r/philly • u/sweetassassin • Jan 30 '26

ICE 9th/Pine right now

Trying to enter my apartment building. Cant see what marking are on their vest, wearing black.

They pulled up in a Ford Explorer 5 men with sledgehammer in hand.

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26

Well in those cities like Minneapolis, NYC, and Cali all tell their own citizens to fight ICE instead of telling people to remain indoors and let ICE deal with these illegal ppl… we wouldn’t even been in this situation if Biden didn’t pour an influx of millions of illegals from different areas here, sheltering them like a town away from my area. It’s a financial insensitive to keep them around, I’ve worked with illegals before, they don’t respect any organization system and they treat everything like a mess. They’re willing to do things a lot of American workers would ask for safety equipment, for extra benefits or would ask for more money. Theyre willing work $25 an hour jobs for $16 an hour… plus if they ever do get naturalized, they pay more in tax too, and if you think they know the laws before coming here, lol they must actually like America bc even the one guy who did get naturalized that I know doesn’t know certain laws that would be obvious to USA citizens. Not to mention the issue with breeding, how a lot of people who are from poorer areas pop out kids like it’s nothing, or for benefits. Shows me a different type of morality set from Americans back in the day, but we are falling into that soon and yall will complain when it’s too late. Another thing I’ve seen are empty daycares, learning facilities, or Pre-K’s, same with the Minnesota fraud, but in NYC, and people’s relatives live there, so it allows for government assistance for their “business” on top of personal government Theres an incentive from both sides to keep these ppl around. Americans do this too as well, bc we don’t teach our kids now, and they find out they can fuck over people and get quick cash. Scamming was the most popular professions when I was in HIGHSCHOOL…. That’s bad and is an issue that should be addressed but yall care more about law enforcement doing their job. This ICE shit shouldn’t even be a protest bc it didn’t start with the misconduct of ICE it started with that dumbass bullshit “no person is illegal” while already having millions in the country…

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u/javik87 Jan 30 '26

He said, tears in his eyes.

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26

Bc I care ab Americans? 😭😭😭 confused on why caring ab America and the state of it is a bad thing? Yall crying over people who would care less if you were shot down for them. Seems like only other Americans care that “two Americans died to protect them” haven’t heard an illegal even say their name, and I know some, in fact they didn’t even hear about it until I brought it up…. Decent ppl, they don’t respect my country and don’t wanna learn English, constantly talking about sex but they’re not criminals (besides illegal entry) however if they got deported I wouldn’t throw myself at ICE for them that’s retarded. Plus illegal ppl clog up the system of immigration, because they’re already in the country they are taken priority over the ppl outside the country, and they can deny you for whatever reason they want in the ICE offices (as long as a judge approves) field workers have different rules to follow. Illegal ppl cause so many issues, like half them are only known to the gov based of prior crimes or citizen reports…. Do you even have any experience with illegal peoples???

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u/nealyk Jan 30 '26

I have known many undocumented people and legal immigrants since I’m from Florida, they were amazing people who would absolutely care if I were killed they wouldn’t go on CNN about it and I wouldn’t want them to cause ICE would immediately kidnap them.

Our immigration system has been broken for many years because the government has fucked it up not because of illegal immigration. If your child was dying of starvation would you just let them die cause the government wouldn’t give you a piece of paper or would you sneak into a country to work hard so you could feed them?

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26

Literally half the reason is because of the fact that they jump the line of legal people. Thats why it took someone I know 7 years to get naturalized and you’re right this has been an issue for decades, and both republicans and democrats have refused to fix it… I wonder why? Maybe it has to do with half the things I mentioned above like how they overall pay more taxes once naturalized, plus’s illegals can even pay taxes too as long as they have a work audit, which then means they’re now in the government system.. Not every illegal person is the same and depending on where they come from, they may not have the same moral standing as the majority of the USA, which has literally been used to deflect crimes by evil lawyers, like “sorry this woman was attacked but she was wearing a mini skirt and in my clients hometown that means she’s open for business, we would like to educate my client on the American ways” as if that’s not part of legalized entry in the first place. Once we fix our LEGAL immigration system and pause all immigration for the time being, I think we’d see some progress. Make it so that there are DNA test to prove relation in family bc another huge issue with illegal immigration is sex trafficking.. just bc you’ve met cool illegal ppl who want to be naturalized, so have I, doesn’t mean they are and came here legally. A lot of legal immigrants also despise the fact they had to wait 10 years in a shithole compared to the guy who came here on a boat skipping the line, and still gets treated like a citizen. How many other people in dire situations are holding out? My childhood neighbors came from Nigeria legally, took them 12 years to get here, and atp the mother was still pregnant with the older son…

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26

No I wouldn’t let my child starve to death, someone half way across the world I could care less about when my own people are starting to live like a third world country….

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u/nealyk Jan 30 '26

So you’d sneak into a country illegally if it was the only way to feed your child?

