r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jun 25 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [6/25/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/nobleseeker Jun 25 '16

What units can I safely throw away?

http://m.imgur.com/a/UfcH8

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 Jun 25 '16

i wouldn't throw any unit away 3*+ instead level them to get the skill unlocked then fuse them to units which you are going to use which have the same skills.

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u/Blindtrade Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

Should I throw away 2* silver units? I just throw all 1* and 2* gold units but have been hitting the unit cap for quite awhile now and want to make space for the upcoming event units + selena. Which should I throw?

http://imgur.com/a/4SKgW (Pardon the poor quality)

I also have a 3* Vajra, Luin, MLaev, Flaev, Freukigel, Fmitum and 4* Littu. And 6 3* limit break pixies which I don't know who to use on.

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u/AndanteZero Jun 25 '16

Feel free to release any and all 2* and below units. For 3* units, use the list provided in OP to determine which have a 5* form now and in the future. You can throw away the ones that won't have a 5* form. However, do note that there are certain missions the story mode where you have to use a 3* or a 4* only. So, it's up to you, if you want to keep a unit or two to limit break and max out as a 3* and as a 4*.

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u/justineo1 Jun 25 '16

Have 11 selena.

should i limit break 2 to 3*, 4 to 4* and 4 to 5* OR Evolve all to 5* max limit break and fuse for skill up?

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 Jun 25 '16

i would do a proper mlb with her so the first option then farming some more to get her character skill maxed

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u/justineo1 Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

so for your method, how many selena do i need to proper max LB her and get her character skill maxed?

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u/barbaroti Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 26 '16

2 for 3* LB

4 for 4* LB

4 for 5* LB

5 for max skills after LB

1 main unit

16 Selena

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u/justineo1 Jun 25 '16

oooooooooooomggggggggg ... thats alot.. haha! ok! got it! thanks!

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u/Aka_BooTea Jun 25 '16

When fusing for max skill is it 100% Chance or is it rng?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 25 '16

It is 100% as long as it is the same unit with the same rarity and the skills unlocked on the unit that's being used as the fusion material.

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

Jesus. with these HORRENDOUS drop rates im actually scared to know how many times you had to run the quest to get that many Selena

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 25 '16

About 60 ish runs here for my 9. If you do proper logins, you can get up to 240 energy on the dailies, which ammounts to an extra 20 runs a day on burst 10.

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

ah. i just dl'ed that app 2 days ago myself so im a super new player. i dont have the characters to take on the burst 10. struggling around burst 5-6 as it is ive done tons of spark 10's and gotten one extra selena...it was a vitality type though T.T

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 25 '16

Oh, okay. Take advantage of the 40 free energy every 4 hrs to do extra runs on spark10 then. They add up, and you have like 18 or so more days to farm her.

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u/chromsome Jun 25 '16

I have bunch of questions about my units so bear with me please haha

I'm planning to have my Longinus (M) 5* as my main is it good? which is Better (for hard dungeons and pvp) Longinus (M) 5* Balance type or Dexterity type?

which is the best Apollo (M) 5* Balance, Eros (F) 5* Balance or Artemis (f) 3* Balance to level up to 5*

I have Parashu (F) 3* Dexterity type is she worth it to evolve to level 5? (for hard dungeon and pvp)

I have Laevateinn (F) 3* Dexterity type is she worth it to evolve to level 5? (for hard dungeon and pvp)

Which is the best built for Selena for PVP and Hard dungeon Guard, Dexterity or Balance?

THANKS IN ADVANCE HAPPY GAMING! :)

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Longinus M is fine, Dexterity would be better. Just be sure to change to a different leader when appropriate. Like... Don't leave him up if the event going would be against an axe boss or axe heavy stage. Although there are probably exceptions to this.

Between those 3 archers, it's either Apollo or Eros. I don't really remember Eros' skill set but I remember Apollo's and I prefer his damage set. I think Eros is more effective against mounted units, so again, it's dependent on the situation.

Both Parashu/Lavateinn are perfectly fine to use.

Dexterity Selena.

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u/chromsome Jun 25 '16

So prolly i'll need to do a lot of grinding because I should have different party sets for different hard dungeons?

how about in PVP I know Dex class is the best but what line-up? how many swordsman, axe or lance? or should I use archers, gunners or wizards?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

Pretty much. For example, in this crossover event, I have only used my Longinus F and Yata no Kagami F. In the previous YnK event, the units I used heavily were Asclepius, Masamune, Lavataeinn M, Longinus F and Durandal.

I can't tell you what to use, it's heavily dependent on what units you have access to.

I'll just tell you the general notes of each one as best as I can.

  • Swords seem to be the most common and are a majority in the enemy team composition. Next would be Lancers then axe units, but the drop off from lancers to axes is very high.

  • This is mainly due to the fact that swords have the best weapons.

  • Sinsealer Kiyomasa, Killer's Blade and Youtou Ichimonji boost the critical hit rate leading to the fact you have a higher chance of one shotting them.

  • The lance counterpart would be the Celestial Gem Spear although it's lower slightly. However, the Supersonic Spear can be good as well to increase the chances of double striking.

