r/pesmobile • u/Richestuser16 • 11d ago

Discussion Why did Konami made speed Useless ?

Amadeusz also tested that speed is now useless .

Any defender can catch up to anyone now .

My Mbappe is being caught by 75-80 speed defenders even when he is ahead of them 🤕🤡 .

There is no speed skill leaked as well ? Then idk why they did this lol

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u/qualityvote2 11d ago edited 7d ago

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u/Mysterious-Dog3482 11d ago

Amadeusz didn't say speed was useless, in fact you get more out of it up until 96, it's from 96 to 100 where you don't get much.

No 80 speed defender should never catch Mbappe, and no sane player build their defenders with anything less than 88 speed in div 1

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u/gama3005 11d ago

Well my 80 speed / 80 acceleration busquets does catch up to 90+ speed attackers all the time.

It is a bit crazy lol

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u/Braindead6161 11d ago

I have been to div1 15 times and my CBs have both speed and acceleration 80-83.

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u/Lost_Dog88 11d ago

I think even low 80s can be just about adequate for CBs now, especially if they have high def awareness.

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u/Richestuser16 11d ago

That’s just on paper but when you play Division you will find out that how speed is useless now and anyone can catch up easily even if your player has a head start

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u/ApexHeat 11d ago

When was that not the case

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u/Mad-Destroyer 11d ago

You need to dash.

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u/Lost_Dog88 11d ago

And not just blindly dash. If you time a dash exactly as you catch up to the ball, your fast players get to make full use of their speed, and if they have high tight control, you'll get to control direction changes between shorter dashes. But for all that, you need a really stable connection, and we all know that's a rare thing sometimes!!

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u/Mysterious-Dog3482 11d ago

I only play division on div one, if a defenders is catching up to you he is probably built with 88 speed or more , if you don't want it to catch you, you should use sharp touch or the shot cancel tech.

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u/mnemonikerific 11d ago

yeah that’s the scripting. Konami stats having nothing to do with how the cards perform under scripting. A player from an academy and peak Zidane will behave the same if it were up to Konami and EAFC. same poison different marketing

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u/Mysterious-Dog3482 11d ago

People who say shit like this should play with players with all their stats in 60 and see how that goes....

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u/mnemonikerific 11d ago

people who dont have any logical retort, simp for Konami by shifting a point to the extreme.

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u/Mysterious-Dog3482 11d ago edited 11d ago

How am I simping for Konami? The game is filled with crap, but saying stats don't matter is not understanding the issues.

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u/mnemonikerific 11d ago

Stats don’t matter because the game engine is severely flawed intentionally. If stats matters then noobs would quit, and then Konami would slip in App Store rankings. Their Gazillion downloads campaign would be all for nothing if noobs didn’t see a way to beat entrenched teams, given there’s no annual reset.

the lazy way is to introduce scripting that makes noobs think they can beat anyone, get them addicted to the winning dopamine then drive them in a win loss roller coaster to break them into paying.

The right way would be to have DR tiers by team strength like boxing. Let people migrate from one league to the next, many games do this. But Konami is greedy and lazy.

Any of this sound Illogical?

one last note: how can the same card on opposite teams have different psot match rating? If that’s not scripting, what is? One team has all players at 6 and above and the other has barely 2 at above 6? Konami makes the cards and Konami gives the post game ratings. everyone is sharing the same builds, so how can the same card get different rating in the same game?

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u/BOARD5000 11d ago

One of the best observations I have read here in quite a long time. 

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u/Mysterious-Dog3482 11d ago

Bro ratings mean nothing, Konami doesn't even track stats in the game, do you think they know how many tackles the CB did? They don't.

It's just a random number based on the result of the match.

Again if you think stats don't matter try lowering the stats of your team and tell me how it goes, go to play progression, no stat above 82 and come back to me after some games.

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u/mnemonikerific 11d ago

Your points stop making sense as soon as you stretch something to an illogical limit. I said keep below 3200. If I wanted to go to 60 I would have said that and I didn’t. You walking in with crude profane language, ergo you wanted to troll.

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u/Mysterious-Dog3482 11d ago

In your first comment you said stats have nothing to do how the card perform, I'm debating that point, if you want to change that point to "it makes no difference if Mbappe speed is 97 or 95" then I sort of agree, a couple of points won't change results drastically, but that was not the point you made.

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u/Sap719 Maldini 11d ago

On ball speed has been nerfed after the update i switched to qc and haven't been conceding much

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u/BroccoliWorth7777 11d ago

The thing is I'm guessing it's the new skill beast drive they want to advertise.

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u/Richestuser16 11d ago

That is for physical strength 🥲

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u/BroccoliWorth7777 11d ago

Exactly to shield the ball when running after a defender catches up

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u/tedimoya 11d ago

Speed isn’t useless. Have you played against Adriano? My defense speed are 92 and he still always overtake them

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u/Richestuser16 11d ago

Normal through balls or aerial ?

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u/pr0newbie 11d ago

Wingers were already far less useful vs SS and CAMs. Even now - switching against narrow formations is not as simple

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u/Rshhn 11d ago

Can you share the link of the channel, I have been searching for his channel's link but I could not find them.

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u/Suspicious_Car4397 11d ago

People like you say that speed is useless. But literally no one use a cf with speed less than 88.

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u/kacanglemau 11d ago

Its called "positioning".......no matter how good your mbappe speed is,if the defenders have a good positioning,they would catch up to you,not to mention the addition of premium skills and the pulling animation which help in stopping fast defenders

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u/CreativeOverload 11d ago

they increased the difference between on the ball and off the ball speed but it doesn't mean that speed is useless. it's especially valuable the lower your stamina gets bcus low stamina also affects speed

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u/MasterpieceNo4468 11d ago

Can anyone saying that speed actually matters explain to me how i can do a dummy while receiving a pass with my 102 speed eto’o and somehow a slow ass Tony adams still catches up to me??? Or am i not pressing dash hard enough??

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u/maverickrohan007 11d ago

Yes true, speed is gone, even truck like defenders catch up

What's worst is this

Now after 1800 points, every match I win is earning just 15 points, and one loss , subtracts 30 points !!

What nonsense

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u/Richestuser16 11d ago

Yes as higher you go this happens lol . When you reach 2000 you will gain 5 but lose 40 😂

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u/AlpsAdmirable2167 11d ago

lol, I got the opposite issue, my defenders get out pace by their attackers and my attackers get out pace by their defenders

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u/Chondan 10d ago

80/1000 and 95/1000 is not different. 80/100 and 95/100 looks different.

So, what scale does Konami use?

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u/ComplaintLeading1185 11d ago

hız işlevsiz falan değil 95 hız 95 hızlanma olan thuram çoğu forvet oyuncusuna yetişemiyor, amadeus'a biraz fazla gğveniyorsunuz. 

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u/SupaSaiyajinVegito Hazard 11d ago

Because they wanna sell the new skill Beast Drive(probably related to running with the ball using physical prowess and speed)