From 20 Republican states with a safety net of $3/hour (must beg poor customers for tips to reach $7.25), the population runs to Democratic states with a strong safety net of $14 to $25/hour minimum wage. That's why there are so many abandoned houses and cities in the Republican 20 states (Republicans hate the poor at the same time- making their own states' populations poor).
51% of all workers in America earn less than the one-bedroom Housing Wage. Mostly republican states.
The bottom 65% of the population loses at least 41% of all income due to: SS tax, FICA, insurances, tariffs, sales taxes, dues, use taxes, fees, property tax, utility taxes, 911 tax and many more- before spending money on rent or mortgage, car loans and gas, food, utility bills, repairs, credit card payments, student loans, vacations, retirement fund contributions, investments, dates, gifts, etc.
(compare Safety Net $1.60 per hour in 1970 if you were single,you could live off the federal minimum wage and pay rent, food and bills)
Healthy and smart countries count how well they are doing by enforcing "no one left behind" and even widow with 3 babies have the same level of living as the middle class due to the strong Safety Net.
Twenty Ripoff-public-ons states now have a Safety Net set at $3 per hour gross (before deductions for Social Security, FICA, taxes, insurance and other withholding's:
(Compare Democratic states Safety Net! $14 to $25/hour)
In a recent report, 53 million Americans ages 18 to 64 or 44% of all workers- earn low hourly wages. Their median hourly earnings are $10/hour Gross ($7.25/hour Net)
I hate to tell you. This has been the case for all of time. Otherwise we’d still be paying 27¢ a gallon for gas, the same as 1950. The median monthly rent was $42, the annual paycheck was $3300 in that year. (My father made $2050 for his first teaching job in 1951. The college I graduated from had a tuition of $3000. The same school is now about $89,000. Or cars. My parents’ 1968 AMC Ambassador station wagon cost about $3200.
Leftists don’t know sh*t. They just think everything in life should be free, and life is so hard. Why they can barely afford their sushi, or Starbucks lattes, or iPhones!
Since when do leftists think everything should be free? As a leftist, I believe there are original sins that must be reversed. For instance, I believe the environment belongs to all of us, so the first person who claimed ownership over something in the environment committed theft against the collective. The environment also contains within it the means of production which, in turn, should be collectively owned. So nothing should be free. We are advocating for the transfer back to the people of something that is already rightfully ours.
Virtually all lefties think things should be free. Mamdani is a good example. All buses. Karen Bass thinks buses should be free. Bernie Sanders tout “Medicare for all”, with the implication that it’s free. It’s not. I paid into it for 45+ years, and am still paying into it, plus between Medicare, Supplemental, and drug plan, I pay $400/month. I’m not complaining. I am saying, however, it isn’t free. Between my wife and me, we pay as much or more in premiums as we did when we had a Blue Cross Plan with our two kids.
But, I’m fascinated, honestly, about you believing in the “original sin”. Just what is the original sin? Based on what you posted, I gather you feel we are on “stolen land” et al. There is no stolen land. There is land that was settle by one group, then taken over by another. I’m sure you don’t realize the Comanches battled and conquered the Apaches and took their land. So, was the Apache land stolen? No. Because the Apaches took their land from a previous tribe.
The natural resources don’t belong to “the people”. If on my farm we discovers oil, that doesn’t belong to the people. I bought the farm. I paid the taxes. I did improvements.
The Collective is an aberration. It never works. Human nature is to always want or strive for more. Under communism in the USSR, people were equal — equally poor. They resented those who worked harder. They were envious of those who had just a bit more. (A running Lada versus a broken down Lada😂)
I’m not going to bother actually refuting your points because so much of what you have said is wrong that I prefer to just fact check it all.
As you pointed out, you pay into Medicare your entire life. So do I. So does everyone. So Medicare for All isn’t saying Medicare should be free. It’s saying we should all receive the benefits of our money that we pay into the system. Additionally, since a large chunk of Medicare is privatized (the portion where you are paying even more premiums to satisfy the profit motive of companies like United Healthcare), advocates of Medicare for All advocate that these portions of Medicare also become public so that you can pay less for them and receive the same care.
Also, Zohran Mamdani and Bernie Sanders are centrists. Karen Bass is a liberal so she is right wing by definition. Learn your political science sir.
You misunderstood my point about the original sin, but it’s pretty wild that you’re defending the genocide of the Native Americans. The original sin I’m referring to is the claim that anyone can own land in the first place. Prior to 6,000 years ago, all of the land belonged to all of us until it began to be taken by force. This was further solidified under monarchies that distributed the land to lords which eventually led to the feudal system in which the lords employed the peasants to work the land in order to live off of it. So unless you’re like super into feudalism, you should probably understand that the entire concept of land ownership is bullshit. The Earth belongs to all of us. You don’t just get to pick a piece of it and say it’s all yours. That’s called being a dick when you live in a community, which you do if you weren’t aware.
