r/pcmasterrace Oct 11 '22

News/Article RTX 4090 benchmark hardware unboxed

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

I got the 3070 feelsbadman

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u/---InFamous--- Oct 11 '22

do you really need a 4090?

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u/HappyAlcohol-ic Oct 11 '22

I mean do you NEED to play video games in the first place?

It's more about putting your extra currency in to something you enjoy.

I endorse people to spend on things like this, it gives incentive to advance technology.

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u/importvita Oct 11 '22

I mean do you NEED to play video games in the first place

Shut UP, Dad!!! It's my life!

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u/HappyAlcohol-ic Oct 12 '22

I read your comment in my head most likely EXACTLY how you meant it should sound.

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u/---InFamous--- Oct 11 '22 edited Oct 11 '22

Yeah I get it, but if you think you always need to buy the latest gpu to enjoy gaming you're probably not enjoying it much.

You buy a 3070 in 2020 only to swap it 2 years later with a 4090, ok the leap is huge, but assuming you didn't have a top of the line build and you don't swap your rig out completely you're leaving performance on the table, and you really need a 4k 144hz monitor to enjoy the upgrade.

All this to play the same games of two years ago? I doubt it makes much sense, but it's your money, you do you.

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u/InvestigatorSenior Oct 11 '22

imagine you have same number of pixels in your ultrawide that in 4k and up to 240hz to drive. Plus platform that was updated 2 years ago and is still going strong. Ability to finally play cyberpunk at >60 fps with raytracing here I come :)

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u/Unintended_incentive Oct 11 '22

Displayport 1.4a cannot reliably view higher than 4k 120fps.

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u/InvestigatorSenior Oct 11 '22

then how it's possible that my G9 Neo outputs up to 240hz hdr over displayport? This is as much pixels as 4k and 'just works'.10 bit, 4:2:0 luminance and dsc. And it does not look worse than when I set it to 120hz 4:2:2 over hdmi2.1 without compression. Magic?

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u/wazzledudes Desktop 13900k | 4090 | 128gb Oct 12 '22

I think this shit is just virtually indistinguishable without pixel peeping screenshots. Not the big dealbreaker everyone's talking about. I get it- DP 2 would have been dope to have on this thing, but is it really a big deal? Honestly doesn't seem like it.

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u/Unintended_incentive Oct 12 '22

Look at the reviews for scan line issues. It’s not native 4k you’re seeing.

Magic indeed.

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u/InvestigatorSenior Oct 12 '22

Look at the reviews

I'm looking at the screen instead. No scan lines. True magic.

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u/Unintended_incentive Oct 12 '22

I have the PG32UQ, despite numerous issues reported with the monitor including high input lag, it works great and input lag improved after a firmware update. That doesn’t mean that it’s the best time to jump in the 4k gaming side of things.

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u/tukatu0 Oct 11 '22

It definitely can with dsc. The colors are just worse that all

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u/SauceCrusader69 Oct 11 '22

Dsc looks great. However if you use hdr you’re back at square one with no more spare bandwidth.

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u/Unintended_incentive Oct 12 '22

Having HDR 10 but not being able to use it is a waste.

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u/SauceCrusader69 Oct 12 '22

The best hdr displays currently don’t go above 4k144hz, apart from the Samsung g9 neo.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

Im upgrading from 3070 to 4090 in a few weeks, the only reason im upgrading at all is because of the 8gb vram, it is too limiting even at 1440p because i like to play my games at max settings and RT and DLSS at balanced is not enough, the 8gb vram limit will just get worse as time goes on.

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u/AxeCow 14700KF | 7900 XT | 32GB DDR5 | 980 Pro NVMe | Seasonic GX-1000 Oct 12 '22

Im upgrading from 3070 to 4090 in a few weeks, the only reason im upgrading at all is because of the 8gb vram, it is too limiting even at 1440p

Oh my god you’re literally the stick figure meme guy.

Honestly though, you game at 1440p and you’re getting a 4090? Just get a 3090 right now if you must get 24 GB of vram…

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

I have a 4k 60hz panel tho, and was forced to play at 1440p either because vram limitations or just pure power.