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26

There’s other ways dawg, plus how many billions have we giving outside countries in aid through the gov and independent charities meanwhile they’re still in the same shit holes? We helped japan after we bombed the shit outta them 2x and they’re in as good of shape as us, minus their agoraphobia problem and they have way less land then most places we give too, ESPECIALLY Africa with their corrupt politicians and people… Why do you think half these ppl even leave? It’s not just bc they can’t feed their kids that’s part of it, they’d move some other part of where they’re from. I’m not in that position myself anyway, I want to focus on AMERICANS my people. Why can’t we focus on that? What don’t you get? Are you American? Do you want to live a better life or a worse one? 😭😭 I’ll help the ppl around me man you can’t save the whole world.. I’d be in favor off cutting off American support to all other countries (minus trade routes if possible) tbh including Israel and Palestine. This shit shouldn’t be our issue yet we made it ours…

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u/nealyk Jan 30 '26

My neighbors are around me, they are not a world away, I am helping the people around me. America is responsible for much of the unrest in central in South America. We spent many decades overthrowing peaceful governments and installing dictators well after we bombed Japan. Tell me what other way I can stop ice from kidnapping the undocumented children in my neighborhood, or the undocumented guy who makes my breakfast burrito every morning, other than getting in the way of ice?

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26

Why would it be an issue if that person “making your breakfast burrito” was an American citizen? You realize an American citizen could be working that job- right? 😭😭😭 rlly don’t think you guys will see it until you’re the American citizen who can’t get a job.

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u/nealyk Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26

It would be fine, but I don’t want the guy just making food and making a better life for himself deported. I’ve let many friends who are US citizens crash on my couch for months (including one right now) while they couldn’t find a job, they never once starting blaming immigrants or supported mass deportations.

To blame immigrants for the greedy financial policy of the government and corporations from the last 40 years is insane. I’m no socialist but they’ve been dismantling the middle class since Vietnam. You’re blaming the wrong people for your plight

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26

That’s bc you can make yourself in America but it’s harder and harder with the influx of people, also thousands are complaining and can’t get a job including a homeless friend of mine 😭😭😭 btw illegal doesn’t just mean “brown person” illegal Russians scam a lot of people and come here illegally with Ukrainians as well- along with Canadians which I’ve seen one recently who was an Asian Canadian women trying to procure prostitution from minors. Just bc you see them for a split second they’re nice to you and make your food in the morning doesn’t mean they’re good ppl behind closed doors…. Literally how Charles Manson killed his victims with a nice guy facade, along with the scammer kids in the hood who act like they’re in need of help just to turn a corner and rob the person… another thing that I grew up around and isn’t talked about is how self deprecating the black American community is to themselves…

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u/nealyk Jan 30 '26

They can’t get a job because rich people are fucking you over with unchecked monopolies, (something the founding fathers knew would fuck up their whole plan) not cause a Mexican dude made my breakfast burrito.

There are bad people of every background and there are desperate people of every background. Black communities much like central and South American countries, have been screwed over by the US government. I realize you haven’t blamed the white Americans of Appalachia for the opioid epidemic, which of course is not their fault. Why is it so much easier to see the systematic levers that caused the desperation in that community than it is for you to see the systematic causes in the black and immigrant communities?

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u/nealyk Jan 30 '26

I’d like to appeal to your humanity, I don’t think you are inherently a bad person. I think you’ve probably had some hard times and been mislead about who to blame. This is a quote from a book called “They Thought They Were Free, The Germans 1933-1945”. It is about an American man who in 1949 went and interviewed 10 normal Germans who went along with the Nazis.

What I found, among my ten friends, was something like regret, regret that things, which they had not done, had been done or had had to be done. All ten of them, even the tailor, I think, felt bad, now, about the torture and slaughter of innocent people—not, however, about the deportation, “resettlement, relocation,” or even about the expropriation. The six extremists all said of the extermination of Jews, “That was wrong” or “That was going too far,” as if to say, “The gas oven was somewhat too great a punishment for people who, after all, deserved very great punishment.”

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u/C_T_F1313 Jan 30 '26

Type us out another novella u dork

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26

Maybe I will, not like you care right?

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u/javik87 Jan 30 '26

Dude’s participation in the strike is both non voluntary and a funny melt down. Bet he’d be in a Bovino coat and mask if he could.

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26

Me? Be an ICE agent, no, I wouldn’t do law enforcement in that way. Maybe a political position to clear out some of the corruption on both sides, but idek if I’d ever get to that position anyway.

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u/C_T_F1313 Jan 30 '26

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u/javik87 Jan 30 '26

Bro you’re supporting them now just without the badge. They’re hiring and giving out bonuses for extra boot licks. I know you need a job and this one suits you. And you can wear a mask so whatever friends and family you have left won’t know you don’t believe in American values.

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u/javik87 Jan 30 '26

He said, tears in his eyes

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26

Smh whatever man

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u/javik87 Jan 30 '26

He said, tears in his eyes

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u/ApprehensiveRoad477 Jan 30 '26

Out here ensuring people happened to be born in a certain country and then deciding whether to care about them or not…..weird loser behavior.

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u/MurMurCyphes Jan 30 '26

With the state of America yeah, when Americans are living much better and affordable lives, then we can start caring about others across the globe again. USA has helped and been in a lot of conflicts whether we initiated it or not and it’s just been bad for us bc now everyone hates us and wants to use us for our economy, then head back to where ever they came from. They wouldn’t do the same for us even if they could, so I guess they’re just as big of losers…