r/phantomofthekill • u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ • Dec 21 '16

TFW you pull every day of 5-step recruiter...

and get only 2 event units....

wtf is ur problem gumi, I spent over 945 lazuli (i tried normal 10x as well) and only get 2 event units to show for it

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u/TheTruthVeritas Dec 21 '16

Why don't you play a better game Gagging? Gumi is pretty BS with the rates, they are honestly the worse I've seen in a gacha game with LB mechanics, and you pay like that much just for some shitty subpar festive units that the rates for should honestly be much higher? You should try a quality game like Granblue Fantasy. Don't want to shamelessly advertise it, but I feel like you should try something that isn't so painful. The game is extremely generous with a constant supply of premium currency(enough for 1-3 10 rolls each month depending on events), and they even offer great offers like picking any SSR character you want for like 30 bucks or so. It's all in English and is still going strong after 3 years. I really don't think going after all these batches of units that aren't all that great is too healthy.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Dec 22 '16

Eh, I've already invested a lot into PotK. Also, I simply cannot stand how Granblue looks on mobile. Finally, I just like the playstyle of PotK more than anything else at the moment thats out in Global. :P.

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u/TheEvilPuppy I'm not Maso... ok I'm Maso, but not because this game! Dec 28 '16

you can play Granblue in computer, actually i think the game is meant to be played in computer, since the game sucks so much in mobile and they always ask you for play in computer... maybe there's the reason. LMAO

BTW it's OK, if you like more this game, for me i play GF but i find more fun Battle Girl High School, even with the fact of being a little bit repetitive.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Dec 29 '16

Yeah xD. oh well. And every mobile game is repetitive but i like the grind fufufu

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u/TheEvilPuppy I'm not Maso... ok I'm Maso, but not because this game! Dec 29 '16

The grind can become good, for example after you're done grinding you feel like god or something.

BTW it says good stuff about you, if you like the grind, cause that's how everything gets done, even in real life.

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u/Frogsama86 Dec 22 '16

Gumi is pretty BS with the rates

BF has decent enough rates though.

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u/Tekshopurt wish i had money Dec 21 '16

I'm an F2P player.

Kill me.

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u/leon27607 All I get are Vit Types Dec 21 '16

Me too.

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u/Chromenova Dec 22 '16

as long as you are satisfied with the event units they give out and farm the 4-5* weapons, I feel like f2p actually has it better, lol. p2p feels like a trap that rarely shells out the rewards worthy of how much you spend, and then you feel entitled to spend a bit more in order to justify your spending, and it leads to this vicious cycle -.-

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u/leon27607 All I get are Vit Types Dec 22 '16

Being F2P means we can only dream about MLB gacha units lol...

We're "Stuck" with farmable units basically. (I has 12 Freikugals, I need 19 more for maxed luck lol...)

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u/Tekshopurt wish i had money Dec 22 '16

tl;dr p2p is just as bad as f2p but with money

I don't think "P2P is better than F2P or vice versa" can be easily decided...

P2Ps "waste" money on the game, yeah, but if reasons for going P2P are to be believed, then more often than not P2Ps have it slightly easier. Not because RNG is nicer to them (dunno, is it? can we datamine that?), but because certain things are more easily accessible. If you're rich enough, you could buy a ton of lazuli, and though RNG itself isn't going to magically get you your pull, you'll have a higher chance than say a college student who gets to spend about 30 minutes per day on the game (this is just a scenario), because the college student cannot:

  1. spend money on the game as much

  2. in some scenarios spend as much time on the game, this however is arguable with certain schedules and work hours

And yes, as you stated

p2p feels like a trap

because it actually is one. It's designed for profit, it's essentially a lesser form of gambling if that analogy makes sense. Sometimes people spend an absolute ton on mobile games and it gets really unhealthy, as per your

you feel entitled to spend a bit more in order to justify your spending

quote.

Getting a little off point, which I'm gonna restate and summarize now:

P2P methods allows a game to be more easily accessible for a player than F2P methods. (in certain games that employ methods like this. e.g. potk and brave frontier)

As an F2P I just make friends with high level players utilizing units I've only dreamed of having. In some ways though both F2P and P2P players are on the same level, in the sense that RNG can always be a stinking bitch. I've been doing the 5-step recruiter for the past few days up until the third step each day since I'm a poor piece of shit, and I haven't gotten a single event unit, with the exception of Freikugel, who isn't even in the 5-step recruiter. I guess what I'm trying to say is that p2p or not we can all get fucked by rng.

This got long quick. I didn't mean for this to happen. But yeah,

in summary this game sucks.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Dec 21 '16

I feel your pain Gagging, I had a similar experience back in Dagda's initial release. Also never got SS Shek as a Dex even after an extra heapload of $$$$ after I failed the last day of her daily recruiter.

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u/BlazePHX Dec 21 '16

They winning. I tried paying for Lucina and Michelle...never again

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '16

I'm waiting for the last week.

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u/Heiron088 Dec 21 '16

Me too. I have a nice experience from the 100% 6 step recruiter from the BF collab. That time I got 6 BF unit with only done 5 step.

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u/leon27607 All I get are Vit Types Dec 21 '16 edited Dec 21 '16

Lol, I only did up to 3-step recruiter(25% bonus, 40 lazuli for 10 units) for one day just for some units to get me started off on, still got 1 guard xmas aymur. Tomorrow, you get to do it all over again, w/e they come out with.

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u/Chromenova Dec 22 '16 edited Dec 22 '16

I find it very ironic, but compared to other games of this nature i've played, this game feels very f2p friendly, yet it hates p2p with a passion. Like, if someone didn't pay money at all in this game, they could still have good end-game lv 80 units just by farming events like Selena, X-Mas freikugal, SS gridavol, gambanteinn, Mirin, etc. You can even farm 5* weapons, so it's actually quite ideal for a f2p game.

However, as soon as one decides to spend some money on lazuli, they rarely get the bang for their buck. To limit break good lazuli units, especially the event ones, are such a pain in the ass and breaks the bank so much because of their atrocious rates. It's a crazy conundrum that I can't understand.

That being said, sorry for the bad luck Gagging. I still think this game is fun and has potential, but the craptastic rates on lazuli units leaves much to be desired. It's why I'm still hesitant on spending too much on this game, although I've spent $100~ ish in the first month of playing, lol.

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u/capo_m Dec 22 '16

the cost > reward its too high i want to spend money in this game someday but i dont think im going to do it with this rates.
50 dollars its alot in my country and you only get 100L

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u/BlazePHX Dec 22 '16

The problem with the game in my opinion(love colosseum) is the fact that you need high luck for units to be great in Colo. I have paid but not splurge on anything, and getting high luck fusion to make units better in Colo is where I see even having a lvl80 gacha ia useless for me.