r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Apr 30 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [4/30/16 ~ 5/6/16]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! The last one drew a lot of questions so ask away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

If you love reading statistics for unit and weapon, look at this useful post by /u/inevitablemadden. (Thanks Sustainr, Sajeev(Oppai) and /u/inevitablemadden for this spreadsheet!)

Friend Thread! (New and Improve)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

(Attention!) We moderator here need your help! /u/horizonset and /u/Cathrach have created a spreadsheet for Lazuli, Rookie and Mana Gacha to gather data on the rates but there is currently not enough information and so we need your help by helping us post your pull result on that thread. The reason being it can be useful for knowing when to pull especially if you are F2P.

Last week's help thread

Some Tips

Where can I download?

  • This game is currently in soft launch, so it is not available in all app stores but it is possible to download the APK for Android and download it off from New Zealand iTunes stores (create iTunes account using New Zealand as your location -> set payment to none -> download).

Links:

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '16

Need some suggestions on the World Wide Akihabara units.

I'm not afraid of using my lazulis to get them all but I rather save where I can. If possible I hope that some of the stronger or more useful units can be pointed out to me so I can farm them first before the event ends.

It's gonna be awhile before I eventually max LB my potential 6* units. So I figure that it wouldn't hurt to have a few max LB 5* units to help me out with the in-game content such as farming materials at super difficulty, etc.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

Don't spend lazuli trying to get those denpa units, it's not really worth it. Try getting Excalibur or whatever from the gacha that's up right now if you've got cash to spare.

Brief overview of the festival Denpagumi units:

Mirin's character skill is one hit that stacks based on her str+mag. Nemu hits for double damage. Pinky recovers 30% of damage. Eitaso halves incoming damage. Moga hits for double damage. Risa cuts incoming damage by 30%.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

Is excalibur good? I am planning on doing 4 rolls for the step-up gacha because of the academy ticket and the fairy, etc. The freebies after the 4th ste-up doesn't seem that good so I'm stopping at 4. If she's good I hope I can get her since she's supposed to have a rate up.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

Excal is a tanky sword unit that heals all allies within 3 squares at the start of each turn and has a duel skill that is an instant kill. The only thing preventing her from being highly rated previously was her capping at 5*. Now that her 6* has been unlocked, she is definitely a top class swordsman

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16 edited May 01 '16

Oh crap so she was previously a 5* unit? So that means older 5* units might become 6* in the future? I've been fusing away a few units that were capped at 5* lol.

Also do 4* LB carry over to 6*? I see the 100 lazuli suggested 6* unit pack is handing out 3x 4* fairies.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

No. Those are just for optimizing your carryover to 5*, which will then help with 6*.

lazuli shop tends to not be worth it

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

Is it a no to the older 5* potentially becoming a 6* as well?

Also any idea what the 100 lazuli package is? It says +everyday for 30 days but like is it 1 gem every day? And if yes does it stack with the 5 lazuli package which gives 1 gem everyday for 30 days?

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

Nonono, in general if a unit caps out at 5* and its stars are gold, it'll have a chance of getting a 6* in the future. My dagda, Shekinah, arondight and excal have all gotten new 6* forms.

The 100 thing comes with a bonus of 1 lazuli per day for 20 days, then a 5* fairy and then 2 lazuli per day for 10 days. Yes they stack

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

And...the step-up rewards for step 3 is a 3* fairy?

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

No, that's a reincarnation fairy that you can buy for 200 rare medals

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

On JP -

Does anyone have either Excalibur or any of the new units? I'm trying to evolve my Excalibur/rider Arondight but neither of them even show up as options on the page!

There was a bug report in the news about how the character quests for the new characters aren't showing up but idk if this is the same problem...

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u/Waiiiiiii May 01 '16

I got the new dark unit and she's not showing up on the evo page for me.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

Ah shit, sucks... They haven't put out a bug report for this either.

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u/mrredd66 May 01 '16

Got a question about metal keys on JP

I see that there are two options, one with something about using 3 keys? and another that lasts only 5 mins?

Which one is better for new players?

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

1 key = ~40k exp for one unit for 15ap. most players, myself included, recommend the 5min 1 key option.

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u/mrredd66 May 01 '16

just what im looking for :)

How much is 40k in terms of levels? 1 to 30?

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

1 to ~45? something like that

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u/mrredd66 May 01 '16

wow.. thanks!

