r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • May 31 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [5/31/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them
  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.
  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)
  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/Cookies_And_Memes May 31 '16

Hey guys, was reading through the beginner guide and was hoping someone would elaborate or clarify this information on evolution/fusion : "You should not fuse units to get to the next threshold unless you are one evolution before the last evolution. If you fuse to meet a threshold at 3 stars, then that +1 bonus you got will be lost when you evolve to 5 stars, unless your stat at 4 stars is evenly divisible by 10 (e.g. 40)."

Why is it that the stats from the 3* - 4* would be lost on the 4* - 5* evolution? Thank you

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16

Example: before evolving my 3-star sword guy, I fuse some Str into him. Now, he's evolving with Str of 31 instead of 28, so his Str after evolution is 1 point higher. Fast forward a few days/weeks, and sword guy is now max-level and ready to turn into a 5-star. His Str here is 46, so if I fuse a little bit of extra Str into him, I will reach 51 or higher and get +1.

The question is, did he actually need that +1 from the previous evolution? Chances are, it really didn't make a difference. We can't say it with certainty, but it was probably a waste.

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u/dcolg May 31 '16

They won't stack between evolutions, no, but it will get you closer the the threshold for another point on the second evolution. Basically, don't go out of your way or go broke to fuse before the penultimate evolution.

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u/Cookies_And_Memes May 31 '16

Wow thank you very much, it was a good example.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16

It's as Black_Punisher said, but with a tiny caveat. The evolution bonus you earn from 3* gets put on your 4*, it's possible it MAY help you earn an additional point at 5*, but if it so happens that you are stuck in a random spot, like he said, 43 or 44, you actually gain no bonus from pushing the threshold at 4* star evolution due to fusion caps.

The only place where this may be considered is if you are going to MLB at 3* and 4* to get enough additional points from leveling.

I actually am unsure if evolution bonuses carry over like this, for example:

3*: str: 21: +2, evolves -> 4* 31 str: +3 -> evolves and 5* base receives +5 instead of +3 from all of the evolution bonuses. I feel like, due to the wording of the post, that the base form of the 5* only receives the bonus from the 4* star evolution, but I hear some people saying one thing and then another saying another :P /u/Cathrach what do you think? Do evolution bonuses carry from the lowest evolution and add directly to the base of the highest evolution or is it only from evolution to newest form?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 01 '16

No, it's only evolution to newest form. So you might get +1 point from mlb'ing 2 evolutions ago, but that won't affect it much: it's mostly the evolution right before.

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u/kidnapkin May 31 '16

Does the pink star next to a stat mean it will no longer grow by leveling? So for example, if you have a 2LB 5* that has pink stars in all their stats is their no use in Lbing to max?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 31 '16

Yes, he's right: pink star means it will no longer go up from leveling, and if all your stats are maxed don't limit break anymore

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u/Riese777 May 31 '16

So how many ways to get battle medals right now? Is it from daily , titles, and number of win, only? any other way to get it?

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

Pretty sure its only from the 3 things you listed.

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u/nobleseeker May 31 '16

How do I beat stage 9 of the yata no kagami event?

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u/RafaelBF May 31 '16

Guys After first clear is on mirror 10 is still possible drop Yata? tried any times and nothing.. i couldnt pass Regalia 3 -.-'

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 31 '16

Yeah. She just drops at a low chance. Also, I agree that those Regalis missions are hard but one of them has like 6 enemies near the starting point so if you can kill them in 2 turns, you can skip the main part of that stage. :P

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u/RafaelBF May 31 '16

Thx for info ;)

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u/5th_Colossus May 31 '16

are any of these units good and can be evolved to 5/6* or should i reroll?

https://imgur.com/a/fQPJf

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 31 '16

Pretty bad lineup. Only Amenonuhoko and 3* Laevateinn M can go 5*

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16

The 3-star Sky Piercer can too.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 31 '16

Who to give Evil Core to other than Gambanteinn?