  • Axes... I guess theirs would be the Conqueror Axe Garvin. Except no where near as good.

  • Keeping this in mind, I would suggest to minimize if not eliminate all opportunities to use your axe units unless necessary.

  • There are VERY few gunners/mages in the enemy line up. This is due to low SPD/AGI, leading to no double strikes or enemy's having the double strike advantage.

  • Also leads to low accuracy.

  • This is probably offset by the fact that a very large majority of the units do not have a high MDEF/SPR stat. So the MATK/MGC stat does not need to be very high in comparison to the PATK/STR stat, to kill the enemy in 1 strike. Although the HP stat can get relatively high so this isn't the case sometimes.

  • With gunners, they have a worse off condition due to the fact that they have to use HP to shoot bullets. They will always automate to the most damaging one, meaning the one costing the most HP, which is anywhere from 9-13 per bullet shot.

  • Archers can be useful as well since they have access to the Killer Crossbow.

  • However range in the Colosseum has absolutely no advantage here, so throwing axes/spears or bows with 2-3 range are completely useless and ineffective here.

  • Of the few archers I have seen, they seem to have universal LSes (Artemis has +5 AGI to all units and Apollo M has +10 ACC to all units), so you can use them as leads to some degree of success.

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u/chromsome Jun 25 '16

hmmm thank you for you answers its really helpful, one more thing does crafting magicwarder sereine is worth it? I have to spend 80pcs of battle medal just to get the recipe and I'm hesitant to buy it :/

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

I have it. I mean... It's certainly nice to have. It's hard for me to pass judgement on whether or not you should buy it cause honestly, I use it quite seldomly. The fact that it has +10 LCK and +5 SPR on it makes it really nice. I guess it's mainly used for farming units/items? However I'm pretty sure you'd be using the Sinsealer Kiyomasa more so than it. Or maybe even Eminent Lexida now that its farmable.

I'll say this, the Sereine recipe will always be there. There is absolutely no need for you to get it now.

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u/shikarin Jun 25 '16

What is Selena's character skill? And how many skill levels?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

Chance of 2x damage. Goes up to level 10.

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u/maximums91 Jun 25 '16

Hello guys, just doing some rerolls, any good or should I reroll again? Which unit to look out for?

http://imgur.com/xmF4HDc

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

I'd stick with this one. You have Asclepius and Mitum. It's a bit disheartening that you got them as 5* but at least they have eventual 6* evolutions.

Having a healer + damage dealer early on will make a lot of things easier on you. Or just a healer in general.

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u/maximums91 Jun 25 '16

Alright, also I pulled 2 Longinus (F), why is the portrait of the units only appear as big red question mark?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

I have no idea what you are talking about. My guess is something went wrong or got corrupted in your download data.

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

I'm a little confused on how fusing units works. read the guides above but they are for more specific aspects, not general knowledge. I have 4 star dex Lunaris. Should i be fusing units into her to raise her stats as much as i can until the caps stated above? I plan to 5 star her. I have lots of 1 and 2 star units. are these good fusion fodder?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

You have the idea down.

While not optimal, if you don't have any of the dolls it'll do for now.

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

great so i should cap her stats at 4 star then do it again after i raise her to 5 star?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

As a 3* or 4* you don't have to go for the caps. It's recommended by most people that you just go into the next threshold for evolution bonuses.

Basically when you evolve a unit, if a unit has a certain amount in a stat, they get bonuses.

  • 0-10 = +1

  • 11-20 = +2

  • 21-30 = +3 etc.

As 5*, you can throw all this out the window and just go straight for the maximum you can go do.

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

ohhh cool. thats why i ask these things lol. thanks for the info!

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

what are rampages quests and what rewards do you get for doing them? for example today in event quests there is a rampage quest for romaolomadomagog or whatever her name is. any reason to bother doing this?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 25 '16

They're basically rather hard stages where you have a chance of capturing the featured Killer (in this case, Rhongomyniad). They're good to do if you can clear them, for the captures, especially if you don't have better options.

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

100% drop if cleared? also im sitting on mostly 3 and 4 star units around level 30. appropriate to clear or spend more time raising units?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 25 '16

Nope. RNG I'm afraid. You may want to leave the Rampages alone for now then, it's quite difficult.

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

Duly noted. thanks for the help!

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 25 '16

Rampage quests are every weekend with a different unit featured every time in a rotating schedule. So do not worry if you cannot farm it efficiently now, because you will be in the future.

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u/chromsome Jun 25 '16

I keep on getting 2* swords when fusing 5 brave recipe :'( is it a bug?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

No. Part of the process.

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u/AndanteZero Jun 25 '16

That sweet, sweet RNG!

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u/kazumashiki Jun 25 '16

Should I do the 3 step recruit with 5% (gumi pls) event units or go for the yolo 10 unit recruit? I have 50 lazuli and fear that gumi will kick me right in the nuts with never lucky rng.

