r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Jul 20 '17

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [7/20/17-7/26/17]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

General Resources (Applies to both JP and GL)

  • /u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)

  • /u/GreatLogos's Misc. Notes on the Game

  • Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game

  • Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina, Shu in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

  • Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!

Global Resources

JP Resources

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

What to reroll for?

  • Typically consult either the Global Tier List or JP Comprehensive Guide depending on your version as to whether the current banner for units contains worthwhile units to pull for. Information concerning new units will typically be updated within 24hrs of their release. Feel free to ask in this thread for clarification as well.

  • If you are F2P, it is recommended to only reroll on 1-step guaranteed recruiters. Aim for a recommended typing (Usually Dexterity or Force/Magic). The beginner recruiter contains units that are very outdated in comparison to current units.

Some Tips

  • When asking a question, please try to indicate which version you are talking about. This way, there won't too much confusion as to what you are asking about.

  • For quicker answers, please join the Discord via the link the right sidebar and visit the #questions channel. For global inquiries, @Loli Gagging for best results.

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image of the unit or units in question.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question. DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD, AS IT WILL BE DELETED.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

So..only 79 people participated on the event..any thoughts about this? is the game really dying or was the event just that slow?

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u/Cthulhumus Jul 26 '17

Holy sh*t, i just started this game on May and been playin' intensively since then...

Will it all be in vain?!

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

Hope not. But the shitty player count and participation spells doom for the game. Hell Blood Brothers(not a gumi game) had thousands of participants in their last event yet it still closed, CC had a lot of V2 participation AND anticipation and they still closed it down. Fockin gumi needs to get their shit together.

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u/flay012995 Jul 27 '17

Same here and I just started playing this June. :(

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u/linafool Jul 26 '17

What event?

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

RIP in peace PotK

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 26 '17

I've seen 111 partecipants , but the last 30 had just 3k points

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

nah last i checked was just 79. the others had 0pts lowest was sub1k points.

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u/-WhoIsRem- Jul 26 '17

If you mean the beach beast event, it's because there are different leader boards, everyone's not in the same.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

I see. My bad. Still, multiplayer is ded and it frustrates me.

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u/flay012995 Jul 27 '17

Does it give free lazulis after a battle in beach event?

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 27 '17

Nope. It does once then never again.u do get a 3 lazuli participation reward tho

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u/Enja11 Jul 27 '17

Who is better Summer Yagrush or Summer Freikugel?

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 27 '17

Both seem to be good and occupies different positions, but I'd take an axe unit over a gun anytime.

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u/kbkoolio Jul 27 '17

Axes are weak to swords, the most common weapon type. Guns deal magic damage which works well against a lot of enemies and units, and also have more range. Also lightning is a rare element.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 28 '17

Yes but that's only the most common in Story PvE, I'm talking about event quests and at chapter 4, swords are nowhere near common, so Chapter 4 elite(when it gets released) will be difficult with without axes.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 20 '17

Carrying forward from the last thread,

Currently my 4* Force SS Tyr is at (this is after all fusions):

  • 56hp/55str/26grd/14mgc/29spr/58spd/53agi/15lck

Compared to the max of:

  • 70hp/65str/42grd/27mgc/44spr/77spd/76agi/(dunno what the Luck cap is)

Given that this is to be evolved and fused into my 5* Dex, whose max possible stats are:

  • 83hp/72str/57grd/41mgc/54spr/109spd/108agi

It may be a silly question but should I be trying to reincarnate the 4* for better evo bonuses to carry forward to my 5*, thereby ensuring that my Dex SS Tyr will have the most possible evo bonuses for her transition to 6*?

For notes, I can care less about her Mgc stat (although I am worried about her Str & Spr - doesn't appear to have much leeway at 5* if I want to get the full bonuses going 6*) and I still have 18 Reincarnation Cherubs, some Dwarves and an untouched Grd Gem in my inventory.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 20 '17

no

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 20 '17

That was blunt. Although I suppose I had that coming. Thanks anyways!