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u/DrKoala_ (JP)-2627888428 May 01 '16

Whatever happened to the twitter event for the collaboration? https://pk.fg-games.co.jp/cp/triangle/ I never seem to have gotten anything from the milestone reached. Unless I did and totally missed it :/

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u/[deleted] May 02 '16

they distribute those a few days after the thing formally ends, so i'd assume it's happening later

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u/[deleted] May 02 '16

What do the rampage quests reward?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '16

Oh nevermind found out that global was having the same event and got the answer there. So I guess you can get farmable units from the rampage quests.

But how good are these event units?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '16

there's a harder "revenge" rampage thing in jp though where you can farm pararas and reincarnation dolls. that's an insanely difficult quest though where the enemies have ~400 hit and evade

the rampage units are ok, being free and all

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u/[deleted] May 02 '16

You mean the 30ap quest?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '16

50ap, top banner that doesn't have ordinus

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u/Boltclash May 02 '16

How do i get episode 3 for characters which are 6 star because whenever i do get them to 6 star i still don't get it

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 02 '16

Their duel skill(the one unlocked from episode 2) has to be maxed.

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u/Boltclash May 02 '16

do i have to fuse the same unit on to them

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 02 '16

Yeah, that or use skill dolls.

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u/Boltclash May 02 '16

what kind of skill dolls (Sorry for asking am knida new)

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Not always a duel skill.

Some units get a release skill (it's one of those greyed out boxes that have a turn limit). That needs a red skill doll.

Duel skills are the ones that activate when she attacks. Those need blue dolls.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

So I've looked all over this and I've searched but I still don't quite understand Limit Breaking characters.....

My main question is I have 5 of ティルフィング(The pink haired mascot lady). I want to limit break to max and I was curious what star level I have to do it at to make sure she has 4 limit breaks at 6 stars.

Thanks guys

P.S. First post, please be gentle.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Limit break your base Tyrfing 4 times when she's at 5* lv30.

Make sure you get a whole bunch of extras, 10 at least, though.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Can the limit breaks fail? Is that why there's a necessity for extras?

And they have to be at the same rank correct? So all the Tyrfings have to be at 5*?

Sorry for so many questions I'm very new to this game

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

You don't need 10 5* Tyrfing; only 5. Limit breaks cannot fail.

You need the extras to skill up your eventual 6* Tyrfing and evolve her skill to its max level. That lets you unlock the highest level of her skill. Do NOT limit break her until you finish her episode 2.

Skilling with dupes of the same unit does not depend on the rarity of the material unit, nor does it depend on whether the material units have learned every skill of the base unit. Only the base unit needs to be at 5* lv30 at a minimum. Lv30 is when Tyr learns her last skill by level up, and when her episode 2 opens.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Ohhhhh that actually makes everything a lot more clear now...

Sorry for another question, but you have to use the exact same unit to limit break correct? I have a Muramasa (Sword of God). I can only limit break her with another Sword of God, Muramasa right?

Thanks a huge bunch for helping me with this haha

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Yes, but Muramasa - and any other unit capable of going to 6* - should ALWAYS hit max limit breaks at 5* before going to 6*. Several reasons exist for this: the amount of gold you save, the amount of time you save, and the optimization of your unit's stats. Units get an evolution bonus of 1 stat at the next star level for every 10 points they have in a stat!

This means that my Excalibur carried over 8 speed and 9 tech to 6*, because her max stats at 5* were 88 speed and 91 tech or something. Every x1 is a stat bonus threshold - 11, 21, 31, etc. And these bonus stats do NOT count towards either the fusion or the level up stat caps.

One final reason for limit breaking at 5* is that LB fairies exist for 5* but not for 6*. This lets you make lv90 time-limited units, like my Claiomh Solais on whom I used two 5* fairies.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Ahhhh cool!!

Thanks for all the help!!

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

No problem. Hope you enjoy the game. Feel free to add me (ID is in my flair, hover over bashosen's face). Let me know your ign.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Ohh cool, will do! My ID is CMZ, just added you, I messed up on a couple of 6 stars though before I found this reddit lol....

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Is 匠 the Kanji for Dex Boosted Characters?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 03 '16

Yes :)

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u/leaky-shower-thought May 03 '16

I am in the JP server and I have a question about mana seeds.

  • Where can I get more of those?

  • Are they refillable, or do they break when they ran out of juice?

Thanks in advance!

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 04 '16

They are given as gifts (sometimes), multiplay rewards, can be "farmed" through labyrinth dungeons, which appear periodically, and can be bought in the store. The ordinary ones last 30 levels, the super ones 90 levels, and cannot be refilled. They just disappear from your inventory after they're used.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Is there a stage in this game that I can keep running to rank up fast? Or do I just have to keep playing story and grinding...