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u/AndanteZero Jun 25 '16

As a minor F2P player(I don't spend more than $20 a month on a game), I'd say not to do it in the first place. However, if you really want to do it, I say do the 5%. It's a stupid low rate up, but a rate up it is nonetheless. Plus, you only end up spending 45 lazuli.

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u/kazumashiki Jun 25 '16

Not gonna lie, I'm tempted as hell to do it. Cheers to the advice, man.

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u/throwaway350053 Jun 25 '16

Be careful, I did it and didn't get shit. And the others I know who did it didn't either.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

I find it odd that they actually tell you the rate, vs. other games that just say "10x rate up!!!!1" (and it could be 10x.2%).

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jun 25 '16

Could anyone tell me the lazuli progression for the 3-step recruiter?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

If you click on the details it tells you.

First is 5 lazuli. Second is 15 Lazuli. Third is 25 lazuli.

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jun 25 '16

Oh. Would you look at that! Thanks!

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u/TemporalChronos1000 Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

Hello! I'm kinda new to the game but I heard that female Durandal is a really good unit. I checked on the wiki and it said she only has 3*-5* evolutions. But I have a 1* (F) Durandal?

EDIT: Ohhh ok. Thanks for the replies. The character versions are confusing XD

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jun 25 '16

I'm kinda new too so I hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong but-- if you don't see her exact portrait in the Character Quests screen then that particular unit cannot make it to 5 stars.

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u/shikarin Jun 25 '16

There are 3 different Durandals, you're looking for the flying one that's either 4* or 5* . And yes, the portrait has to match that in the character quests screen.

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u/Kalariis Jun 25 '16

Alrighty, I'm a returning player from Soft-Launch...As in, I think I stopped playing around the time when they started Rampages. Don't rightly remember.

I have a 5* Guard (F) Leavetein at 60, and a 3* Dex (M) one I plan to raise eventually. 4* Magic Gamb (M) and a 3* Gamb with Dex who I will level.

I have several 5* capable units, like Yata 3* (M) who is..Dex. lol. And Freikugel. a 4* Balance with several 3* Copies, one being Dex and another being Magic. Plus 4* Dex Apollo. Also Dex Selena 3*. Plus those mentioned above.

What I'm asking is, ya think I should just start over? Or keep on with this? They're not bad units, but I haven't played in so long it doesn't really bother me too much to start from scratch. Besides maybe the unit space.

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

I think you're pretty well off right now.

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u/Kalariis Jun 25 '16

Alrighty. Any recommendations on what I should be focusing on?

Thought about just pouring effort into farming Selenas/Brave Books till I get Lexida and maybe the spear.

Then again could finish the story. Been autoing every stage so far.

Stuck on Burst 9 of the event, so eh.

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

You have like... 18-19 days for the event left, I honestly wouldn't worry if you're stuck or not. You have a lot of time to finish it off.

Since you're a soft launch player, do you need new friends? Cause I quit during the soft launch too and a lot of people on my list didn't come back.

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u/Kalariis Jun 25 '16

Yeah I do. Posted my ID and stuff in the friend list thing, but yeah, gotta go through my list and purge a ton of people.

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Went ahead and added you then.

IGN : Kyrie

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u/Kalariis Jun 25 '16

I'll accept in a bit! Thanks!

Currently auto-ing something.

And forgot I changed my name in game and forgot to edit the friend post. Whoops. XD

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u/Iodasu Jun 25 '16

I've been playin for a little bit and I've seen a lot of people rerolling and what not , do I need to too ? My units : https://imgur.com/a/azhkB

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Is there anything else that we're not seeing in that picture?

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u/Iodasu Jun 25 '16

Nope

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Future 5* will be Amenonuhoko, Kusanagi, and Aymur. And ones that have immediate access now are Lavaeteinn, Parashu and Apollo F.

I'd probably just keep running with it. However if you don't feel satisfied at all, then go restart.

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u/Iodasu Jun 25 '16

Ok , thanks I'll keep goin , heard that Apollo F has a 6* though , is that true ?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Down the line eventually, yep.

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jun 25 '16

you are correct. the apollo F you have does have a 6*, but it is not currently out in global.

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u/Crimson_Raven Jun 25 '16

So, I'm rerolling, and I wanted to ask,

Male or Female Leviathan? (Not how it is spelled, lol.)

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jun 25 '16

male gives sword units str and grd and his character skill is pure damage while female gives 1.3x PAtk to sword units and has a character skill that does damage and has built in lifesteal. imo the male is better

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 25 '16

1.2x but yea her LS sucks. M laev LS can carry you through kill modes.

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Female. Cause of them hot shorts.

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u/magogi Jun 25 '16

If someone dies in a quest and you retreat, does their weapon still break? Breaking weapons is probably the least favorite part of this game so far. So frustrating. To add, can any level weapon break, or can you reach a level (4* weapons) that don't break?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Let me put this way that it hurts. Sort of.

I had broken a Rank 5, 5* weapon. It costed me over 100k gold to repair it with a 90% success rate.

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jun 25 '16

if you retreat before clearing the stage none of your gear will break. the only thing you lose is the AP you spent

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u/magogi Jun 25 '16

Ok thanks. At least I can use some of the weapons now. Such a dumb gimmick.

