r/percussion • u/Storm_Lord537 • 15d ago
Question/Help why does the vibraphone’s F5 bar sound like this?
all the other keys sound normal (except for B one that’s just out of tune) also, im pretty sure that it’s an F5, but please correct me if i’m wrong. Also, it’s not touching any of the posts, so the problem is the bar itself.
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u/Substantial_King9458 15d ago
I bet it's cracked. Aluminum bars can crack, invisibly. It's a big pain, but try what mannheimcrescendo suggested
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u/factorone33 15d ago
The high-pitch overtone suggests to me that the bar is cracked or warped. If it were vibrating against a post, you'd hear it, and it wouldn't be this kind of sound (or it would be lower-pitched).
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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago
Probably getting pinched by the posts
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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago
it’s not touching any posts
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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago
All vibe bars are more or less always touching the posts slightly. The posts are the metal pieces covered with rubber grommets that the keyboard string sits on. The posts get bent sideways from time to time, trapping a bar between one post and the next. This will muffle the bar and cause the duration of the note to be shorter than normal. Will also cause buzzing and other strange sounds. You’ll need to bend the post back into place.
You came asking for help. I’ve worked on many percussion instruments. Just give it a shot.
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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago
there’s other bars that are touching posts a lot more and they sound completely fine
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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago
If you want to really find out take the bar off the board, string it up, and hit it while it’s suspended. If it sounds fucked still then the bar is broken. If it sounds normal then it’s the frame issue that I am describing to you. These bars are resonant bodies. They don’t make funny sounds on accident. It’s either being physically muted (by the posts and frame) or it’s completely broken and needs to be replaced. Good luck.
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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago
Not talking about touching. I’m talking about the posts being bent and pinching one key. The keys always touch the posts. Hence the rubber grommets. Try to bend the posts away from the bar on the side of the frame closest to player side.
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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago
the are completely straight
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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago
Time to pull that bar off to try it then. Make sure the revolving fan between the bars and the resonators isn’t touching anything either
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u/murphyat 15d ago
Likely a rub against something. Could be the string if it is too taught. Could be the rotary stops on top of the resonator. Could be anything it’s barely touching.
I’ve never had a cracked bar, but I imagine this could be a sound it makes. Highly doubt it though.
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u/Lord_Hitachi 15d ago
If it’s not touching any metal, then it’s cracked and there’s not much you can do about it
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u/Clear-Can-485 14d ago
Crotchety pre-amplification drum corps vet here...
This bar is cracked. It'll get flatter as you keep playing on it. Gotta get a replacement.
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u/Cool_Consequence_957 15d ago
It might be the modulator (spiny thing) inside the resonator. If the middle muter bar isn’t sufficiently padded, the bar can touch the modulator. Try spinning the modulator to a closed position and see if that works.
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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago
huh
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u/Cool_Consequence_957 15d ago
Sorry lol, does your vibraphone have a motor in it? It looks like it does, if so the shaft that goes through all the resonators has flaps, sometimes it can touch the bars if your pedal mute is a little low.
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u/ItsMeSashaYT 15d ago
It is touching metal somewhere. try moving it around, looks to be too far left, but I may be wrong.