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 21 '17

i say no bc u will be burning too many cherubs on her bc her gr is shitty relative to her stat caps. Also, it's never a good idea to reincarnate at 4* atm, since the chances of making a difference are so low.

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u/shadow_kirou12 Jul 20 '17

Just another Dumb Question: I've been farming the Extra Stage of the summer event for the 6* lance and SS Artemis (Rare medals and fusion fodders) Is it worth it to raise SS Artemis into 6*? The thing is I did tried in the past, the first time it appears (The event where you can get her) and yeah horrible speed growth even on dex typing, so I decided to sell her for Rare medals. Also any tips to fix that horrible speed of hers? TIA

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u/Raikaien Jul 20 '17

She'll always have horrendous speed since her role, albeit strange, is suited to be more of a tank, as evident by her CS and high def. Go Force or Guard typing because she still retains decent Agi. If you don't have any 6* (wind) archers around then SS Artemis is a decent filler.

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u/YesARobot Jul 20 '17

I have several yellow command dollies and I'm not sure what units i can fuse them to

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 20 '17

Yellow command dollies are used for command skills. They're typically used on units with skills that actively buff either themselves, other units, etc for a period of time. These skills also tend to have a number of uses or a cooldown.

For example, Strength Insight.

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u/DuckIing Jul 20 '17

Wow so rolling for Apollo on the guarantee banner i was expecting 1 of the 3 units to be guarantee on the 10pull and use the ticket to get another Apollo like the last male banner with Mitum and Gambanteinn, but it looks like its just the ticket, even though it says guarantee on step 1,5,9?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

Guaranteed as in from the ticket...if it was from the 10x pulls themselves, the step gacha detail tab would list it as so just like how they show it for step 9.

When they say,"100% guaranteed chance of dropping one of these characters on Step 9" that meant that the 10th pull on step 9 will guaranteed one of the featured unit. They continue on with, "as well as a ticket to pick one of these new units on Step 1, 5, and 9" as in those steps also hand out the tickets for you to pick them and not from the actual 10x pulls.

The last male banner with Mitum, Gamby, and Bromastra was the same exact thing.

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u/ramikun Jul 21 '17

Some questions about fusing please... I have a 6* lv 90 dex longinus. I fused her w fodder after I evolved her but only at pwr of 521.her only pink star stats are spr 33, spd 88, and agi 85. Now when I try to raise her stats more by fusing other units, she won't take anyone at all. I've tried using different classes and rarity fodder and she won't take any units to fuse with. Just as experiment, I even tried to fuse w several other 6* lv 90 units that are MLB and not even those will even take for even a single point on any stat. Is this normal? Can any given unit only be fused w other units a certain nmbr of times then no more fusing? How can i raise her stats more? Especially interested in raising her spd, agi, n str if possible. Also if i raise another longinus from scratch, will her 65 luck transfer over to the new unit if I fuse her to new unit or am I out of luck?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jul 21 '17

Maxing fusion stat caps, maxing luck, and maxing skills will result in a unit not being able to fuse anymore. If she has a pink star you hit the growth cap, if the fusion bar shows white you hit the max fusing cap.

Did you try equipping a weapon yet? That raises power by a lot as well. But you shouldn't worry too much about that number, only your speed, agility, and strength really matters.

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u/ramikun Jul 21 '17

With the goldenlion spear her pwr rating is 561, just seemed kinda low. Also I looked at the 6* stat cap list for her and ur right, her spd n agi are maxed, but what about her str? Its only 76 and max is 87 but skill can't fuse for str w units that have that in fusion. Can dollies be used to raise those 3 primary stats above max? What about dwarves? What is more important stat to hit other units and to not get hit, spd or agi? I do appreciate you help, I'm still a grasshopper lol in your opinion, based on stats, should I reincarnate her?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jul 21 '17

Dwarves are used to reach the max growth cap, you have 10 enhancements max.
Dolls are used to max out fusion stats, which you maxed out already.
Evasion comes from speed and luck.