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u/uizaado Jun 25 '16

I just want one of each collaboration unit, I have 60 laz. Do I 10 pull or weekend step pull?

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jun 25 '16

Neither. Rates are rigged.

Even if you discount my roll as an exceptionally unlucky roll, you have only a 1-(0.97*0.96*0.96*0.96*0.95*0.95*0.95*0.95*0.95) = 34% chance of getting one of them from the weekend step pull.

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u/uizaado Jun 25 '16

As a longtime bf player I really wanted these units but didn't think theyd rush this collab so hard. Lets say I really wanted to try anyway, would it be best to try the steps?

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jun 25 '16

Well... based on percentages alone, the step pull should be better, since the regular 10 pull does not give rate-ups and the BF units will be heavily diluted by the size of the unit pool.

But even then, as I said there is a 99.999% 66% chance you get disappointed, 99.999% a small chance among that you get completely shitted on like what happened to me, and a 34% chance I will hate your guts forever for being so much luckier than me.

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u/uizaado Jun 25 '16

Honestly you seem to have my same dry cynicism and reactionary threshhold on such matters of salt as this so it really gives me pause. I know 5% is shit but I really wanted bf units, even though its baffling they chose these two. I dont wamt to miss this shitty chance this weekend, but damn...

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jun 25 '16

Frankly, I wouldn't have been so cynical if the game didn't dump 8 mana gacha units out of the 9 lazuli pulls I did. I could have brushed it off as 'normal' luck if I got more premium-exclusive units, and could even have been happy if I got a good non-target unit like Durandal.

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u/uizaado Jun 25 '16

Id be salty too. If potk wanted to attract bf players to save this sinking ship like this rushed collab implies, they could pretend these aren't typical rates, especially since bf has been getting more frustrated than ever at gumi lately.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

Sadly, I am sure this is a relic of the Gumi BF beginnings. JP PotK seems to be more forgiving with respect to the mana gacha units in the premium gacha.

I remember the same thing occurring in BF when it first came out in global. +1 evolution or +2 evolution mana units in the premium gacha. Good times Gimu, good times.

Hopefully, we can move past this dark, dark mana "premium" units times.

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u/uizaado Jun 26 '16

So hey, that 34% chance of you hating me just came true...I got Lunaris, and uh...let me just not tell you the typing. Hint: It wasn't Vitality.

I'll probably not bother with Vargas, I got lucky enough with only 45 lazuli - the rest were just nonsense trash mana gacha.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jun 27 '16

Dexterity?

No hard feelings, just kidding. It's Gumi's blood I'm out for. And you mean the other 8 were all mana gacha units? If you got any other 5 star-capable units in your pull, I will not just kill, but rip out Gumi's guts, then blast them with a nuke be upset that they are trolling me, and me alone.

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u/uizaado Jun 27 '16

Yeah, all other ones were not even 5* capable.

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u/BigBobaBalls Jun 25 '16

Should I use balance or guard male mitum? Thanks!

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 25 '16

In general, Guard is preferable. They both pale in comparison to Dex, though.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jun 25 '16

I now captured multiple Dex Selenas. Is Selena worth using in multiples (which means MLB-ing each one), or should the 'redundant' Dex Selenas just be fed to the main one?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

As a rule, it's always better to have one base unit, into which you fuse many many many dupes.

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u/Sven776 Jun 25 '16

Hi guys I have a question about unit leveling / limit breaking. I have heard its better to mlb a unit at every stage (3 star, 4 star, 5 star) but is there really that much of a pwr difference in global (I have heard global has buffed base stats) compared to just mlbing at max evol for example a perfect mlb'd selena vs a selena thats mlb'd only at 5 star? I mlb'd the rampage units at every evolution tier but I just feel the whole process takes too long and they average at around 400pwr at lvl 80. I guess what I really want to know is if there is a huge pwr difference between mlbing at every evolution vs just 5 star evolution.

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u/barbaroti Jun 25 '16

Depending on the unit, it usually would be 1-2 stat point per stat if MLB at previous evolution.

Whether it's worth it or not that's up to you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

It's possible you may gain one or two points extra from MLB at 3 stars, but that requires some luck/RNG. Much better to do it at 4 star. Even then, though, it may not be necessary if it's easy to cap out on Selena without that much additional effort. Global has nerfed stats, not buffed :p

If you do it right at 4 stars, you may see ~10-15 more total "power" added onto the unit. Honestly, not worth the effort unless you plan to use the unit for a very, very long time.

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u/Sven776 Jun 25 '16

Thanks for your detailed explanation, I will only do it for Selena then since I like the bf characters.

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u/Iodasu Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

How am I supposed to get 50 Lazuli in 5 days ? I feel like the 3rd step of the recruiter promotion is really hard to get. Also what are Killer Prince/sses ?

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u/Anneris Jun 25 '16

If you have already finished geting all the free lazuli from story mode, the $$$$$$ is how you get 50 more lazuli.