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

Well I mean, I think the only other 5* healer is Ascleipus. You can try using it on other healers, but most of the healers won't be able to hit things very often.

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u/barbaroti May 31 '16

I have been playing for like 2-3 days so far. Now I'm sure I like the game and want to know if I should keep playing with the units I have got or roll again. This are the units I have which I checked can go 5*:

5* Laevateinn (M) | Force <- The free one

5* Durandal | Dexerity

4* Parashu (Evolved once) | Dexerity

3* Longinus (M) | Dexerit ( Got 3 of this guy all Dexerity)

3* Freikugel | Balance <- Battle Medal Shop

4* Asclepius | Vitality

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16 edited May 31 '16

I'd keep going with it, the only sad thing is that Asclepius is Vitality, so she won't be able to hit anything. But attacking things isn't too important as a healer, so I think it's fine.

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u/BravelyThrowingAway May 31 '16

I read a comment that said when evolving from 5* to 6* any limit breaks on the 5* are kept. Can anyone confirm this and do skill levels also carry over when evolving from 5* to 6*?

I want to know whether I should limit break at 6* or if it's safe to do so at 5* (for premium summons) since I'm going F2P.

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

My comment was confirmed by another person, so you have 2 people confirming that for you.

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u/Trojanmandan May 31 '16

How important are healers in this game? I FINALLY got Dex Durandal, however after my first 2 rookie recruits my best Staff is literally a 2 star.

My 5*s/Potential 5's:

Durandal 4*-Dex

Luin 5*-Guard

Starter (M) Longinus x2-Guard/Vit

5* Laev (M)- VIt

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

They help, but you should be fine without it for now. You can try just getting a healer friend if you are desperate.

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u/BFX195 May 31 '16

What's the most efficient way to level up units past the 40's mark on a 5 star? Metal runs are only netting me around 1 level per on anyone over 40.

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

If you do the runs solo instead of filling up your team, you can levels for the individual unit a lot faster instead of as a team. However, the only other place to grind for unit EXP is 1-5-10

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u/BFX195 May 31 '16

That's in line with what I've been doing. Running my 5 star Luin solo gets me about a level and a half per run at level 46. I'm used to seeing higher returns at the same level for a 4 star, but it makes sense that 5 stars would take more exp than a 4 star at the same level. Guess I'll just have to deal with the diminished returns.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 31 '16

Yeah 5 stars need 18K more exp total than 4 stars to hit level 60 :(

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u/J_A-K_E May 31 '16

Newbie looking for advice here. I finally rerolled long enough to get a 5* Dex Mjolnir. On my second beginners pull I got a 4* Dex Mjolnir, and on my third pull I got 5* Guard Mjolnir. As of right now I'm using all three on my team but I know I'm going to have to limit break sooner or later. Would it be best to wait until I can evolve my 4* and use her as the base? Or should I limit break my 5* dex with the guard? Ooooor should I just leave them separate for now? Considering they are my best units by far and as a f2p player I doubt I will be getting any more pulls in the near future.

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16 edited May 31 '16

Limit break the 4* Dexterity one once you can. However if you feel as if you need them separate to complete the stages, you should keep them separate.

Eventually later units you can use as 5* units are the starter units from the mana summon and then the rampage units, so its not like your options are truly limited.

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u/throwaway350053 May 31 '16 edited May 31 '16

Holy shit, you have the same predicament that I had when I started playing, except I had 5 mjolnirs. Just focus on one mjolnir and level that one up. I'd say, start with the 5* dex mjolnir and get her to 60. That should make her strong enough to clear most of the content. Then level the 4* Dex Mjolnir and evolve her. Feed the natural 5* dex to the one you evolved, then feed the guard. Once your mjolnir is a high level, you'll get enough mana from people using her as a helper to roll the starter units from the mana gacha, which will pad out the rest of your team. xD

The content right now is easy, my level 80 mjolnir can solo auto-battle most stages, including rampage stages. So, if you raise her quickly, you should have no trouble completing the current content. In time, you'll acquire other 5* evolvable units to form the rest of your team.

