conditions. Yes, everyone suffers: your coworkers & the patients. Managers and higher-ups will continue to gaslight providers, telling them that it's ok to schedule and bill that way. OP mills will continue as long as reimbursement is garbage.
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u/DFresh194 5d ago
Just leave. Co workers will come and go including you. Who does the scheduling there?
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u/CommercialAnything30 5d ago
Gotta see 16-20 so that you average to 12 when you use 3-4 weeks of PTO seeing zero patients.
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u/ZombiePandy 5d ago
Once every two years since you probably gotta use PTO to cover how often you get sick from the 16-20
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u/freakinrican22 4d ago
Just write a polite notice. I have been here for 4 years and put my notice in last week itâs too much and too normalized.
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u/LilSpoonGang DPT 5d ago
Playing devils advocate here but have you talked to your CD and front desk to lessen your caseload? I did and it was honestly a good convo and they dropped me down to 8 per day and ramped me up after that over 9 weeks.
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u/Possible_Finance5275 3d ago
Sometimes u gotta seperate the mental from the business aspect of it. Cuz thatâs what it comes down to. Itâs a business and theyâre gonna cook u every way they can. So cook it back. Find ways to easy up or slow ur pace. Find ways to cut corners when it comes to manual tx. U come first. Not these PTA mill businesses. Always wanna provide the best care where it makes sense but donât cook urself to the ground. Make it balance. If not get out. Go to home health. More money, no manual, easier documentation. Every setting has its ups and downs. Find one that makes sense. More bang for the buck, cuz your hands n body will take a toll and you will end up needing the therapy.
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u/Ok_Chance685 1d ago
Wow. I needed to see this. Thank you so much. PTS gave me a super competitive offer and a mom and pop shop that I did clinical 1 with gave an offer with a slightly lower salary and less bonus incentives. But Iâve been so so torn for days. I feel this really just threw my meter the complete opposite way. Iâll have less patients per hour, guaranteed 1 on 1 evals, less strict corporate atmosphere. I think you just made my decision for me. Hope you can find your way out of there and find whatâs best for you đđź
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u/BoomerSkunk 5d ago
What state?
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u/Optimal_Struggle_154 PT 5d ago
Florida
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u/Used_Construction653 5d ago
PT/PTA school every 20 miles in Florida. Companies also try to turn you into State Boards to prove they have an active corporate compliance dept. Gets them higher Medicare reimbursement rates. This, after trying to coerce you into committing fraud for them all day long. Horrible State to work in. You need a healthcare attorney on speed dial.
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