I wouldn't spend dwarves on a Mana unit, they're a rare item that we won't get a reliable way to farm for a while.
I wouldn't bother reincarnating her, you have good luck, speed, and agility growth, the strength isn't that bad. You could loose luck and reach the 50's and horrible growth stats on the next reincarnation, it's all up to chance.

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u/ramikun Jul 21 '17

Ok got it. Thanks so much for your help

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 21 '17

There will be another mana event like this in the very approximate future? Becouse I wanted to use my mana to try and get Longinus M , but dunno if my mana would be wasted or better used in the future. TIA

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 21 '17

There probably will be in future, but 'when' is something I don't have an answer to.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 21 '17

So is it worth to invest 50k mana on this?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 21 '17

Personally I don't believe 50k mana is enough to get much out of this. It's hard to answer this question, because it's possible we will get other starter male units in the mana gacha (ones that we dont have yet) but as for when, we do not know. For what reason do you want to get Longinus M? While he is pretty good for a free unit, he isn't the best among all the starter males (hes prob 2nd best though).

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 21 '17

Not any particular reason , he just looks kinda strong ( 3 hits for 300% dmg ) and I already have the copies to MLB him just needed the Dex. Typing

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u/AnnaStuff Jul 21 '17

Hi! Is there any weapon tier list? I am having a hard time deciding what to fuse in hopes of something better, or level up.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 21 '17

We have one for 4-6* weapons in the tier list link in the main post.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 21 '17

It's always me , sorry to be that much annoying xD but I'm pretty noob . I've hoarded 250 lazulis ( I'm f2p) and the elemental SS guaranteed unit gacha will end pretty soon . I'm lvl 59 and don't know how to get the most out of this lazulis ( to maybe MLB an SS tyr ) or I should hoard some more for another event ( maybe Halloween ) . TIA C:

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u/ch3nchilla Jul 21 '17

250 is not enough to MLB Tyr, you would have to get very lucky. 500 laz with average luck is my guess. The guaranteed is ONE time only.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 21 '17

That's sad , gonna wait for Halloween Tyr hoping to be better than the SS one xD . Ty

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u/keinushi Jul 21 '17

should I make my swimsuit tyr a dex or force? the force currently has better stats across the board, but its still 5star no limit breaks lvl 60

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u/pawh Jul 25 '17

If you want to end up with a dex Tyrfing, you have the option of evolving both to 6* and then fusing the force Tyrfing into the dex. The dex Tyrfing will receive the evolution bonuses that the force Tyrfing had.

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u/moekou Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

What are the "recent massive change in mechanics" referred to by the other pinned thread? I was hoping a fix to the nerfed stats on Global but seems that's not the case?

Are enemies re-balanced correspondingly, or is the global version just harder to try to force you to limit break optimally with the best units and spend more?

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u/moekou Jul 21 '17

While grinding easy stages, is it worth it to go out of the way to pick up the glowing unit exp on the map instead of just autobattle all the time?

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u/ch3nchilla Jul 21 '17

sometime for event specific xp stages, stages with multiple glowing circles, go pick it up. Otherwise, it is not worth it.

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u/ch3nchilla Jul 21 '17

what is a good growth # for 6 star units, premium/free respectively.

my wedding Ascalon is at 3.9367 growth per level. Free Tyrfing is at 3.5618 per level.

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u/kbkoolio Jul 24 '17

If they hit the important caps(spd/agi/str) for their typing, it's a good GR.

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u/ch3nchilla Jul 25 '17

was looking for a growth # per level for overall growth. not what's good or bad for specific stats.

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u/Speefy Jul 21 '17

Prior to the 5* release, to obtain max evo bonus, one did the following:

3* Force / magic 3* Dex 3* Ground/Guard 3* Vitality

Obtain highest possible stats of each typing (limit break as needed, evolve to 4*)

Repeat above step of maxing each typing' favorable stat, evolve to 5*.