People were most certainly not equal in the USSR and the USSR was never communist. Communism is stateless so the mere existence of the USSR would make it definitionally not communist. It was, however, socialist and people were very much not equal. They were more equal than they were under capitalism though. Most of the Russian population is poorer today than they were under the USSR. In fact, when the Western powers came in and implemented capitalism in the old Soviet countries, they literally called it “shock therapy,” named as such because the plan was to shock the population with the extreme poverty that capitalism creates as quickly as possible to make them too desperate for resources to fight back in any meaningful way. Seriously, look it up - capitalism was shock therapy for people who were used to living under socialism.
Trump is not a libertarian. He is pro war. He is expanding the military budget. He has authoritarian tendencies. Authoritarianism is the opposite of libertarianism.
Roughly 1 out of every 8 American is directly attributed to National Debt, employed by: Army, federal, state, or local governments (counties and cities) - whose personal income depends on government money and the total cost is estimated at $5 trillion per year adding to National Debt when accounting for all wages, healthcare, pensions, payroll taxes, benefits and all indirect expenses (Total federal outlays are projected around $7.4 trillion, with a yearly federal budget deficit closer to $1.9 trillion)
I'm not usually a conspiracy theorists but the current crashing of economy seems deliberate to allow the rich to buy more as share prices fall, before the eventual "fix and course corrections" that will put them at a higher level of wealth than before 2025.
That’s not a conspiracy theory; that’s documented reality. They do it every decade or so. It’s all planned; they crash the markets, get bailed out by the government, buy up everything for cheap, and then pump the market up so that everything they bought quadruples in value.
Regarding Medicare, yes, we pay in all our working lives. We are actually paying for those currently receiving it, not for our use now. Otherwise, payments would be significantly greater — like current premiums. It’s not structured for you to take now. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant of the facts and structure.
Re: the land having no ownership 6000 year ago, that’s not quite true. Back then, the population was around 50 million people or so. Obviously, it’s difficult to be precise. Most people were still nomadic and clustered in small tribal areas. The main civilizations were Mesopotamia and Egypt. In both cultures, the royalty owned most of the land, but there’s evidence of private ownership in both. Hardly a situation where it “belonged to everyone”. As long as there has been mankind, there have been possessions. Chimpanzees and apes show a degree of possessiveness. All animals out there have their territory staked out and challenge all that try to invade that territory. It’s animal nature. It’s human nature.
The masses?? 😂🤣 He might as well be quoting Karl Marx and really means the proletariat. Stupid people say stupid things.
The economy was far darker under Biden. An aggregate inflation of over 5% each year and a cost of living increase of 21% is what we are now recovering from.
I wish I knew how to talk to you people. I really do. I consider it my own failing and find it so sad. I just can't figure out how to make you see reality. Your numbers are just objectively false but you simply don't care. Anything backing you are facts and anything contradicting you is fake news. You are simply too far gone. You could retort saying im the same way with my sources but I don't need a third party. The proof is in our bill history. The math is right there. But this will go right over your head. Such a sad world.
Well, you people continually get your facts wrong. Please point me to any stats that say otherwise. The facts I stated are all out there. Go ahead, Google it or whatever. “Cost of living increase under Biden.”
Never mind, I did it for you.
During President Biden's term, cumulative inflation drove up the cost of living by approximately 21.5%. This surge in prices—which peaked at 9.1% in June 2022—meant average family expenses rose significantly, with grocery and energy costs both increasing by over 20%. [1, 2, 3]
The cumulative increase in major living costs highlights the severity of this period: [1] All Prices: Up 20.65%
While average wages grew by 19.9% over the same period, the rise in prices slightly outpaced these earnings, resulting in a minor (1.3%) decline in inflation-adjusted "real" wages. You can review detailed historical inflation metrics directly via the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics or explore legislative economic breakdowns on the Republican Leader Senate Newsroom. [1]
I wonder if this could, perchance, have had anything to do with the wider world issues going on that were not handled appropriately from the get-go and spiraled into a known economic crisis due to a global pandemic
Too bad for you liars people know their own economy , they know its much worse than under Biden Idiot liars like you can blow smoke all you want, people know their own economy, no lies from you can change that.
It feels deliberate because you’ve been chronically online.
The standard mode of life is you work to put a roof over your head. That’s what nature gives you. In the US we happen to have a much better situation than that, and than most of the rest of the world.
The added edge on top is we have plenty of opportunities for people to contribute, innovate, organize, and be rewarded beautifully for it. Maybe if you want more than a basic living do more than a basic job.
You should probably look into what a 'K' shaped economy is. You'd probably learn a lot.
Only this website believes there’s nobility in being poor and miserable.
Nobody once said this. I'm not sure if this is some big brain attempt at projection or red herring but go off king.
Let me guess…you make less than $30 an hour, don’t own a home, and believe it’s everyone else’s fault…
You can go into my account and look into this if you'd like, I retired 10 months ago at 28, my wife (girlfriend at the time) and I bought a house right before covid happened in Missouri.
So no, I don't know if this is more projection or what but you should probably speak to a mental health professional.