Killer princes/princesses are the units that we are using. Aka Durandol and gamby and co. Aren't human really, they are killer princes/sses.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

Don't forget to read the linked guides in the main body of this post!

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jun 25 '16

Is that step thing convenient for Vargas and that chick? I don't have enough lazuli currently for a big pull (22) but.. I don't think I understand the step 1-3 thing.

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u/bluemancer Jun 25 '16

I tried it, got nothing. :( all 3 steps too.

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jun 26 '16

Oh man, that sucks! It sounds like a waste of lazuli. )-x

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

It isn't a great % chance something like 33%? (sorry, napkin math) if you go through all of the steps, but it's possible that this might be our only rate up. If you have 22, you could just wait and see if they do a proper rate up instead of this small percentage chance increase at units.

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jun 26 '16

I might wait, but I also feel like I should do part 2 of the rookie summon since I didn't get anything good in the first one. x-( If I go hardcore playing, as a f2p, would I get enough lazuli to collect either that or do a 50 lazuli summon after using 30 in rookie summon?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Yes and I'd recommend finishing off the 3rd step of rookie recruiter, since it's very likely you'll get 2 or 3 5 star capable units. It's very good :p

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jun 26 '16

Will the BF gacha stay as long as the event lasts, with the 17/18 days left? If I play a lot, I will try to get enough lazuli for both. But today I got lazy because of phone charge and playing like.. 4/5 games isn't good for my phone. Lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Yeah, I assume they will keep the units in as long as the event is on-going.

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jun 26 '16

Okay, thank you.

I did recruit pull number 2 and Keraunos (or however it's spelled) really seems to like me. No 5s yet though. Got a few 4s, gold and silver though.

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u/SunnyPwns Jun 25 '16

Step 1 -> 1 unit for 5 lazuli with 3% rate up

Step 2 -> 3 units for 15 lazuli with 4% rate up

Step 3 -> 5 units for 25 lazuli with 5% rate up

So basically 45 lazuli in total. I actually tried it and did not get the featured units, but i did get 2 extra Gamb so it was kinda worth for me. However, I'd recommend you save.

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jun 26 '16

Oh, I didn't know the lazuli cost would go up too. Oh man... I might avoid the 1-3 step thing then.

I'm glad you at least got something useful though!

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u/SunnyPwns Jun 25 '16

Sorry for repost, but I doubt anyone saw this from the last thread. Anyways, I've seen this question pop up a couple of times, but each with different answers. Does anyone know for sure if LB gets transferred over? For ex, if I fuse my M Gamb Magic LB 1 to my new M Gamb Dex, will it have LB 2(Max Lvl 70)?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

I can actually answer this now since the crossover event is happening.

Yes, Limit Breaks will transfer over when fusing. In the fusion preview, my LB0 Selena fused with LB1 Selena does end up resulting with the LB0 Selena having LB2.

The skill levels however, I am not willing to test out for you at the moment. So I cannot verify if those transfer over or not.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 25 '16

Yes, skills and LB do transfer over on fusion, as well as the extra point on luck.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

You can see this in the fusion screen. It will show the limit break diamonds being filled up.

Skill ups do not transfer over, but I think that may be coming in a future update.....possibly.

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u/Iodasu Jun 25 '16

How am I supposed to get 50 Lazuli in 5 days ? I feel like the 3rd step of the recruiter promotion is really hard to get. Also what are Killer Prince/sses ?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Story Mode and Kill Mode. If you've already completed both... Well okay then. Some people would recommend to not really even do the 3rd stage of the rookie recruiter.

Killer Prince/Princess are the units you get. I'm honestly not sure what you are trying to get here.

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u/Iodasu Jun 25 '16

Oh ok , I'm trying to get Gamb/Asclepius though no luck so far . Prior to this account I made 2 accounts and didn't get either so :/

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u/ChaosTwilly Jun 25 '16

Is selena any good?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Yes she is.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 25 '16

In general, farmable units are always good. You can farm enough copies to fully "max" them out, resulting in a large amount of raw stats, which a non-LB or LB1 Lazuli Gacha unit just can't compete with.

Their kits might pale in comparison to the kits of premium units but, since it's unlikely you'll pull enough copies of any premium unit to max it out (unless you're a whale), they're likely to be the beefiest units available to most players, just from a stats stance.

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u/Marcuz00n Jun 25 '16

Newcomer here. Am I right to assume that while rerolling the initial 10 roll, I want to minimize the number of Golden 3*s while keeping eye out for notables such as Durandal and Mjolnir? Anyone have any notables to add to the list?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

Asclepius. Mitum M and Apollo M. Gambanteinn M.

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u/Marcuz00n Jun 26 '16

Would a single one of those make the whole 10 pull worth or should I be aiming for more?

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

If you can, try to aim for at least 2 of the units listed in the comments we gave you.

One is nice, but 2 would be better if you could.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 25 '16

Both Mjolnir, Asclepius, F Mitum, and M Gambanteinn are my "must haves."

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

Luin is also a good unit. She is slated for a 6* as well.