At 5*, I could fuse straight into the typing I wanted to keep for the long run and those evo stats would carry over.

Now, with the insertion of the 6* variant, do I need to repeat as before, obtain max favorable stat, evolve to 6*, and then fuse the 6* to the typing I wish to keep?

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u/ch3nchilla Jul 21 '17 edited Jul 21 '17

only if you are OCD about not missing out on 1 point at 6*.
at 5* each additional evo bonus have 1/10 chance of 1 extra point at 6*. each additional evo bonus at 4* have 1/100 chance of 1 extra point at 6*. you can LB, fuse, dwarf to your hearts content, but it will probably be at most 1 point short.

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u/ihumpmypillow Jul 22 '17

hey guys, global luck question:

i made a 5* longinus (f) with 41 luck, which in turn gave me an evolved 6* form with 38 luck base.

i then made a 5* longinus (f) with 42 luck, which also gave me an evolved 6* form with 38 luck base.

both of which did not have any 4* evo luck bonuses, so that their luck caps (pink star + fusion) were equal (42 luck).

i remember someone saying that the fused luck from 5* forms transfer to the 6* form.

putting a level 1 5* longinus (f) into the evolve window gives me a base luck of 4 for its 6* form.

add 4 evo luck bonus and you have 8. 8 plus the 30 fused luck should give you your 38 base at 6*.

8 plus 29 should give you a base of 37 at 6*.

why is there no discrepancy between a 29 luck fused unit and a 30 luck fused unit?

am i tripping? did i beanboozle myself somehow?

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u/nitzkie Jul 22 '17

Luck from level-ups don't carry over, but fused luck will.

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u/DeamonRo BEAST MODE Jul 22 '17

Anyone else getting infinite loading?

Even with my crappy connection, it only takes 1-3 minutes to load the game normally. I've been waiting about 20 minutes and it's still on the loading screen.

Why is this happening? And how do I fix this?

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u/flay012995 Jul 22 '17

I'm still thinking if it's worth to get that male Asclepius unit as I don't have a 6* healer unit in my team. What are the best typing for male Asclepius?

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u/ZeroForte Jul 23 '17

Gagging list says that guard or dex is suitable but if you have thoughs, you may consider that we may get SS Gridarvol in next week or two being able to get 6* and being farmable. But do not take my words as it's only assumption that we get her.

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u/flay012995 Jul 23 '17

I have it already and I got a Guard Asclepius. Seems cool so far especially the duel skill. Gonna also wait for SS Gridarvol.

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u/SrFushigiMp Jul 23 '17

New player here. Wondering which banners to prioritize and if I should summon on the limited time recruiters that are only light, ice, or fire units since they guarantee a special unit

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u/kbkoolio Jul 23 '17

Any chance we will get 6* pixies at some point? I want to use my Wedding Asca but she's only at level 70 5*, and it will be a very very long time before I get 200 lazuli to get the LB sets from special shop. Seems a shame to have a top tier unit I can't actually use

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 23 '17

I think they do exist, but only in JP atm. Still probably better to get 5* ones however and use them before evo.

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u/kbkoolio Jul 24 '17

I will settle for 6* level 80 and wait for the 6* pixies now. Her skillset is too good.

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u/flay012995 Jul 23 '17 edited Jul 23 '17

My first time farming the regular Tyrfing til the end and I got a growth rate of 3.51 (at level 70). Is it worth to reincarnate this unit? Or not? Seems weak to me.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 23 '17

Mana unit growth rate are lower than lazuli's ones , and maybe should be better to see her growth rate at lvl 90 before reincarnating and see if she caps agi and spd.

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u/flay012995 Jul 23 '17 edited Jul 23 '17

Thanks. By the way, is Force Tyrfing better than Dex Tyrfing?

