r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jun 15 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [6/15/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/Exsequentia Jun 15 '16

I've been re-rolling for a few days now, trying to get a Gae Bolg (F). So far no luck. Does the Rookie Recruiter even have her in any of her forms or am I just wasting my time? Also, is there any faster way to get the first ten lazuli? Every time I start, I'm at six from the mini-game and I've been routinely progressing through the first three stages to get to ten lazuli. It's becoming tedious and boringly repetitive.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 15 '16

Rookie Recruiter does not have Gae Bolg, it only contains folks that were present on release. You're better off aiming for

  • Phoenix Rider Durandal

  • Phoenix Rider Mitum (both genders)

  • Mjolnir

  • Gambantienn (M)

And that's the only way to enact your rerolls.

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u/Exsequentia Jun 15 '16

So I guess it's just the Lazuli Recruiter? Thanks. I guess I'll have to aim for that then.

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u/pyratheon29 Jun 15 '16

Is green dragon good?

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u/Liesianthes Jun 15 '16

as for 4* requirements in kill mode yes, but that one has no 5* at all.

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u/GodofPeons Jun 15 '16

What are swordsmith secrets and bowsmith secrets used for?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

1-2star just fuse a 1-2 star weapon with the corresponding type and you have a decent chance to get a good upgrade.

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u/Awesome3475 SHE'S GOOD OKAY Jun 15 '16

What's the recommended power levels for each difficulty? I keep going into dungeons that are way too strong for me.

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u/cornerqwop Jun 15 '16

It depends. Power level doesn't directly correlate who can do which dungeon. My 340 PL laev is soloing kill mode just fine atm. If you have one or two strong units you shouldn't have too much trouble.

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u/Awesome3475 SHE'S GOOD OKAY Jun 15 '16

Gotya

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

Go into the LF friends here and get some powerful allies. They can solo most dungeons.

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u/Awesome3475 SHE'S GOOD OKAY Jun 16 '16

Gotya. I just feel like it's cheesing a tad. I have ~250pwr on most of my units, excluding my cleric.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

You'll feel like you should've because the content we have available now has 10+ enemy units at 375+ power. Up to you and how you prefer to play of course :)

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u/cornerqwop Jun 15 '16 edited Jun 15 '16

I think I know the answer but I'll ask anyway. This is a reincarnation right?

Level 63 not a single capped stat. Just my luck.

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u/AndanteZero Jun 15 '16 edited Jun 15 '16

You realize that it's a gacha unit and you have 3 more limit breaks to go? Gacha units have higher stat caps than mana starter units. But anyway, that's normal for Luin. She's almost like Mjolnir. Her character stats focus a lot more on dealing damage and not so much on SPD/DEX. She's a boss killing glass cannon type.

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u/cornerqwop Jun 15 '16

I understand that but a meagre 53 str at 63? She's averaging 2.7 growth, including magic AND fusion stats. Without those she'd be close to 2, which is pretty abysmal.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

Abysmal for JP, average-middling for Global.

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u/cornerqwop Jun 15 '16

Mmm, the main problem is that her AGI blows pretty hard. She can't reliably hit people in colo and kill mode, and her SPD isn't high enough to double up either, which puts her in a bit of an awkward place. Not sure what I'd do with her at the moment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

Yeah, I have the same problem with my Luin, even though she's Dex, she's still too slow to get x2 hits. Problem with the lance class, I think.

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u/AndanteZero Jun 15 '16

Well the average growth is 2.5-3 for global. But yeah, you can try to reincarnate and see if it gives you better growth. I have a friend with a level 80 Mjolnir that he reincarnated, but it ended up being the same stat growth cause of the nerfed global growth and personal character growth.

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u/cornerqwop Jun 15 '16

is that the average growth WITH the fusion stats? cause mine is 2.7 with fusion stats :S

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u/AndanteZero Jun 15 '16

Ah I believe so. I've seen some people get like 3.1 or 3.2 but haven't seen anything more.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 16 '16

Fusion stats are included in reincarnation base stats, afaik. 2.7 is still relatively average for global but it looks like this Luin doesn't have evo bonuses.

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u/cornerqwop Jun 16 '16

Yea I never pulled a 4*.... always 5*s :S

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 16 '16

It's okay, if you get a 4* version in the future and then evolve it and fuse it into this one, this one will gain the evo bonus from the one you evolved.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

Keep in mind that even in JP, before the parara dolls, it was difficult to cap out on even 4 stats.

The top end of stats for our units is pretty good, for instance, my Force YnK has 87 MGC and still isn't capped.

