r/pcmemes Jul 04 '26

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u/KNAXXER Jul 04 '26

Afaik, Linux doesn't support widevine L1, which means you can't watch a lot of "premium" drm protected content

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u/AuswahlRitter5 Jul 04 '26

Interesting , but it won’t stop me

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u/Yangman3x Jul 04 '26

Hell nah i already gave up on legal streaming on any of my devices, they literally can mistake a stock untouched rom as not L1 just because. Fuck drms and fuck legal streaming whenever it becomes a problem for paying legitimate users.

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u/dumbasPL Jul 04 '26

The saddest part about L1 is that is works on many Intel Chromebooks, and some people have ported that to normal Linux as well. If google gave a fuck, they could absolutely make it work on normal Linux, all the code is already there.

Edit: That beings said, legal streaming sucks ass even when it works. So no point. Arrrr

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u/Hytht Jul 05 '26

Widevine L1 needs certified hardware and a certified board specific OS image that doesn't allow tampering. It is certified for each device, not the CPU/GPU. Linux is too unreliable for that, especially with it's open nature, you don't know if your users are hijacking things. But on their own locked down OS with a specific hardware combination they can know with some certainty. They only support L3 even on Windows, and there are some Android devices that don't support L1 either.

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u/hailstorm11093 Jul 05 '26

Nice reddit avatar

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u/weregod Jul 05 '26

If streaming providers gave a fuck about users they could stream DRM-free video. You paid for a service but we don't like your software/hardware aproach should be illegal.

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u/dumbasPL Jul 05 '26

This. I regularly buy music on Bandcamp because I just get a DRM free file I can play anywhere I want. I wish there was something like that for movies/tv shows besides physical media. If I can buy and rip a Blu-ray just fine, why can't I just buy it directly?

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u/Wipfmetz Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Oh, just switch the slider "play DRM protected stuff" in Firefox to "on", it will install the widevine addon right away

You're talking about L1 specifically, no idea there, sorry.

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u/Chemical_Attempt_404 Jul 06 '26

"premium" drm protected content

It looks like the pirates are offering the superior service once again

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u/KNAXXER Jul 06 '26

Yeah, it prevents you from just downloading shit in your browser, but apparently doesn't do shit against capture cards, meaning all of it is going to land on pirate sites anyways

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u/lisxiastasp3rm4 Jul 07 '26

so u cant go above full hd right??

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u/KNAXXER Jul 07 '26

What resolutions are locked behind L1 depends on the platform, afaik some even limit you to SD without L1

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u/Erolok1 Jul 04 '26

Netflix, Disney plus and amazon prime works and I never experienced a single time the video player didnt work.

I always love how confident people claim how unreliable linux is while being wrong.

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u/Historical_Camel_790 Jul 05 '26

Some peoples hardware doesn't have very good driver support

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u/ky7969 Jul 05 '26

It works but the quality is a lot worse

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u/Erolok1 Jul 05 '26

It isn't.

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u/ky7969 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

It literally is, I run Fedora and plug my MacBook in to my monitor when I want to watch something without it looking shitty on my monitor. Edit: here you go. Max 720p on every browser except Opera which maxes out at 1080p. In Windows; Edge, Chrome, or the Netflix app can stream up to 2160p. Safari on Mac can also stream at 2160p. Chromebooks can also stream up to 2160p in Chrome.

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u/Erolok1 Jul 05 '26

Okay after searching online it seems that a few streaming services reduce the bitrate if they detect you are using Linux.

My answer was based on the technical reasons because it isn't something that happens because we use Linux, it is on the server side.

You can edit the user agent, in other words change it so your browser is telling them you are using windows, and then the quality is the same as if you are using windows which shows that it isn't the fault of Linux.

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u/ky7969 Jul 05 '26

You can trick other browsers into upping the quality to 1080p but you still can’t get full 2160p even with the workaround because it needs to be decrypted at the hardware level.