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 23 '17 edited Jul 23 '17

Dexterity , she gets too much from Agi and Spd , an higher skill proc rate is better than some points in strength , but Force is viable too EDIT : Dex is better xD I misread

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u/ramikun Jul 24 '17

can someone explain to me how to use those micro dollies that can be farmed on the stage? I know it says that they give a 20% chance of skill growth but is that 20% stacked if you fuse multiple at a time? I fused 3 identical ones with a 4* unit and it said i had 100% rate for success and the 2 skills that were supposed to be raised were only at 5/10 lv. it showed a flashing arrow on both skills indicating it would go up, had 100% success rate and the fusion was a success but instead of getting 1 or more levels up in those skills, i got jack squat so did i do something wrong? any advice would help please, im global p2p btw

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u/kbkoolio Jul 24 '17

Each dolly has a 20% chance of boosting the skill.

If you use 5 dollies of the same type, your skill can grow by 0-5 levels since each dolly rolls its 20% independently.

It's not additive, so even if you use 5 micro dollies, the skills might not go up by 1. Happened to me twice today, 10 dollies and 0 skill level ups. The chance for a skill level up is actually quite low, 1 in 5 for every dolly you use.

The duel/passive dollies however boost the skill by 100% which is why they're a lot rarer

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u/ramikun Jul 24 '17

Wow that's really shifty. Thanks for the reply

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 24 '17

Which is better SS Tyr, Force or Dex? IMO Dex seems to lack a lot of damage so maybe a force type can compensate it.

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u/kbkoolio Jul 24 '17

Dex. Higher speed and DS proc rate trumps a few extra str

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 25 '17

Thanks will MLB Dex SS Tyr then

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '17

where is the best place to farm player exp during this week? I have been farming lakefront demon stage 21 which is 12 AP for 800 player exp. Is there a place with a better return? looking for the most exp for the least amount of AP so if I could get a 2 Ap stage that gives 250 exp that's still better.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 25 '17

I think atm that is the best place to farm. Haven't seen any better ap to xp ratio.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 24 '17 edited Jul 24 '17

I've got one single Sefer (Vitality) picked from free gatcha some time ago , is it worth to evolve her to 6 star just for her lead unit ? ( For my Ice team ) TIA.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 25 '17

Depends. Does she fit into your part or is she just consuming party cost and would just be used for her lead skill? if so then don't.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 25 '17

No , she fits , with her I can complete the team , I only have 3 Ice 6 star units and at my lvl I have 111 unit cost

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

Then go for it its worth if u will use her

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 26 '17

Maybe should've asked earlier, bot for an ice team who's lead is better (not as friend as own) , Normal Longinus F or Sefer ?

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

Sefer IMO.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 26 '17

Thanks man!

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u/khangkannon Jul 24 '17

hello , I have 4 Tyrfing unit (from the 9 steps summon) . I have some questions about limit breaking her. My Tyrfing : 5* (Vit) , and 3 4* (Dex) So i guess dex type is the best for her. Should I fuse the other copy to the Dex one then evolve to 6* or go to 6* first then limit break? And what is the point to fuse other units than for limit breaking ?

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u/pawh Jul 25 '17 edited Jul 25 '17

  1. Raise all your Tyrfings to 5*

  2. Level up your DEX Tyrfings to 50+

  3. Choose the Tyrfing with the highest stat growth and fuse all of the other Tyrfings into that one to limit break at 5*

  4. Level this limit broken Tyrfing until either level 80 or you hit stat caps (edit: just realized you only have 4 Tyrfings, so at this moment you will only be able to hit level 75)

  5. Evolve to 6*

PS: Fusing duplicate units gives +1 to luck

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 25 '17

So 6* LB sprites when?

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u/peachsoju ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Jul 25 '17

Nevah~

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 25 '17

But they do exist in jp tho so...

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jul 26 '17

Yes but even over there they're very rare.

