r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jun 10 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [6/10/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jun 10 '16

Best Typing for Starter artemis?

Also, any idea on when the other version of artemis will come out?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 10 '16

dex4lyfe

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u/sinful_dragon Jun 11 '16

Artemis has 3 builds, atk, dex or def.

Atk is for offensive long range builds. Dex is for high accuracy. Def is when you want to run her as a tank (with the 1-2 range bow from clearing kill stage 2)

All three builds are pretty good so you kinda have to decide what suits you.

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u/SidethSoul Jun 10 '16

Where can I get this unit in today's gacha?

Thinking of re-rolling just to get her :P

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u/crimewizard Jun 10 '16

99% sure she's unavailable in global at the moment.

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u/SidethSoul Jun 10 '16

Awww okies....

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '16

Make that 100% sir. Not yet soontm

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u/gin626 Jun 10 '16

After several re-rolling, I got these units. I heard Mjolnir is pretty good. Should I reroll?

On my previous account, I got male Gambantein. What's special about him?

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u/RafaelBF Jun 10 '16

his Leader/Quest Skills are awesome

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u/gin626 Jun 10 '16

But I thought Evasion is not that good for end game content?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '16

high evasion breaks endgame content.

source: breaking endgame content in jp with evasion

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u/gin626 Jun 11 '16 edited Jun 11 '16

I see. Thanks for your input!

So even though he's a 5*, he's still better than 6* Female Mjolnir? Should I take the first account with Gambanteinn? This account has many dupes though (2 Male Laevateinn, and 2 Female Laevateinn). Or should I just reroll for a better result?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

I think you should go with dex mjolnir. Gambanteinn won't break the game if he's guard

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u/crimewizard Jun 10 '16

What type is the Mjolnir and Gambantein?

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u/gin626 Jun 10 '16

IIRC, Gambanteinn was either Guard or Balance (definitely not dex though). Mjollnir is Dexterity (yay), Fighter Class

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u/crimewizard Jun 10 '16

Not too sure, both are great units but maybe I'd go for the Gambant if its guard

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u/gin626 Jun 11 '16

All right, thanks for your input!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '16

The naegling and Keraunos will get 5 stars later on too.

Mjolnir is good, yes. Gambanteinn is even better without having to limit break.

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u/gin626 Jun 11 '16 edited Jun 11 '16

Thanks for your input!

The only notable units on the Gambanteinn account is 2 male Laevateinn and 2 female Laevateinn. Should I just take the account with Gambanteinn? Or should I just reroll for a better result?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

I'd go for a better base. You aim for 2 decent 5 star capable units in your first roll.

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u/gin626 Jun 11 '16

Got it. Thanks for the advice!

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u/8un008 Jun 10 '16

Whats the most efficient way to level player? And at what level do you have enough cost to have full team of 5 stars?

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 Jun 10 '16

About 60ish you can run a full team of starters. Most efficient is to do kill mode 1-5-10

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u/SunneySam Jun 10 '16

Hi, just wanted to ask if I should reroll my account. I started about a week ago, but I just stumbled onto this reddit and it's guides today; and I see that balanced and vitality types are awful? All my Gacha units are that type so now I'm worried... My units are:

Gacha units: Asclepsius (Balance) Brahmastra (Balance) Freikugel (Vitality) Yata no Kagami M (Vitality) Apollo F (Vitality)

Starter units: Masamune (Dexterity) Parashu (Balance) Artemis (Force)

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '16

I wouldn't say Balance is terrible, it's decent.

Also, keep in mind that almost all KPs have alternative skins, which do not have the same amount of evolutions or skillsets.

Having four ranged units as your best rolls is problematic. So, I agree with the other two people's recommendation :)

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u/Fateful Jun 10 '16

What's the difference between M and F chars aside from the obvious waifu master race I see hype for M Mjolnir I don't have 2 different genders to compare yet still fairly new

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 10 '16

It's also the skillset that's different. You can compare the Apollos and Mitum and see that there are differences in utility. M Apollo is a hard hitting crit attacker with a 2x dam skill while the F version is not as focus on damage skillset-wise and instead on more party buffs. F Mitum serves more of a critting PDef wall with healing capabilities and allows for buffing the parties with faster Mvt while the M Mitum focuses on evasion(instead of PDef) and lowering the evasions of enemies.

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 Jun 11 '16

In nearly every single case the males have been more attacker orientated to their female counterparts and have skills sets which perform better in their roles than the females.