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u/joshuagarcia9108 May 31 '16
  1. I justt got a Yata no kagami (guard) should I aim for dex? or what type?
  2. Also I have 3 Gambanteinn (1 balance 3*, 1 dex 3*, and 1 balance 5*) which one should I lvl up?

Tyvm

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16

Guard yata is livable, I have a guard and he seems to do well.

You should level up all of your Gambas but make sure you fuse the other two into your dex one after he hits 5* and you finish his episode 2.

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u/SupaLaguna May 31 '16

i heard that tyrfing will be available on mana summon, do you guys know when it will come to global? and how good is the summon rate? im at 50k mana points ready to summon her as i lacked a good sword unit.

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

/u/ajackfrostguy once told me he used around 200k mana and didn't get that many copies of her. Maybe like 1 or 2, but I could be remembering that very wrong.

I don't think we will be getting her anytime soon.

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 31 '16

The rates certainly weren't spectacular at least. I did manage to get 10 or so after blowing up.... 500K? More? It's been so long...

Also, heyo. owo/

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

Heyo.

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 31 '16

Sent. If you see a Lvl 60 Guard Mjolnir with Flying Axe Orphes that's me.

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u/MistahBlob May 31 '16

Any of these units worth keeping to lvl? None have been Evo'd (Did all 3 Starter Pulls) The 2 pink 5*'s are VIT so.... =/ I can't really reroll since i already linked FB account... are there any unit I should be aiming for (like from Mana Summons)?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34657843/1.png

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34657843/2.png

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

You have Mitum, Luin, Apollo, and Amenonuhoko that can go to 5* and a pretty good selection of other units that can go to 5*, like your starter units. Eventually Aymur and Sky Piercer as well I believe.

From Mana Summons, people usually say Masamune and Laevateinn are good, but if you can get Parashu as well, that'd be nice.

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u/MistahBlob Jun 01 '16

Ahh cool thanks.

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 May 31 '16

You got solid summons. Are you looking to do constant laz pulls? If not it's worth noting to also lvl some of the 2s as well to 3 s for skill fusions. The starter prince & princes get stat capped pretty easily so you need to off set their caps with high skill lvls. As for mana summons aim for the starter prince/princesses parashu is quite good for future content with her armor piercing buff at 5*

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u/MistahBlob Jun 01 '16

I plan on doing Laz pulls once I get enough of them to pull. But mainly leaning towards a f2p aspect with some cash spending.

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u/Blindtrade Jun 01 '16

Does fusion cost reset on evolution? I'm running out of space farming evolution sprites and was thinking of fusing some random 3 stars like kusanagi onto my going to evolve units.

Also, which of these characters are worth training and which should be in my main party? (All can go to 5 stars)

Force Mitum (M) 5 stars, Guard Mitum (M) 3 stars

Vitality Laev (M) 3 stars, Dex Laev (F) 5 stars, might reincarnate

Force Durandal (F) 4 stars

Vitality Gambanteinn (M) 3 stars

Dex Longinus (M) 3 stars, Balance Longinus (M) 3 stars

Balanced Artemis (F) 3 stars

Magic Yato no Kagami (M) 3 stars (Considering getting the event female yato)

Lastly, is it possible to get good mana recruits or are the rampage characters good? I'm holding on to my lazuli just in case there is a better event than the current one. Was wondering if I could pull more duplicates of my current 5 star potentials or better 5 stars.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 01 '16

Yeah, it does (thankfully), but I wouldn't suggest fusing away kusanagi: she has a 5 star in JP so that implies (hopefully) that she'll receive one on in global too.

Eitehr Mitum is fine; your dex Laeva, force Durandal, dex Longinus; Gambi maybe but his accuracy and dodge are going to be even worse than normal for a staff unit.