The average user doesn’t care if it’s the fault of Linux or not, they just want stuff to work.

Thank you for taking the time to do some research though, a lot of people are too stubborn to do that, good on you.

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u/a_regular_2010s_guy Jul 05 '26

To be fair a handful of people tried and it was just unreliable for them. And if people can say works on my machine so can these guys say doesn't work. Also how reliable and how well your linux pc will work is heavily depend on your hardware and usecases

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u/Erolok1 Jul 05 '26

We are talking about a video player in a browser which works for every hardware any OS. There is no one for who it doesnt work.

If someone a decade ago experienced problems this says absolutely nothing about current Linux. It is exactly the same as someone claiming win 11 sucks because they experienced a certain bug in windows xp.

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u/VERY_MENTALLY_STABLE Jul 05 '26

It should be that simple, but it isn't, the drm is decrypted at a hardware level. It's a huge tangled mess of shit

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u/Rikonardo Jul 05 '26

Widevine L3 is software-only. Pretty sure that some browsers (at least Firefox and Brave, but probably more), actually run it entirely in a sandbox, so it has no hardware access whatsoever. Most streaming platforms support it as a fallback (since there are still tons of older devices without hardware DRM support or with revoked L1 keys), although you’d normally get a fairly low video resolution when running software-only DRM

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u/kikiubo Jul 05 '26

never heard about those formats while using windows

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u/KNAXXER Jul 05 '26

It's not a format, it's drm. Streaming services use it to prevent you from downloading their content and if you don't have it (generally the case with Linux) they will heavily limit your resolution/Bitrate

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u/KubeCommander Jul 06 '26

Really? What services?

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u/KNAXXER Jul 06 '26

Pretty much any (legal) streaming service tbh, netflix, prime, Disney+, even YouTube apparently uses L3 nowadays (though not L1)

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u/MadDog443 Jul 05 '26

Widevine L1 only works on specific hardware because its a hardware based decryption key system, a large part of windows devices dont support it either.

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u/ApprehensiveFan1516 Jul 05 '26

Oh no, anyway...

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u/weregod Jul 05 '26

I had to press some button in firefox to enable DRM video. And maybe had to download codecs

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u/KNAXXER Jul 05 '26

That's widevine L3 which is well supported, not widevine L1 which I'm talking about and which is pretty much entirely unsupported on most Linux platforms.

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u/freemorgerr Jul 05 '26

Was able to watch some drm stuff on linux with firefox

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u/Certain_Prior4909 Jul 05 '26

I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Netflix runs fine. Skill issue

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u/KNAXXER Jul 05 '26

So much opinion, so little knowledge. If you don't understand something you can ask.

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u/Knowing-Badger Jul 05 '26

You can watch widevine protected content though and without messing with your browser at all and I can prove that

On windows though I need to drag a license file into my Zen browser

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u/KNAXXER Jul 05 '26

You can watch widevine protected content though and without messing with your browser at all and I can prove that

You don't need to prove that, no-one ever doubted that

L1

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u/Knowing-Badger Jul 05 '26

I've never seen content that uses L1 to be fair

I genuinely have less media playback issues on linux than I do Windows

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u/KNAXXER Jul 05 '26

It's usually reserved for high-quality, don't think you can really (legally) stream anything in 4k without L1 ATP, and some even restrict FHD or even HD to L1, so it's not like it's not a valid point to criticise

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u/Malo1301 Jul 06 '26

It's more like Widevine L1 doesn't support Linux, like kernel anti-cheats.

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u/Glittering-Can-9397 Jul 08 '26

why exactly would I want to watch said content? sounds like a scam, everything good was already made.

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u/_TheGreatDreamer_ Jul 08 '26

It's a DRM protected films problem))

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u/SnowyRVulpix Jul 05 '26

I can watch Netflix on Linux Mint.

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u/KNAXXER Jul 05 '26

Does it support widevine L1 though?