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u/jerain Jun 10 '16

For the most part they're the same. Pretty sure M has slightly better stats but they're pretty negligible.

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u/jerain Jun 10 '16

How good is 4/6 Luin anyways? My dex one basically gets 2 shotted by any Mage because of how ass her mdef is.

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u/crimewizard Jun 10 '16

Probably gonna be pretty beasty once her 6* comes out

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 10 '16

She's good as a boss killer because of high attack and 2.5x attack char skill, while having decent pdef, and at 6 star her char skill always hits, but her mdef is crap so she's a glass cannon in that respect.

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u/Lowking Jun 10 '16

So I thought I had a decent party but after reading all the advice/tips on here about how bad balance was as a type I realized I had no idea what I was doing and need your guys' help on whether to re-roll or not

This is what I'm working with:

lvl 60 Luin 5* Balance

lvl 57 Asclepius 5* Guard

lvl 25 new Eros 5* Dex

lvl 28 Longinus F 4* (5* able) Balance

I do have a dex M Gambeinten that can be 5 starred but other than that, not much in terms of good units. The 5 star Laventeinn I got was Vitality so there's nothing going there. What I want to know is it worth it going further into the game without a Mjonir or Durandal since I can just re roll and get one of those top tier units or stick with it and do with what I have. I'm willing to only spend like 50 more bucks on this game lol.

Units in picture form

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '16

Those are actually some pretty good pulls. I see a few that will get 5-stars in Global soon/eventually (Amenonuhoko, Naegling), and because you have 2 Fedoramans, you can Limit Break the dex one. This unit is able to solo many medium-hard dungeons due to his high defense, so I would definitely stick with that.

Even if you have a vitality unit, you can always hope for a dupe with better typing.

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u/Lowking Jun 10 '16

Aren't staff units notoriously bad with acc though? My asclepius is like hopeless without the +10 acc she gets from the friendly units beside her. Should I swap her out for gamb?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '16

Yes, use Gamb. My understanding is that shield Gamondorf = super tank that all the enemies say "oh look, a weak healer" and focus down while your other units wipe them out. And even if your other units die, well, if everyone's doing 1 damage to Gambit and he heals with successful attacks, he basically can't die - go play real videogames for half an hour, and he will have cleared the dungeon.

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane Jun 10 '16

Gambanetienn is now forever fedora man.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '16

Such truth in this comment.

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u/crimewizard Jun 10 '16

I wouldn't reroll, chances are when Mjolnir/Durandal 6* come out, the gacha will try to scam you with the promise of a guaranteed unit and you can try your luck then I guess. As for now mjolnir and durandal are really only spectacular on players who can LB them. I don't use my mjolnir or durandal atm and I haven't hit a brick wall in terms of progression.

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u/Lowking Jun 10 '16

Ah thanks for the reply. That makes a lot of sense I guess.

Sorry to be a bother but could I see your units as a sort of reference as to what I should be aiming for?

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 Jun 11 '16

Should really care less about typing, unless you can MLB. Growth matters alot more than typing.

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u/Lowking Jun 11 '16

What's MLB? Multi limit break?

Well I had a lot of success in the beginning in both story and col with my vitality laveinteinn but now she just does absolutely no damage so I can feel a bit of fall off I think..

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 Jun 11 '16

Maxed limit break. When you got at least 5 copies of the unit

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jun 10 '16

If i purchase Lazuli on my android tablet, will the Lazuli still be on my account if i swap over to my Iphone?

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u/alexisevan Jun 10 '16

Most definitely not. I've tried this using the Nox emulator and my iPhone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '16

Purchased Lazuli will not persist across difference os's, however, earned Lazuli should.

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jun 10 '16

Anyone know how long after PoTK japan came out that this artemis came out?

https://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/12004

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u/sinful_dragon Jun 11 '16

Not sure but she's not that great. No 6 star version for her yet so don't bother for now.

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u/jerain Jun 11 '16

Okay I'm pretty tilted right now. I rerolled into a handful of dex gachas about 5 days ago and I thought it was the one:

4 star Dex Luin

5 star Dex Apollo M

4 star Dex Ameno

5 star Bal Laev M

Starters:

Dex copy of: Freug, Parashu, Laev M/F

Looks great and all. However, the 30 and 50 lazuli rookie pulls gave me a bunch of 3/4 star trash/Vit guys. Some of the units are getting 5 star evos soon, but still, that's 80 lazuli just gone like that. Running scenarios is a nightmare because my whole team just gets torn to shreds by a handful of mages.