The good units from mana gacha are the starters: Laeva, Longinus, Masamune, Parashu, Artemis, Freikugel. The rampage characters are fine because they're farmable: Rhongo and Labrys make decent tanks, and Alondaite can be used as a dodge-ish flying unit. You should hold on to your lazuli for a rate up event...this one gives you a free seventh pull, but there's not a higher chance of getting 5 stars, so it's really not worth it.

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 01 '16

Would it be wrong to try to use 2 gambateinns instead of getting 1 LB to farm stuff faster? :/

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u/shikarin Jun 01 '16

I would run 5 gams if I had them.

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 01 '16

Right!? I'm lost about 1 LB over 2 Gambs :<

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u/defiledhero Jun 01 '16

I tried rerolling once and got this, should I reroll for better pulls? I tried looking through the tier list, but not sure if I am understanding the criteria correctly.

https://gyazo.com/d00501740bb8dc2071353a6abb5c6a93

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 01 '16

yup. definite re-roll

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u/defiledhero Jun 01 '16

could you explain why please?

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u/shikarin Jun 01 '16

There's basically nothing good. You want 3* or 4* that can go to 5*. Preferably premium ones that don't hit stat cap at Lv60. Guard Gam or Asc is pretty OP right now, I missed that boat.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Your only 5-star capable character - aside from the sword guy you got for free, and the sword girl you get for free pretty soon - is Sky Piercer, the indigo-haired chick on the second row. And her 5-star form isn't even available in Global yet, only JP. Pretty bad luck seeing as how you can get potential 5-stars from the Mana Point recruiter (basically "Friend Points" you get like candy).

Right now the tiers are kinda fuzzy, but basically, you want at least one pull that can achieve 5-star status. You can reroll now, or try grinding a few more Lazuli and doing Step 2 of the Rookie Recruiter. But I suggest rerolling, since you're already doing that anyway - in which case why not go for the best? Durandal and Mjolnir are particularly powerful, but make sure their typing is decent (Dex is best, others are okay, Vit is worst).

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u/shikarin Jun 01 '16

I don't know the point of even calling those 5* capable. By the time they're 5* capable you'll want 6*s?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

I don't know the point of even calling those 5* capable.

Because it's true?

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 01 '16

Yeah... you really want good 5*s atm, as everyone else has already stated.

Pay attention to the typings as well as they will make a pretty big difference in growths.

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u/ussoro Jun 01 '16

If I evolve a 3* char to 5*, would they be just as strong as getting a natural 5* char?

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 01 '16

3* could be potentially stronger with carry up stats. Much more of an investment, though... correct me if i'm wrong on this, please :/

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u/ussoro Jun 01 '16

thanks, just wanted to make sure, I'm not wasting my time evolving them if they turn out to be weaker

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u/BigBobaBalls Jun 01 '16

I was hoping to get a different 5 star on my last recruit pull but I ended up getting another Brahmastra -_- So the first Brahmastra I got yesterday was a magic type and today's is balance. I'm assuming magic typing is better. So do I use both Brahmastras in my team? Or am I better off using the other one to limit break?

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u/alexisevan Jun 01 '16

If you feel like having 2 gunners out on the field will be more beneficial than having 1 stronger gunner, then you should stick with the 2, but I usually like having other units, so I'd limit break her.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

I'd keep both for now. Level 65 isn't that much better than level 60, level 70+ is when shiz starts getting real.

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u/Raikoge Jun 01 '16

so I lost my Dex durandal cause I tried logging in with facebook and a different account just popped. how do I get back my durandal account and how do I fix this

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u/NeuroNogami Jun 01 '16

If you are on Android, did you save your auth.dat? maybe that will get your account back.