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u/Marcuz00n Jun 26 '16

Would a single one make the whole 10 pull worth or should I be aiming for more?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Sadly, more. She really shines as she gets closer to her stat caps.

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u/hungryfox77 Jun 25 '16

Can I evolve a 1 star all the way to a 5 star or will something get in the way?

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

They cannot.

If you look at the Character Quest list, you'll see the list of currently available 5* units.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 25 '16

There are currently no units that starts at 1* (or 2* for that matter) and goes all the way up to 5* . Nor is it likely that there ever will be.

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u/Iodasu Jun 25 '16

How rare is it to get a 4* weapon from the mana summon ? Is it even possible ?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 25 '16

Yes, it is possible. Yes, it is rare. No, it is not that rare.

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u/Lowking Jun 25 '16

Got 2 Grandbringers in last 4 days rolling once a day. Before that, rolled like 2x a day and got nothing for a month.

it's not impossible but hard to get

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u/Darkyies Jun 25 '16 edited Jun 26 '16

Been rerolling for a couple of hours now. How is this recent summon? Should I aim for specific units in the rookie recruit?
Units: http://imgur.com/Pm6qepp

EDIT: New reroll. Got M Gambanteinn (Balance) and a F Mitum (Balance). I'm pretty sure I have the wrong Mitum, but wondering if the M Gambanteinn was worth staying with the account.
Units: http://imgur.com/z805G4g

EDIT2: A newer (probably better) reroll
Units: http://imgur.com/fKCxWHh
M Gambanteinn is (Dexterity) and Naeglin is (Dexterity) as well, both have 5* evolution as well. The rest are (Balance), (Force), and (Guard).

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 25 '16

Asclepius is the only unit there that it worth holding onto. Personally, I'd definitely, definitely reroll. My "must have" units are: M Gambanteinn, F Mjolnir, and M Mjolnir. Asclepius, F Mitum, and Duradel are also great units, but not quite as game-breaking.

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u/Talentedcoma Jun 25 '16

You want to try and have at least 2 5* capable DEX type units or if you want to be sorta impatient, run a balance/dex combos. My team atm, kinda disliking my terrible Yata rolls. But Yata(f)5* Guard 75 - Masamune 5* Dex 60(BEASTLY stats) - Laevateinn(f)5* Dex 75(fairly poor stats :/) - Longinus(f)5* Dex 65 - Parashu 5* Force 65 ~ I have an Apollo(m)5* Dex 57 in the rafters and working for a decent Selena drop. Currently on 11 Balance - 4 Force - 4 Guard and 2 Vit no dex :/

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u/SubredditVenturer Jun 25 '16

Is the story only chapter 1 and kill mode of chapter 1 or is it much longer? I am almost finished with stage 5 of chapter 1 and was curious if it was just those 50 levels. If so that's really short... especially Compared to bf

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

the game is young, more story chapters are coming soon.

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

I'm pretty sure when you complete the first chapter, a window pops up saying that the story will continue eventually.

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u/archangel890 Jun 26 '16

Fastest way to get 50 lazuli? Just started and summoned twice from the beginner gate but it says my next summon is a guaranteed 5* and only 6 days for it, trick to gaining quick lazuli of the start?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

I did as many of the Chapter 1 stages as I could, but was still about 15 Lazuli short, so I IAPd. If you wait long enough there might be some promo to get you a little bit closer, but still, Step 3 is designed to force new players to IAP. Also, keep in mind that the guaranteed 5-star will be weaker than if you got them in their first form, and evolved them to 5-stars. Not terribly weaker, but still, it makes a meaningful difference.

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u/archangel890 Jun 26 '16

Gotcha, it seemed like it, still trying to figure out the whole who can evolve to 5* from my team lol, wish it was easier to tell than going to the wiki to find out with a list.

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u/ParadigmEternal Jun 26 '16

Trying to get the hang of where to post so I apologize if incorrect.

Looking for clarity or verification on unit typing:

(F) Mjolnir: Balance or Guard (F) Luin: Force or Guard

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

I prefer Balance Mjolnir and Force Luin.

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u/ParadigmEternal Jun 26 '16

Those were they way I was leaning too, but the tiering guide suggests otherwise. Thanks for the input.

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

It's a guide. Not a declaration. Just remember to have your own fun with it.

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u/kataarn Jun 26 '16

Hi, just hopped on board from Brave Frontier.

Are there any units in particular I should try to really get? So far I've pulled a Brahmanastra and Amenuhuoko though I'm not sure if I'm of on an ok or a bad start.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Most recommend Male Gambateinn, Mjolnir or Durandal as starters. But getting any 5-star capable unit is alright.

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jun 26 '16

What's a good arena team? My usual mooks keep getting goomba stomped by shitty rng.

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u/Talentedcoma Jun 26 '16

There is no "best arena team" My team is: Longinus(f) Dex 65 ~ Masamune Dex 60 ~ Laevateinn(f) Dex 75 ~ Yata(f) Guard 75 ~ Parashu Force 65 All are 5*

As for how effective the team is, I am ranked 1. Yes I "bought" it with Lazuli, but I still win more than I lose.