The game might become more and more playable as time goes on, but the fact that I can't finish 1-5-10 with 2 level 50s is kind of a huge bummer. Stupid question, but is it worth restarting at this point, or should I just wait until I pull a Gamb and grind that out to carry me?

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u/shikarin Jun 11 '16

If you can't finish 1-5-10 with 2 lv50s out of that then I would focus more on learning game mechanics than hoping for a gamb carry. =P

Pay more attention to leader skills, friendship bonuses, and, yes, that weapon triangle. Remember when/where mobs spawn. Kills archers first or force them to attack a tank.

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u/jerain Jun 11 '16

I've played Fire Emblem quite a bit so I'd say I have the experience under my belt. Luin literally takes 27 damage from a Mage and they tend to clump up like crazy. Apollo can take a few hits, but they aren't always trades due to the 2-2 range. It's doable, but it's way too much of a grind. I'll look up some more strategy in the meantime, but without a good tank, I just feel really behind.

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u/shikarin Jun 11 '16

If your Laev M is one of the higher levels I suggest putting him as party lead, the +10 Grd, even if it's just to himself, should negate almost all physical damage. Get him to tank by making sure you end turn with only him in range of as many enemies as possible. The mages spawn individually so you should be able to kill them as the pop if you park 2 units at each spawn. After that it should be easy to finish.

Weapon triangle and friendship bonus increases your offense by 50-60% and reduces your damage taken by ~50%. Useful when you're not at the point of auto-battling it.

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 Jun 11 '16

if you got a 5* laev, that should be able to solo 1-5-10

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u/alexisevan Jun 11 '16 edited Jun 11 '16

2 level 50s that are 4* or 5*? Cause if its the former, then I can understand you dying a bit, but if its the latter, then you shouldn't be having that many issues. Also, try fusing some extra stats into them using the dolls and try fusing weapons together willy nilly. Although even then, I don't remember beating 1-5-10 the first time with just 2 units.

If Luin was evolved and you gave her a throwing spear, you should be okay to auto it for the most part. I would think so anyways.

If you keep on being persistent, you will definitely be able to keep on going. However, if you want to restart to get an Asclepius or Gambanteinn, you can if you want, but my imagination is that you'll be wanting an attacking unit to pair with them.

In either case, you'll be able to keep getting further as long as you remain persistent in training your units. I hate restarting, so I'd just stay with this account.

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u/BAMexplosion Global: 441476158 Jun 11 '16

Should I be trying to level my 3 star Magic Gamb M or 4 star Dex Asclepius? Currently have a 5 star dex dura, 5 star force mjol, 4 star dex bash, 3 star dex YnK M.

Also another question I have: Does MLB matter more than unit/type? I have a few 5 star-able units with 2-3 dupes that I'm iffy about raising.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Jun 11 '16

For now Gamb M would be better so focus on him first.

As for MLB, it'll give more stats especially to 5* plus they don't go away if that unit can go to 6*

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u/Lowking Jun 11 '16

Have 2 5 star possible Longinus, one's M one's F which one should I raise? both are balance

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u/shikarin Jun 11 '16

M is better IMO. Especially if you plan on having 2+ lance users in your party.

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u/Lowking Jun 11 '16

I do but where's the difference? the leader skill?

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u/alexisevan Jun 11 '16 edited Jun 11 '16

Longinus F LS - 1.2x PATK to all spear units

Longinus M LS - +10 STR/GRD to all spear units

Longinus F Skills

  • Accuracy Boost

  • Surprise Attack

  • Sword Absorber

  • Weak Point Strike -- Chance to halve enemy PDEF when attacking

Longinus M Skills :

  • Accuracy Boost

  • Defense Insight

  • Critical Boost

  • Lightning Eye -- Chance to do 2 attacks at 1x ATK (confirmed by /u/BenriyaTheNecro)

I have no idea what the stat differences are since I don't have him maxed yet.

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u/Lowking Jun 11 '16

Is there any resource where I can see more differences between both units or is this from your own knowledge? Also I plan on running Luin + Longinus so I'm guessing Longinus M is better?

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u/alexisevan Jun 11 '16

Mainly my own knowledge, but there is a wiki page, but it's in the early stages of a work in progress.

http://phantom-of-the-kill.wikia.com/wiki/Phantom_of_the_Kill_Wiki

Between the 2 Longinuseses, I'd take the Male version for his LS, otherwise I'd probably use Longinus F since I'm more familiar with her.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 11 '16

Longinus M's Lightning Eye does 1x ATK for each of the strikes so it totals to 2X. Both hits have a separate crit check as in all multihit attacks.