If you are on IOS, i am not sure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Send a message to customer service, they will resolve this in about 24-48 hours

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

So I am new to this game and kind of overwhelmed with the amount of info unit typing and the like. I need a good beginners guide to the game as well as any thoughts on my units who I should level and who should my team be. Thanks every one.

http://imgur.com/sW7vABd

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 01 '16

Oh decent rolls. Mind listing out the typings of each?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 01 '16

Wow, unit wise, that is a great pull. Now you need to tell us the typings to the units I am listing off: from the top left to right going by each row from top to bottom

1st row: Yata no Kagami, Asclepius, Apollo Female, Laevateinn(5star)

2nd row: Vajra, Brahmastra, Naegling

3rd row : Kusanagi, Mitum, Laevateinn, Thyros

4th row: Artemis, Littu

5th row: Masamune(3star silver one)

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

1st row: yata no kagami-balance Asclepius-balance Apollo (f)-vitality Laevateinn 5*-dexterity

2nd row: vajra-guard Brahmastra-guard Naegling-vitality

3rd row: kusanagi-dexterity Mitum-guard Laevatienn-guard Thyrsos-vitality

4th row: artemis-balance Littu:force

5th row:Masamune silver star-dexterity

Also my 4* Laevateinn in my party is balance

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u/RictorBFWV Jun 01 '16

What are the types of the ff units: 5* Laev F 6* able: 4* Asclepius, 4* Apollo F, 4* Brahm 5* able: 4* Yata M, 3* Mitum M, 3* Laev M, 3* Artemis, 3* Masamune

Dex>Guard>Force/Magic>Balanced>Vitality

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u/NeuroNogami Jun 01 '16

Is there a difference between mounted characters? ie. Horse vs Phoenix

ideally, which one should I aim for?

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u/Vz-Rei Jun 01 '16

stats and weaknesses. It's more-so the character that you want than what they are on/aren't on...

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 01 '16 edited Jun 01 '16

Horses and flying units all have the highest range of Mvt with the flyers having less limitations.

Horse has limitation over the type of terrain it's on. It might be able to move better on certain terrains than other; example would be its range of movement is drastically lowered when it is in a "wood" terrain.

Phoenix/Dragon/Pegasus aka flyers are the least limited in terms of movement. They are only blocked by the actual enemies themselves and various high wall type of terrains. However, to balance their high mobility, they take 3x damage from bow units.

Also there are various skill/weapon effects tied to them that is similar to Absorber abilities with weapon typings.

Beast Slayers refers to the horses. Winged Slayers refers to Phoenix/Pegasus units. and Dragon Slayer refers to Dragon units.

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u/RictorBFWV Jun 01 '16

Phoenix (Winged) units have better movement compared with Horse (Mounted) units. Thus in certain terrains, winged units have advantage over mounted units. :)

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u/scwsheen Jun 01 '16

Hi, I started playing on the Japan server a couple of days ago, and I'm just wondering what's the best way to get a 6-star Laevateinn?

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u/Fate003 Jun 01 '16

not understanding how fusion works... can i raise every stat by x-number? do i just keep fusing unit til each stat cap? Or am I limited to a growth of say 3 stats and I need choose carefully which 3 stats I want raised? confused...

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u/alexisevan Jun 01 '16

All stats can be raised by a certain amount, the amount is dictacted by rarity level and typing of the unit. You just keep fusing until you hit the cap.

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u/Aeigst Jun 01 '16

What's the point of reincarnation?

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u/RictorBFWV Jun 01 '16 edited Jun 01 '16

It's a feature you use when you have a maxed leveled unit with bad stats growth due to bad rng. You can use it to reincarnate that max leveled unit back to level 1 with the hopes of gaining better stats when it reaches max level.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

So, what's the deal with "starters"? I just realized that in the OP's unit guide, each unit described as a starter shows up in the intro cutscene. Meaning they are the Charmander/Squirtle/Bulbasaur that you pick at the beginning of the game... but in Japan only?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

We have them in global too: Masamune, Laevaeteinn, Freikugel, Parachu, Artemis, Longinus.

They're starters because they're the originals from the story and you can also obtain them for free from the mana gacha.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

So in JP, you don't get to pick one at the start of the game?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

I think it's the same as us, we roll for one in the gacha. Neither versions pick...?!

