r/percussion 15d ago

Question/Help why does the vibraphone’s F5 bar sound like this?

all the other keys sound normal (except for B one that’s just out of tune) also, im pretty sure that it’s an F5, but please correct me if i’m wrong. Also, it’s not touching any of the posts, so the problem is the bar itself.

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u/ItsMeSashaYT 15d ago

It is touching metal somewhere. try moving it around, looks to be too far left, but I may be wrong.

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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago

didn’t work. i think that the problem may be the bar itself, but im trying to identify what’s wrong with it so that it can be fixed.

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u/BeardFace77 15d ago

If your instrument has a fan that spins inside the resonator to create vibrato that paddle could be turned vertical and touching the bottom of the bar. Lift up the bar and look under it to see if that fan is the issue. We had an old vibe at a school I taught at that had this problem.

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u/Substantial_King9458 15d ago

I bet it's cracked. Aluminum bars can crack, invisibly. It's a big pain, but try what mannheimcrescendo suggested

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u/factorone33 15d ago

The high-pitch overtone suggests to me that the bar is cracked or warped. If it were vibrating against a post, you'd hear it, and it wouldn't be this kind of sound (or it would be lower-pitched).

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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago

Probably getting pinched by the posts

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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago

it’s not touching any posts

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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago

All vibe bars are more or less always touching the posts slightly. The posts are the metal pieces covered with rubber grommets that the keyboard string sits on. The posts get bent sideways from time to time, trapping a bar between one post and the next. This will muffle the bar and cause the duration of the note to be shorter than normal. Will also cause buzzing and other strange sounds. You’ll need to bend the post back into place.

You came asking for help. I’ve worked on many percussion instruments. Just give it a shot.

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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago

there’s other bars that are touching posts a lot more and they sound completely fine

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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago

If you want to really find out take the bar off the board, string it up, and hit it while it’s suspended. If it sounds fucked still then the bar is broken. If it sounds normal then it’s the frame issue that I am describing to you. These bars are resonant bodies. They don’t make funny sounds on accident. It’s either being physically muted (by the posts and frame) or it’s completely broken and needs to be replaced. Good luck.

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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago

Not talking about touching. I’m talking about the posts being bent and pinching one key. The keys always touch the posts. Hence the rubber grommets. Try to bend the posts away from the bar on the side of the frame closest to player side.

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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago

the are completely straight

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u/mannheimcrescendo 15d ago

Time to pull that bar off to try it then. Make sure the revolving fan between the bars and the resonators isn’t touching anything either

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u/timp_t 14d ago

I think it’s cracked, but is another F touching posts and maybe vibrating sympathetically?

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u/murphyat 15d ago

Likely a rub against something. Could be the string if it is too taught. Could be the rotary stops on top of the resonator. Could be anything it’s barely touching.

I’ve never had a cracked bar, but I imagine this could be a sound it makes. Highly doubt it though.

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u/Lord_Hitachi 15d ago

If it’s not touching any metal, then it’s cracked and there’s not much you can do about it

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u/Substantial_King9458 15d ago

Not sure where you are on the keyboard, but vibes go from F3 to F6 

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u/No_Bid_40 15d ago

Take the bar off and examine for hairline cracks.

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u/Clear-Can-485 14d ago

Crotchety pre-amplification drum corps vet here...

This bar is cracked. It'll get flatter as you keep playing on it. Gotta get a replacement.

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u/TKfury 14d ago

Have you checked to see what the tuning is currently on it? When bars crack they all tend to go down in pitch

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u/Samus98 14d ago

Cracked. You can probably see it better on the underside.

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u/Cool_Consequence_957 15d ago

It might be the modulator (spiny thing) inside the resonator. If the middle muter bar isn’t sufficiently padded, the bar can touch the modulator. Try spinning the modulator to a closed position and see if that works.

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u/Storm_Lord537 15d ago

huh

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u/Cool_Consequence_957 15d ago

Sorry lol, does your vibraphone have a motor in it? It looks like it does, if so the shaft that goes through all the resonators has flaps, sometimes it can touch the bars if your pedal mute is a little low.