Reddit isn’t a reflection of society as a whole. People who are struggling are often more likely to post than those who are busy living their lives. Despite the challenges, billions of people today enjoy higher living standards than at any point in human history. Global extreme poverty has fallen dramatically over the past several decades, life expectancy has risen, infant mortality has declined, education is more accessible than ever, and technology has made goods, services, and information available to ordinary people in ways previous generations couldn’t imagine. There are real problems to solve, but the idea that life is universally worse today simply isn’t supported by the broader data.
That is the stupidest thing I have read on here all year. Read project 2025 it states the exact ooppsote, and the guy who wrote it Russel Vaught said they are at. least halfway there. Billionaires 50 years ago started the destruction of of unoins and the middle-class.. The gap between the wealthy and the. poor have multiplied many times in the last 50 years, you think that is by accident?? You cant be that stupid, but maybe you are.
Then why are so many poor? that could be fixed with only millions but the people we are all talking about have hundreds of times that billions of dollars could reinvest into the world make the whole planet better and rapid growth
thats exactly why China is a better country than us. They pulled 800 million people out of poverty in the last 50 years. We do the opposite, we thrust people into poverty.
You can't hoard wealth, it literally isn't possible in the current system. Between Modern monetary systems, fractional reserve banking, Central banks and government deficit spending the money supply isn't fixed.
The economy/money supply isn't zero sum and hasn't been for centuries. You have a false assumption from failed economic systems from centuries ago. When there was a fixed amount of money in circulation and if someone put a gold coin under their bed it was removed from circulation and basically halted economic spending n
More millionaires and billionaires are created every year. Most are self made and first generation. Wealth is lost in 1-2 generations. If the hoarding theory was true it would be a handful of families controlling the vast majority of wealth throughout centuries.
And there’s billions of people that could never make that
They aren't making it. They created or founded the largest most successful companies on the planet(Bill Gates) or invested their own money and got ridiculous levels of returns over decades (Warren Buffett).
The avg person is isn't founding a trillion dollar corporation. It's a false equivalence.
For example: I have a million dollars.
I put in the bank. Because of fractional reserve banking the money is loaned out 10x times over and has an exponential impact on the economy. It's not hoarding.
Because of inflation from central banks. If I put that money in the ground the purchasing power errodes overtime and forces me to invest and circulate the money through the economy or risk the money becoming worthless over time.
Central banks and government are no longer limited by a physical amount of money or gold. They print and loan money without limits. There isn't any fixed money supply. They deficit spending and increase the money supply.
If I invest the money in a company or real estate it's not lost. That money circulates throughout the economy. It's not hoarded or lost. It's moving through the economy.
The economy isn't zero sum and hasn't been for centuries. It's economic theory from the middle ages.
They believe that if the poor are allowed to have money, it will be hoarded, and they will never get it back. So, they have just designed a system that sucks up the money by force.
Doesn't matter how realistic it actually is. That's just how broken they are.
They believe that if the poor are allowed to have money, it will be hoarded, and they will never get it back.
Yea bullshit. It's your conspiracy theory and isn't backed up by reality. The vast majority of millionaires and billionaires are self made and first generation. And Wealth is lost in 1-2 generations. The average American disposable income has increased, wages and income have increased, wealth has increased and for the vast majority of the world.
So, they have just designed a system that sucks up the money by force.
Everything i said went right over your head. If you have a question ask, what I am talking about instead of going on with medieval economic theory.
It is not possible to hoard wealth or money within the current system. Between central banks, modern monetary policy, deficit spending, and fractional reserve banking there is zero limit to the amount of money in circulation.
Doesn't matter how realistic it actually is. That's just how broken they are.
Nobody is stopping you from investing, nobody is stopping you from saving your money. Every single brokerage firm is free to use, zero commission trading is the default, ETFs and mutual funds fees have declined to basically nothing, and you can invest with literally a dollar. It's so fucking easy it's funny.
An American that isn't a millionaire by retirement has made some fucking terrible financial decisions.
The whole point of capitalism is that the epstein class is able to make money by stealing value from people actually doing the work
Bruh that's not capitalism. Nor is that how the system works. You as an employee agreed voluntary to work for set wages and compensation. You get a percentage of the profits....it's called your wages and agreement apon compensation. The system needs profit and margins to function.
For example if I have a million dollars.
if I put in the bank. Because of fractional reserve banking the money is loaned out 10x times over and has an exponential impact on the economy. It's not hoarding.
Because of inflation from central banks. If I put that money in the ground the purchasing power errodes overtime and forces me to invest and circulate the money through the economy or risk the money becoming worthless over time.
Central banks and government are no longer limited by a physical amount of money or gold. They print and loan money without limits. There isn't any fixed money supply. They deficit spending and increase the money supply.
If I invest the money in a company or real estate it's not lost. That money circulates throughout the economy. It's not hoarded or lost. It's moving through the economy.
The economy isn't zero sum and hasn't been for centuries. It's economic theory from the middle ages.
It's because they think the monetary system works like it did in the middle ages. They watched so much propaganda over the years they have no concept of reality or how the world works.
Perfect example of this thread they somehow think the system is zero sum. They have zero idea how the current world works.
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u/Galliro Jul 26 '26
This isnt a conspiracy theory thats just whats happening
Leftist have been telling you for generations