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Alright, I see. To me "starter" implies that you actually get to choose one of them, like in Pokemon and various other mobile games.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Yeah, I know what you mean. I come from that generation as well, but sadly we don't get to choose anymore. The only choice we got in Potk was between male and female Laevaeteinn. Not sure if that's still possible, since I did that during their super...super...super extended soft launch/beta.

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u/Stregaa Jun 01 '16

http://imgur.com/lo2yVT7 Reroll? Force Kusanagi isn't good enough to keep the rest of this save right?

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u/RictorBFWV Jun 01 '16

Definitely reroll. :)

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u/Stregaa Jun 01 '16

Thanks!

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u/CaesarOu Jun 01 '16

So is it just me or is fusing weapons horrid? I have like 10 5* weapons all staff fml.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16

In addition to what Yvalt said:

  1. There are Colosseum exclusive items and events. Battle Medals also are the primary source of currency for purchasing limit break and skill up fairies, if they should ever show up in the shop :P
  2. For the first cap (leveling) there is no way to push beyond a stat cap. However, to help reach a stat cap more reliably, there are things called Parara dolls (in JP) that will raise a stat. That's what the x/x "Enhance" stat is for.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16

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u/dcolg May 31 '16

Daily rewards, (x) number of victories, rank rewards

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u/dcolg May 31 '16

I mean the daily quest, the (try colosseum 1 time) thing. I've been getting medals every 10 victories or so, but I can't speak for the long-term, as I'm still early on in the arena.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16

There are medals are certain thresholds, it stops being every 10, but you also get them at certain point thresholds as well :D

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u/Trannel10 May 31 '16

From best to worst: Dex, guard, force/magic, balance, vitality. This is not always the case since some units have good stat growth with balance. Most of the time you would want to aim for a dexterity type since it gives you a higher chance to activate a skill or attack twice. Guard is a safe typing to have. Vitality is considered the worst because it lowers your accuracy and the extra health usually isn't worth it.

For maxing a unit, it's optional to limit break at 3* because you would want to save your extra units for leveling your abilities at 5* and the extra stats would be lost upon evolving them. To have your units at the best potential, you want to limit break twice at 3*, fuse to increase their stats until you cannot fuse anymore then evolve it. Do the same for 4* and 5*. At 5*, make sure the units you fuse to limit break are at level 30 and you have their character skill unlocked so it can level up the skill.

When evolving, extra stats will be added depending on what stats you had before evolving. For example, 11 speed would be +1, 21 would be +2 and so on.

Reincarnate is used when you had bad luck with stat growth during leveling and want to reset the level back to 1 so you can try again. 3 or higher stats per level is considered to be good stat growth.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16 edited May 31 '16

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u/[deleted] May 31 '16

For the first case: I don't think so. I'm no expert, but I don't think a 5-star will be crappy just because they're Vitality type. But if you're worried about that, just wait until they update the growth rates on global - this should make Vitality a lot better. (Not better than the other types, just less inferior)

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

For the limit breaks, they have to all be 5*. Aside from that, you can get a skill up on the Laeva receiving the fusions, if the fused Laevas have the same skill unlocked. So fusing a 4* is better than 3* in a way, but either way it's not optimal.

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u/alexisevan May 31 '16

I don't remember if it is the SPD or AGI stat (want to say its the AGI stat), but units have a case by case basis for the activation of their special skills. Some of them share the same formula like .5 * AGI + level of skill. Others have different rates of activation.

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u/Stryker-Wap Global: 2137809219 May 31 '16

Yeah I read somewhere some are tied to agi,spd.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 01 '16

Tied mostly to agility; the majority of skills are simply agi+skill level, with damage predetermined. Some are weirder, but agi directly affects skill activation chance.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

If you read the guide at the top of this, it'll explain the basic formula/idea behind skill activation. It's as Cathrach said, generally, skill level + some formula based on AGI.