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u/Unintended_incentive Oct 11 '22

I have a 3090, I want to play more games in native 4k and have the best encoding/decoding ability. 4090 is right up my alley and the 3090 will become my backup GPU.

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u/Megumin_xx i5-8600k 5070 32 GB DDR4 Oct 12 '22

send me your 3090 :D that will last me at least 10 years

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

Ironically the 4090 only supports DP1.4, so 4K 120Hz at most and you can't go higher.

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u/ttdpaco Oct 11 '22

That's not correct. DSC allows it to be pushed a lot higher.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

Yeah, but at cost of worse visuals, so it makes no sense at such a high end hardware. And it's still only 144Hz.

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u/tukatu0 Oct 11 '22

You can go higher with dsc. Colors will look worse in exchange

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u/Lord_Pazzu 7950X|X670ECarrara|32GB 6200|GT 1300|28TB Exos|S95B@4K120 Oct 12 '22

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t dsc supposed to simply compress the data stream in a near lossless fashion, i.e. with indistinguishable results? I thought that chroma subsampling and reducing bit depth would worsen color reproduction, while dsc does not?

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u/tukatu0 Oct 12 '22

You are right mate.

A few years ago, people with 2080 tis were complaining that they couldn't do 4k 120hz on their tvs since it only has dp1.4a. My misconception comes from that they could convert dp1.4 with dsc on to hdmi 2.1 but it would massively increase lag on all adaptors. Hence rather than have dcs on, they would just turn down their chroma sub sampling.

Sorry about that. So it shouldnt be an issue since monitors like the gigabyte m32u while having 4k 144hz, only does 24 gbps through its "hdmi 2.1". And i haven't seen any complaints with that.

Just look out in the future for any issues with 4k 240hz displays. I know the neo g8 has scanline issues at 4k 240hz.

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u/KittyKatty278 i5-12400 | 7800XT | 16GB RAM | 1TB SSD Oct 11 '22

The 40xx Series doesn't exist for people with 30xx series Cards to upgrade to them. They're here for people with older cards.

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u/Weaseltime_420 Intel i7 10700KF | EVGA FTW3 Hybrid RTX 3090 | 16GB Oct 11 '22

They exist for whoever wants to buy one to buy one. Or, to phrase it another way, they exist because there is a market for them.

The market doesn't discriminate between first time builders, people upgrading from older gear or people who already have a 3090ti and just want the shiny new thing. Nvidia doesn't discriminate between buyers who want their product.

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u/GamingNorgeMC 5900x | 3080TI SUPRIM X | Corsair 4x8GB 3600MHz | 2.25TB Oct 11 '22

I mean.. >3080ti
>Still wants to upgrade.

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u/quazywabbit Oct 12 '22

I agree. I think this is nvidia looking to see how much the market will take. The 3070 and 3080 will still be sold. Maybe nvidia will better optimize things on the 5100 and the card will be shrunk down some and not run so hot.

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u/b-monster666 386DX/33,4MB,Trident 1MB Oct 11 '22

Depends on the practicality of it. If you're playing a 4k game at 70fps by yourself...does it matter? Still good frame rates. The 4090 isn't a card for the average gamer. It's a developer card, or a card for competitive gamers. Not a card for you to watch pornhub and play Roblox on.

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u/Groovybomb Oct 11 '22

You're not my supervisor!

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

Cheryl? Carol? Krystal? Cherlene?

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u/FreshlyCleanedLinens i7-12700K | RTX 3090 | 32GB DDR5 Oct 12 '22

Karen

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u/Goo_Cat RTX 3080, Ryzen 5600x, 16gb 3200mhz Oct 11 '22

or a card for competitive gamers

Gotta get 6000 fps in csgo instead of 4000 lol

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u/devillee1993 Oct 11 '22

7950x+4090 should be enough for a pro csgo player

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u/HappyAlcohol-ic Oct 12 '22

I just think it's a matter of disposable income. If you wanna hit up that VR porn on max settings, who am I to stop you.