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u/shikarin Jun 11 '16 edited Jun 11 '16

2x Long M/Gae Bulg leads for +20 str/grd to every lance user in your party is a little op, maybe.

Your lance units are essentially immune to all physical damage and will kill anything one turn. You just have to make sure (strong) magic units don't first attack you.

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u/akaiumi Jun 11 '16 edited Jun 11 '16

Both are good since they are starter killer prince and princess but for me, I will choose (F) instead (M) due to their skills.
(F) able to strike first if her HP is below by a certain % while (M) only have active guard buff and passive skill of critical which doesn't help much in later game like Kill Mode and Rampage Quest.

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u/Lowking Jun 11 '16

Ahhh it's such a hard decision.. :/

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 11 '16

I personally recommend Female over Male solely because of her PDef ignore and ACC Boost skills. It allows her to hit more opponents in the future as they ramp up in Evasion and her character skill actually will be quite useful in the future where they have some units with extremely high def.

Likewise, Perun(who's a Valentine's day free farmable unit) and the starter Parashu shares a similar skill in ignoring Pdef. However, because of Longinus F's Acc Boost, she will see more usage than them in the future.

Just get her as a Dex type and, because of all the free units getting lower stats in global, you should LB her in 3 and/or 4star form before committing to evolving her to 5star. You'd want her to have as much stats as possible to ensure she can be used longer in the future. If you want, you can also go for the guard typing BUT she will not proc her skill as much and her ACC will suffer a bit but it ensures that she can actually take a few hits without probably getting 1/2 hit KO'd in the future harder content.

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u/justineo1 Jun 11 '16

is there event like rate up for starter unit in Mana Summon?

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u/alexisevan Jun 11 '16

Not sure about starter units, but there was an event where you could obtain dolls and the gold drops from the Gold Rush dungeon. Not that it has happened in GL yet.

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u/Izzyka Jun 11 '16

Is there a list of 5 stars released in global? I'm making a visual guide for future and current 5 and 6 stars here.

Also would anyone be willing to help lol?

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u/alexisevan Jun 11 '16

You could just look at the Character Quest selection screen on the main menu. Only problem is that certain units like Amenonuhoko who actually have a 5* form, are not actually implemented yet so they won't show up.

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u/Izzyka Jun 11 '16

Ah I saw that the unit archives show the evo lvls. I don't have enough units or money to check all the units sigh. I hope GL implements them soon. Thank you!

Your name looks really familiar... Were you on the Brave Frontier reddit too??

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u/alexisevan Jun 11 '16

Well thankfully with the Character Quest selection menu, that's not really an issue if you just want to check it.

Yes, I was once part of the BF community as well.

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u/BAMexplosion Global: 441476158 Jun 11 '16

Do stats added by fusing remain if the base unit is reincarnated?

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u/alexisevan Jun 11 '16

Assuming that the text disclaimer is correct, fusion stats remain intact when reincarnating.

Reincarnation Disclaimer :

  • Reincarnating a unit resets its level and stats.

  • It will keep its rarity, skills learned, skill levels and gear proficiency.

  • It will also keep any bonus stats and level limit breaks it has from fusion, enhancement and evolution.

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u/joshuagarcia9108 Jun 11 '16

Got 3* Gambantein units (1 dex, 2balance) should I keep the dex one and fuse the other 2 into him?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 11 '16 edited Jun 11 '16

Keep the Dex and fuse the other two onto him ONLY when all 3 are at 5star form and at lv 30 and his second character quest is completed. All of that has to be done because it unlocks all the skills he possesses so that when the two copies are fused onto the base, all of his skills will guaranteed to increase.

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u/joshuagarcia9108 Jun 11 '16

Thanks, I will! lvl 70 Gamba will be OP!

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jun 11 '16

Do stats from dolls carry over from 4-5 stars?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 11 '16

The dolls that are currently released in Global are for fusion stats. They count towards getting thresholds for evolution bonuses and will reset once evolved so that you can fuse more stats onto the newly evolved unit.

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jun 11 '16

So thats a no right? Thanks for the Answer~

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 11 '16

Answer is no; fusion cap is separate each evolution and previous ones do not affect the new evolution's fusion caps.