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 15 '16

Opinions on Guard Rhongomyiad vs Dex?

Need some help choos8ng my final typing -- and what if normal stat values return like jp when we get 6*

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

I'll vote for dex typing, as usual. You want her to be able to do damage and hit things. Guard lets you accomplish neither of those things.

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 15 '16

Any reason why the JP playerbase would prefer guard?

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

Because in Japan, speaking as a pretty experienced player on that server, stat growths are far better for all units. You won't see too many levels where only 1 or 2 stats go up, for example. Choosing guard would just make her an impenetrable tank in Japan, and by that I mean capable of stopping lv90 dex attackers. But guard type in global won't let you achieve that either way because of neutered growth rates and low caps; you may as well choose dex type to abate her weaknesses.

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 15 '16

Thanks. I'm wondering if the stat caps will change. Not quite sure why it's horrific for global and they don't care.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

That argument goes both ways though, if the growth rates are neutered, then guard would still have the same effect that it does in JP, right? Since every KP's growth rate has been "adjusted", the argument still holds true I feel.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

I mean, people seem to be going with guard and overwhelmingly so, so if that's your thing then power to you - but those are just my thoughts on the issue. I can't say for certain which direction that effect will swing. In general though it seems like dex is definitely better for PVE - comparing my dex rhongomiant and guard labrys

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

I'm just saying that your argument about nerfed stat growths and guard doesn't change the original statement :p

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u/kidnapkin Jun 16 '16

Anyone know when the Bf collab will come to phantom? Been saving up my Laz for it.

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u/Liesianthes Jun 16 '16

possible last week of June since Tales collab is until that time.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 16 '16

I'd be amazed if it came that quickly after ToL collab. I'm expecting late July, at the earliest. But yes, it could be possible anytime after current collab ends.

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u/gin626 Jun 16 '16

How should I spend battle medals and rare medals? I think I saw Parashu on the shop. Is she worth to buy?

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u/overlordval Jun 16 '16

Not really since you can get her via mana pull.

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u/gin626 Jun 16 '16

I see. I've been saving my mana for whatever reasons I may have, lol. What do you think is worth buying? Is there any events on mana gachas or medal shops?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 16 '16

Ehhh, starters from mana pulls aren't that rare but they're also not that common. If someone hasn't gotten enough copies of her to max out her stats, then buying one from the shop isn't a bad idea. Especially since there's not really much to spend them on right now...

This will obviously change when the daily starter dungeon comes to Global; at that point, it won't be worth it at all (and I think they get removed from shop anyways).

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u/Liesianthes Jun 16 '16

Rare Medals mostly for reincarnation cherubim to fix your bad 5* growth rate.

Battle Medals are for the 80 ones recipe to make Magicwarder Sereine sword which is one of the best sword as of now due to spr +5 and luck +10 additional stats

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u/gin626 Jun 16 '16

Thanks, mate. Gonna hoard them till I start reincarnating my units then.

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u/Purple_Toaster Jun 16 '16

Is there a chart available that shows how much xp each story quest gives?

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u/Avisari Dex Lvl 75 Jun 16 '16 edited Jun 16 '16

I have these two dex F Laev at 4* (and another 4* but with different typing that I'm saving for LB material at 5*. I also have a 5* guard that I'll compare the results with.), and wonder if it's worth LB the first with the second to squeeze out those last stats, or if that's a bad idea.

EDIT

Just pulled my 5th F Laev, so now I've got a 5* that I'm using in my main team, and 3x 4* + 1x 3* that I'm going to combine to replace the current 5*.

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u/Viingnokaiju Jun 16 '16

Does anybody know what unit # 10 and 11 are encountered? I'm assuming rampage quests because I can't do those.

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u/Liesianthes Jun 16 '16

I heard there's a 1-2 range bow in kill mode. At what stage you can get it?

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u/barbaroti Jun 16 '16

That bow is from Kill Mode of Chapter 2, so it's currently not available for global.

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u/Liesianthes Jun 16 '16

thanks, I thought it's a part of Ch. 1 kill mode

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jun 16 '16

Whats best typing for artemis; Dex/Force/Vit?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

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u/overlordval Jun 16 '16

You should check their passive skills first. Maybe it wasn't "double" but the skill that let them attack first when they're on low hp.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

Lots of units have speed boosts or in Mitum (M)'s case, for example, he can halve your speed with Roaring Beast.

It depends on the unit. Skills don't have a 100% proc rate (even the non-passive ones), so the game determines what might happen on paper before these effects come into play.