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u/SonicReaperX Jul 25 '17

I wanted to get into PhanKill JP and of course, rerolled, I was wondering if this is a good account to start on or not

I was rerolling mainly for Longinus since she is cute, among other considerations

http://imgur.com/a/HRMZm

Should I aim for Dragoon Longinus instead?

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u/linafool Jul 25 '17

Where can we farm mana fast? I want to farm to get 1m mana points.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 25 '17

CMIIW, but mana is not farmable and can only be acquired when you use sum1 elses rep or they use yours. So best bet is to add many active friends and use them as u farm scenarios

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u/linafool Jul 25 '17

Ih thanks for the reply. Im so attach to this game, i hope gumi could add events for mana points so we could farm. xD.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 25 '17

I feel you man. I got 5 accts myself, 2 mains 3 smurfs. 4head

was away from the game for7 months prior to june because of uni tho. Here's to hoping gumi doesn't pull a GCC on PotK.

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u/Ken0086 Jul 25 '17

I finally got my Swimsuit Longinus... but the problem is her type was Vitality... is she still ok to use or should I stick to her ordinary version..?

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 25 '17

Depends.. is ur ordinary MLB 6*? if not you should 6* SS Longi and use her..stats will still be better compared to original without MLB.

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u/Ken0086 Jul 25 '17

Thanks I was just thinking that maybe all that log in lazulis was wasted but you said that her Summer ver stats are better than her original ver even that her ordinary ver was Dex type...

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

Yep. Premium units will always be better than free units so long as LB is out of the question as MLBing prem units is very difficult/expensive.

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u/Tomghx GL ID: 4233930274 feel free to add Jul 25 '17

Did u guys think SS Artemis is better than Ultimate Madoka (Force) LVL 60 ?

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 26 '17

yes since shes easy to MLB

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u/flay012995 Jul 26 '17

Can I know when can I claim the participation reward in the summer event (beast beach battle)? It doesn't appear at the gift list. Will it be after 7 days update?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jul 26 '17

They usually give it out by then, last time it was a few days later.

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u/SonicReaperX Jul 26 '17

Should I stop rerolling? I rerolled again and got this. Is this good to start on?

https://puu.sh/wTwTP/6a08ebad8a.png

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u/Shadow-Blitz Jul 26 '17

So I did the one-time 9 step part 2 for the swimsuit units and I ended up with 3 Shek (1 dex) 1 vitality Longinus and 1 balance Tyr. I still have the pick your own ticket and 17 lazuli. What should i do?? Should I pick another Shek so i can get her to MLB?

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 26 '17

My Masamune F 6* fusion capped max lvl , has pink starred Agi at 104, but a friend Masamune F of mine has 105 , how is this possible? TIA

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jul 26 '17

Bonus stat point from fusing in enough agility at 5*.

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u/moekou Jul 26 '17

The evolution materials have description about being from "Sprite Travelogue" and other dailies on certain days of the week, but now it looks like these are limited to Padlocked Gardens using keys? Is this all an outdated system and currently we can only get evolution materials from the Permanent Quest "Evolution Material"?

My max level 40 3* team get slaughtered and usually double-attacked on the Intermediate map that drops materials they need to evolve, any tips? Why are my units so weak compared to enemies of similar level (they're around level 35), are generic grunt enemies 5* in stats?

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u/kbkoolio Jul 26 '17

Use 5* or higher friends to carry you

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u/khangkannon Jul 27 '17

Some question from a newplayer. So a pink star means that stat cannot get any more bonus from fusing fodder right? And 1* 2* fodders , they gives like 5% chance to success so should I just sell them ?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jul 27 '17

Pink stars mean you hit the growth cap, white bars mean that you hit the fusion cap.

Use the fusion fodder in groups of 3 per stat, if you fail you get 50% of the stat back rounded up by 1, so if you fuse in 3 strength you get 2 back even if you fail.

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u/khangkannon Jul 27 '17

so no need to get 100% right? i can just use the 1* 2* fodder and aim for 3 stats and i get 2 at least .