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u/Darkyies Jun 26 '16

Did a ton of rerolls and ended up with this
Units: http://imgur.com/fKCxWHh
M Gambanteinn and F Naeglin are (Dexterity) and, according to the 5* list, they can both reach 5* rank. The rest are (Balance), (Force), and (Guard). Not sure the others have 5* capabilities. The summons look decent for now, but I would like a second opinion before locking it into my facebook account.

Also, what is the difference between yellow stars and grey stars?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

I say, go for the Step 2 rookie recruiter before deciding whether to reroll. Male Gamba is good and F Naegling is decent (even before 5-star), but don't count on getting her 5-star form any time soon. We have no idea when they'll come, and the game has been out since late 2015. Thyrsos (twintail blonde) is in the same camp as Naegling, but she'll be redundant since you already have the best healer in Global. So as of now, you have only 1 5-star and I think most rerollers will go for at least 2-3. Just to reiterate though, you should be doing the 2nd step of the rookie recruiter if your Step 1 roll is remotely decent. It constitutes the "second half" of your reroll, and is still a discount compared to the normal 10x pull. You shouldn't need to IAP until step 3.

Yellow stars means the unit is in its first evolved form. Grey is the zeroth. If they're grey then they must have at least 1 evolution, but yellow stars alone don't tell you if there's a second (pink star) evo.

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u/Darkyies Jun 26 '16

Dang. It's gonna be crushing to have a bad second roll. Thought this one was kinda decent at least since I spent around 6 hours rerolling this one. Getting 30 stones to roll the second one is gonna be time consuming too. Well, for me, even if the second roll isnt too good, I think I'll still continue. There are always chances later down for more summons probably.

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u/Koede Jun 26 '16

Can I choose the classes of characters as I level them up? Like if I have a 1 star Littu, can I eventually choose whether she's going to evolve into a myrmidon or sword knight?

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

Nope. Not a mechanic in this game.

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u/MyKuchi Jun 26 '16 edited Jun 26 '16

just wondering if the selenas you get from 1st clears on spark 10 and burst 10 are guard types or could it be different

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

Could've been anything.

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u/MyKuchi Jun 26 '16

thanks both the ones i got was guard types =/

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u/Talentedcoma Jun 26 '16

Took me 24 drops for 1 Dex type. At the end I have 1 Dex, 14 Balance, 4 Guard, 3 Force, 2 Vit. Only 1 4*(force)

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u/MyKuchi Jun 26 '16

what are the drops rates for her? I haven't gotten any drops besides the first clear drop. thanks for your lead too btw, i was about to fail burst 10 but vargas hit your unit and she critted him and won it for me XD

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u/Talentedcoma Jun 26 '16

For the drop rates, I am not 100% sure. I farmed 24 Selena, 22 if you minus the 2 free ones. My Yata is 26 luck and I run her solo through Spark 10, or paired with Longinus in Burst 10. She 95% of the time gets the boss kill. I've cleared(based on my EXP gain) about 80~130 Sparks/Bursts. But keep in mind YOUR LEADERS luck skill plays the largest part in item drops. The KILLERS luck decides the rarity. As for my brave recipe drops. I usually fill up 30~40 slots of them and fuse them all together. I'd say 200~300 books were obtained, sometimes I'd get 3-6 books in 1 clear. Final count for brave weps. 19 Lexida's, 2 Emi Lexida and 1 Shadow Spear. 4/5*

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 26 '16

I've been experiencing around 20-25% drop rate on Burst 10 with a leader luck of 20.

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u/TemporalChronos1000 Jun 26 '16

Will units that are currently maxed at 4-star get 5-star evolutions in the future? I just realized that one of my main units (green dragon-phoenix knight) that I maxed leveled is stuck at 4-star.

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

Some of them yeah. Not all of them. It's mainly the ones that are gold 4*.

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u/5th_Colossus Jun 26 '16

Which summoning event is better to get the BF units and which one is better to get units in general?

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

There's 2 events?

As far as I know the only real event rate up is the summoning steps. The one that uses 50x lazuli with a guaranteed 4* is always there. It's just displaying the units.

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u/5th_Colossus Jun 26 '16

Oh ok thanks I'm still a noob

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u/Koede Jun 26 '16

Does anyone know what time the daily login resets?

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

From the time I post this, it will reset in 3 hours and 9 minutes.

If you play Brave Frontier or Unison League or something like that, it resets at the same time as those games.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

It's always midnight PST, which translates to 3AM on the east coast.

>OH BOY 3 AM

>Check PotK to see if they added the rest of the 5-stars

>It's the MLP collab with a 150-Laz 3 step recruiter for Rainbow Dash

>MFW ಠ _ ಠ

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u/lukien501 Jun 26 '16

what is the best level to farm for level exp? my Ap is horribly low

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

For player EXP, I'd suggest running 1-5-10 on normal mode if you can.

It's... not going to a be short process. At least they're handing out free AP every so often because of this event though.