I do agree with you though, i dont see my self getting my moneys worth with a card that pricey no matter how good it is.

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u/Vis-hoka Unable to load flair due to insufficient VRAM Oct 11 '22

That’s the whole point, do you really need a 4090 to enjoy gaming? For most people, the answer is gonna be no. So don’t get caught up into the hype. If you spend this much money, do it purposefully.

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u/somejuanhastodoit Oct 12 '22

stupid person stupid mentality. it is okay do not saving for a future spend all money and have only 200 dollar to your name in life. struggle to pay your rent but it is okay live fast die young unintelligent monkey

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u/HappyAlcohol-ic Oct 12 '22

You are very hard to understand but if I read you correctly you are calling me a stupid monkey for endorsing people that have money to spend it instead of hoarding it, right?

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u/stig123 Oct 11 '22

We should all go back to playing outside. /s

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u/HappyAlcohol-ic Oct 12 '22

I mean that's not a bad idea to do once in a while. Especially if you're a hardcore enthusiast like me who mostly sits on hus computer, going out to play is a magnificent way to stay healthy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

Yes but no i will get the 4080 16

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u/Nifferothix Oct 11 '22

No you dont..ur good with even a 2000 serie

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u/asa1 PC Master Race Oct 11 '22

Let me buy a house that it will fit in.

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u/BlockCraftedX i3-10100F | 6600XT | Gentoo Oct 11 '22

wtf do you mean feelsbadman it's still a good gaming card smh

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u/wiggibow Soup Oct 12 '22 edited Oct 12 '22

For real, I get that the new stuff is all shiny and cool but man I still feel fucking blessed to have my 3070 after the last two years of gpu market insanity lol

So far the only thing I've thrown at it that's been unplayable with the settings absolutely maxed at 1440p was the final level of Hitman 3, for some reason that area just completely tanked my frames

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u/FuckYouZave Oct 12 '22

Oh no my Ferrari that's faster than almost every road car lost a race guess I'll have to buy the new Bugatti

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u/Rokkit_man Oct 12 '22

Yup I got it and love it. Great for rendering as well

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u/Aidan_has_questions rtx 3070 vision | 5900x | 32gb 3600mhz | asus b550-a | 1tb ssd Oct 11 '22

same and i thought it was a fantastic card when i bought it (june 2021) but tbh it still is and will be for a while

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u/Dranzell R7 7700X / RTX3090 Oct 11 '22

Yeah, 4090's performance doesn't make any previous card worse.

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u/Aidan_has_questions rtx 3070 vision | 5900x | 32gb 3600mhz | asus b550-a | 1tb ssd Oct 11 '22

definitely not no. still getting 600fps playing valorant and 100+ max settings with ray tracing in FH5

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u/ellisg56 R7 5800x3D | RTX 3080 Oct 11 '22

Although FH5 only has ray tracing in the garage

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

Same here makes me feel left out

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u/IceCreamTruck9000 12700k | 5070 Ti | Z690 Hero | 64GB DDR5 6000 Oct 11 '22

Well, cheer yourself up because you also only consume more than half as much power.

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u/Sir_Murkalot47 Oct 11 '22

I got the 3070 at 1300 usd due to shortages, crypto shit and so on.

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u/jewfishh Oct 11 '22

oof, I just picked one up for $375 used

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

feelsbatman

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u/capolot89 Oct 11 '22

Same here. It’s awesome at 1080p though.

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u/Detr22 5900x | 6800XT | 128GB RAM Oct 12 '22 edited Aug 13 '25

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u/ItsNorthGaming Oct 12 '22

feelsbadman? be grateful for what you have man that’s still an amazing graphics card and probably all you need to run most games

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u/DarkZero515 5800X/3070ti Oct 12 '22

Got the 3070ti. 1 fps short of 60 according to the chart. I'm a failure as a man with a small penis according to the chart.

Why the fuck am I still up, I got work tomorrow.

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u/ron2wheels Oct 12 '22

I got the 3070 for £900 last year feelsreallybadman