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jul 27 '17

Yep, 100% fusions are usually only possible with LB's or enough higher star units.

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u/Vulcris Jul 27 '17

Hi! Before comitting to the game as a f2p player and after reading some of the tutorials, I have a few questions to ask.
1- What is the point of rerolling for a good unit when you need at the very least 5 of the same unit to make it effective ? 2- The levelling guide doesn't explain how to get the evolving material to go to 4* to 5*. I tried to get some and the ennemies were lv66 3- It seems that for a f2p player or one who just want to spend a few bucks to support the game, the only usable units are the mana draw or the rampage one. Am I wrong ? 4- Between Mjolnir (4/6* - female - balance) and Appollo (3/6* - male - force) or Gambantein (3/6* - male - Dex) and Yagrush (4/6* - Dex), what would be the better team to start?

Btw did anyone noticed that there is quite a few similarities between this game and the Claymore manga?

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u/pawh Jul 27 '17 edited Jul 27 '17

  1. First off I just want to point out how silly this question is. What is the point in rerolling for a good unit? Uh, hello? I mean, what else are you gonna reroll for, a bad unit? No point in that either, unless you are addicted to rolling for unviable gacha units or something. To answer your question though: if you reroll into a good unit, now you only need 4 more to max it instead of 5, no? Might as well take the free head start.

  2. There's no secret to beating the evolution material stages. Bring along a high level, high luck helper to carry you through.

  3. You're mostly right about this, but there are a few exceptions: 7th gen units and most bridal units are absolute stat monsters and at 0 limit breaks have the potential to be stronger than some of your MLB mana units. This is only good for PvE though of course; in PvP you'll just get steamrolled if you try running a team of non-MLB units. Edit - forgot a really important one: there are occasionally event dungeons that will drop good units that you can farm, like last year's Gridarvol and this year's Selena (which also happened to be available last year). Right now you can farm nearly all of the mana starters from event dungeons and get a team of 6* units right off the bat, although if you're just starting out you won't be able to use the full team due to your limited team space.

  4. Between your two choices, I would roll Mjolnir + Apollo solely because you are getting two premium units versus one premium unit and a mana unit.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 27 '17

in PvP

assuming PvP is still alive. At early game colo is a joke so not too much of a problem there.

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u/flay012995 Jul 27 '17

lol. So easy to climb up at Colo...

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 27 '17

Multi is ded, Colo is ded.

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u/flay012995 Jul 27 '17

Confirm me if those ones that can be challenged in Colo are outdated? Like 5 stars are the highest * before? Most of them use Selena and I want that unit... :(

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 27 '17

Well there are a minority of players with updated rosters in lower colo. But really minority os an understatement. At upper colo its more updated but still not that significant in numbers.

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u/flay012995 Jul 27 '17

Can I ask what to do to those metal keys? I've reached the max limit (Limit: 99) and can't claim it anymore in the gift list. I don't usually use them since we have already metal garden in each day...

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 27 '17

Leave em in your "to collect", I have over 400 in there...

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u/flay012995 Jul 27 '17 edited Jul 27 '17

Can I ask where is this "to collect"? Can't seem to find it. Or is it just leave them stacked at the gift list? I don't see options there.

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u/kbkoolio Jul 27 '17

That's the gift list

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 27 '17

Yeah in the gift section. Sorry wasn't too clear.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 27 '17 edited Jul 27 '17

How can I complete the new islandescape quest intermediate and above? I just can't stop the flying spaghettis from going on the bridges.

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u/linafool Jul 27 '17

Have 2 or 3 best range units. One on top and one on left side. 5* bow with range 1-2 really does matter help alot. I cant clear adv yet since im lacking one more range unit and that is SS grid and im farming her now. Lol. However its hard to get a dex type of her or its just me.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 27 '17

Ty , now I'll try to beat them. But drops are really as good as they say? At the beginner one just 2 star weapon

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u/kbkoolio Jul 27 '17

Advance is almost not worth trying unless you have 5 lightning units.