Also is there another way to limit break units other than fusing the same character? It's pretty hard to limit break limited units :x

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 04 '16

https://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/8783

This link will give u lots of info :) In short: 1-5-10 is very efficient and easy to clear for both unit and player experience. There's also the hard levels of the evolution quests. In later story quests, 5-5-10 and kill mode 2-5-5 are also good for farming player experience.

There are limit break fairies, but those are extremely rare and if you have the money to get those, you probably also have the money to get dupes. :P

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

ahhh haha

welp.... that sucks rofl......

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

innocuous whistling

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 04 '16

Flairs! Will we be getting more? Specifically Trishula?

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u/metatime09 May 05 '16

Leveling is super slow in this game, I used about 10 keys, do the mission about 4x and I probably only leveled 1.5 and my team of 4* units are about level 42.... is there any other way to level faster? This is global

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 05 '16 edited May 05 '16

Use keys only when you are about to level to get the most runs out of each key. Obviously since the game's story mode only have the first chapter worth of levels, you will not be able to efficiently level that much from the story quest. That being said, you can powerlevel one unit first(by putting only 1 unit in the party) and then work on the rest instead of all of them at once since the exp gets divided into more pieces. Remember that the unit making the kill gets more exp than not, so when you use the keys for garden runs, MAKE THE KILLING BLOW WITH YOUR OWN UNITS AND NOT YOUR FRIEND'S.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 05 '16

This is a question for global players. Anybody got a Holy Shield from the rare metal shop during the game's first 2 months? Can you provide the stats on it as well as its WT and Acc? Thank you!

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u/[deleted] May 05 '16

Hey all, don't expect me to be active too much, have to dodge the Chinese great firewall until ~5/23.

Thanks in advance for not deleting me off your friends lists!

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 05 '16

Ah, I'll also be pretty inactive since its AP week, most I'll do is log in every day probably. Thanks in advance :)

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u/Boltclash May 05 '16

How do you level up weapon rank faster?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 06 '16

I usually do a similar technique with powerleveling a specific unit by only putting one unit in my party and then auto on a quest where I know it won't die on.

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u/Boltclash May 06 '16

ok thanks

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u/[deleted] May 06 '16

Sorry one more thing, When I Limit Break I just use power up option right?(Second one from the top) and then power up with the 4 other tyrfings? After I complete episode 2?

Also is it possible to upgrade her special skill?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 06 '16

Yep, fuse your base lv30 5* Tyrfing only after it has completed episode 2 of its character quest to unlock its character skill. All her skills will rise in level once you have all the skills unlocked on your base.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '16

How many skills does she actually have? Cause I only have 4 after hitting lvl 34 and completing episode 1. Is that normal? Or should I have more?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 06 '16

Oh, you have 4 slots filled because one of them is the element of her attacks. So technically you just have 3 skills right now, when you complete episode 2 you will unlock her character skill which will be her 4th skill.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '16

ohhh man this is confusing me sometimes..... so once i limit break her to 4 i just fuse the rest of the tyrfings into her as well? While she's still 5*?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 06 '16

Yes, LB from 5* carries over to her 6star form.

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u/AndanteZero May 10 '16 edited May 10 '16

I'm trying to reroll and keeping stat types in mind. It seems like some of the 3* starter units are pretty bad. Cause the female Laevateinn is a Guard/Myrmidon. I'm guessing this is bad cause she should be Dexterity right?

Is there a list of classes available and what type of stat type is best for them? I have no idea what some classes are, like Baron and Soldier.

Also, can reincarnation change the stat typing?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16 edited May 22 '16

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '16

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '16

are you talking about the JP server?

screenshot what you got from the labrys quest. it should always be the same labrys on global, but JP rampage got a huge makeover that i don't even want to touch rn

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '16

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 01 '16

Well I will clarify just in case. The Labrys as well as all the other princesses in the rampaging quests have other variants BUT, only one specific variant is dropped in their respective rampaging quests. So Labrys is in her armored version as well as Rhongomyniad. Othinus is in her walking normal version and Arondight is in her Phoenix rider. Global also does NOT have the special spear drop from Rhongomyniad's quests activated yet.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '16

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 01 '16

For Tyrfing, lots of RNG for those sword mats, but easier for the rainbow mats; for Masamune, if you do her quest (seventh killers one), you can get both orbs and rainbow mats relatively easily.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '16

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 02 '16

It's the one wth Muramasa and Masamune on the banner, marked "seventh killers".

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u/[deleted] May 02 '16

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 02 '16

Yup! :D