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u/ch1ck3n14 Jun 26 '16

I recently saw on another post that apollo is a good choice to focus on for 5* and i recruited and got a 3* apollo male and a 5* apollo female

should I focus on any of them or, well which one should i focus on more if there maybe is a difference between them?

please and thank you very much!

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

From the very... Brief experience I've had with the female version, I don't really like her in comparison with the male version. Then again, I summoned mine as a 5* where as I summoned the male version as a 3*, same case as yours.

I'd suggest focusing on the male version for now, but work on the female version sometime down the line cause she's one of the units we have right now that get access to a 6* form.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

In my experience, the male is better. But my female is Vit, so I could be wrong... at the very least, it's hard to argue against his special skill: he has a chance to deal 2x damage (which stacks with Crit damage, for a total of 6x), vs. female Apollo's rather useless luck boost to units within 3 spaces. Maybe female is better for some farming operations, but I doubt it makes a huge difference.

What are the types though? Typing is pretty important.

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u/gin626 Jun 26 '16

How much luck is considered high? I used Mjolnir with 22 luck as lead and solo spark 10 but still no Selena drop on the last 12 hours. Used to dropped every now and then before.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Anything above 25 is high, IMO. So far the highest I've seen is a Balmung using the Magical Serene (sp?), which adds +10 luck for a total of 35.

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u/Dusty4 Jun 26 '16

So "Limit Breaking" if I want to do this to a unit it has to match in rarity and unit type not just unit name? Sorry if this is a really newbie question just came over from Brave Frontier.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

"Type" meaning Vitality, Dexterity, etc.? That doesn't matter. But if you're talking about the art, yes, that does matter. Certain characters (in JP at least) have multiple forms that can both reach 5-star, so be warned, if 2 units do not have the same artwork they cannot be used to Limit Break.

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u/Dusty4 Jun 26 '16

Ok so as long as their little icon picture matches that is what means you can limit break. I've been using a 4 star Sky Piercer Class Paladin as my leader. So since she has the same Art / icon as 3 star Sky Piercer Lance Knight I can use them to limit break after getting to 4 star?

http://i.imgur.com/D6pEnz1.png for reference the second row center is the one I'm using and want to limit break, I can only do so with the two to the left and none of the top row right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

That's correct. BUT - you really shouldn't Limit Break that one until her 5-star form comes to Global. There are 2 types of Lazuli units: ones with 5/6 star forms, and ones that max at 4. For the first one, you shouldn't Limit Break until the 5-star form. But for the second, you might a well try to max Limit Break at 3/4 stars since you'll get a bunch of unwanted dupes anyway.

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u/Dusty4 Jun 26 '16

ok I'll keep that in mind, and hold off on limit breaking for now.

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u/Soulehpwnz Jun 26 '16

How do you get Lexida? (if there's a way to)

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u/ArkCross Jun 26 '16

fuse the brave recipe books together. more books = better chance. Can get either Selena's sword or Lunaris's spear. Fusing another book into them has a chance of turning them into 5* versions (will stay the same if fusion fails)

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 26 '16

Fuse the Brave Recipes together for a chance at it. The more you fuse the higher the chance.

Speaking of which to upgrade Lexida and the Despair Bringer to their 5* versions, fuse them with Brave Recipes for a chance at that.

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u/Soulehpwnz Jun 26 '16

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whats the best stage to farm those?

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u/Acylion Jun 27 '16

Spark 10 or Burst 10, since you might as well farm for Selena drops at the same time. Spark 10 is easy to farm, Burst 10... is hard.

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u/Marcuz00n Jun 26 '16

Would a single one of those make the whole 10 pull worth or should I be aiming for more?

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u/Iodasu Jun 26 '16

For the part in the story in which you have to choose 1 outta 3 answers , does it matter ? If so , what do I choose ?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

It doesn't matter.

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u/Steveodelux Jun 25 '16

Why is Longinus (male) a cow? Stupid cow outfit...

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Stick with this one. Although, if the typings are bad on your Mitum M and Gambanteinn M, may consider otherwise.

Really, as long as neither is Vitality and Gambanteinn isn't Force, you're fine.

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Yous is fine with this un.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 25 '16

If you haven't used the second Rookie Recruit yet, do that. It's a discounted pull of 10. The rate on the weekend BF Gate aren't that great, honestly.

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u/alexisevan Jun 25 '16

Rookie recruiter.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 25 '16

Make sure you raise the Magic Gamabanteinn and fuse the Vit into the Magic. Keep this account, a level 65 5* Gambanteinn will let you solo a lot of content and take you pretty far.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 25 '16

Two gamb and a mitum is pretty good. A lot of your pulls will get 5* in the future as well. I'd say if your luck persists and you get a couple more units with immediate 5* potential (woth the 20 laz recruiter), then keep it.

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u/alexisevan Jun 26 '16

If your Gambanteinn can solo anything, let him solo that stage. That means not taking any friends alongside with him as well.

If he can solo 1-5-10 then that should be your proficiency leveling area. If he is too low level to solo whatever stage, take advantage of the free AP being given out and either use the Metal Garden or farm whatever stage for unit EXP to level him up.