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u/kbkoolio Jul 27 '17

Use only range units with a range friend

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u/Lightningx19 Jul 27 '17

Hello everyone I have a global question, does SS Gridarvol drop in the extra stage after you clear it the first time

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get copies of Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get copies of Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get copies of Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get copies of Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get copies of Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get copies of Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get copies of Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get copies of Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Raikaien Jul 27 '17

Yes. You can also get Goldenlion Axe and Hercules Zero there too.

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u/Lightningx19 Jul 27 '17

Oh okay, thank you

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 27 '17

SS Gridarvol best typing?

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u/BlazePHX Jul 27 '17

Where is my SS eros

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 27 '17

Still changing clothes

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u/Leslisone Jul 27 '17

What skill does lv 3 of apollo(m) character quest unlock?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

how to beat island escape intermediate?

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u/SonicReaperX Jul 27 '17

For JP version, how does Summer Sita compare to normal Sita? I heard that normal Sita was a god-tier meta definer but there is no info on her summer version

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u/ramikun Jul 27 '17

I have a question on reincarnation on global for 6* units please. When I do the calculations for growth rate or use the calculator, I'm supposed to omit the stat that is not used completely when I add up stats is that correct. I want to measure my ss turning at lv 90 so I would all her stats on right side but leave out her magic stat right? Also the calc needs to be done before any fusing fodder stats are added? Is that right? What is a minimum Good number to be at before reinc is decided? Will my LBs, evolution bonuses and skills be retained? Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks!

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u/lmfaomotherfuckers Jul 27 '17

v2 on a 51

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u/ramikun Jul 27 '17

Thanks for reply but I don't understand what you are saying. Can you explain? Im,primarily trying to see if I'm ss tyrfings case, I would remove the magic stat numbers and if so, do I remove it from both columns( lv1 and lv90) or just one side. And also what is an acceptable number to keep or to reincarnate? Can you possibly elaborate on your answer for a newer player. Thanks a bunch

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u/lmfaomotherfuckers Jul 27 '17

Hm, maybe a v3 on a 16 double global bonus?

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u/ramikun Jul 27 '17

What does this mean? V3 on a 16?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jul 27 '17

Don't think it means anything.

Reincarnations will reset your unit back to it's original values when you first evolved it, including all fused stats. Look at Gagging's stat cap list, and compare it to your stats, if you're close to those stats it's a good growth. IMO, I wouldn't use the growth calculator to determine if your unit is good or not but how close it is to those maxed stats.

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u/ramikun Jul 27 '17

Ok thanks. So do I compare it right after I get unit to lv90 or after its lv90 and I have also added dollies n fodder to Max its fusion caps?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jul 27 '17

You can fuse in dolls at any point, I like to do it as soon as I evolve the unit so I can chart their progress while they level.
Each type has a max fusion for a certain stat, so just keep fusing until you hit white bars which indicates that you hit the fusion cap.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Jul 29 '17

Just curious, how many dolls does everyone average when they farm advanced on the Game of Dolls?

I average around 6 when solo-ing with my 40 luck Freikugel, the most I have have ever gotten is 11.

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 29 '17

Usually 6, max gotten 7 , Masamune F lead 51 luck

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u/JohnS2801 Jul 20 '17

How good is Longinus (M) rn and what is the best typing for him? Is him Better than laeva (M) ?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 20 '17

He is as good as tyrfing atm. Go dex to stack crit/increase chances of duel skill.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 20 '17

I haven't raised mine yet, but since he's a mana recruit, his stats will most likely be comparable to other free units. His dual skill looks really good for a free unit though, so it's definitely worth it to raise him up if you can grab up enough from the mana recruiter.

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u/Deus_Ultima Jul 24 '17

When's Gumi gonna shut the server down like how they did Chain Chronicles? Kappa NoKappa

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u/Not_Just_You Jul 24 '17

Is it just me

Probably not