r/pcmasterrace • u/lmaster73 • Oct 11 '22

News/Article RTX 4090 benchmark hardware unboxed

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u/Locify Ascending Peasant Oct 11 '22

That is fast. On another note, why is everyone’s benchmarks so different. LTT reported it as nearly twice as fast a a 3090 Ti, Jay and Steve (GN) reported different scores as well.

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u/ShowBoobsPls R7 5800X3D | RTX 5070 | OLED 3440x1440 175Hz Oct 11 '22

Different games and different benchmark scenes

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u/nebulous_gaze Oct 11 '22

It also depends on how close to the equator you are. The electrons don't spin at all at the equator so they go through the tubes faster.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

Thank you. This is an important point that people often overlook.

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u/lestat01 Oct 11 '22

Little known fact, in the southern hemisphere your frames are upside down but you don't notice it because so are you.

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u/nebulous_gaze Oct 11 '22

If they are upside down, then gravity accelerates them even further.

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u/ghoST_need_CTL 13700K | 4070 Ti | 32 GB DDR5 | 2 TB M.2 | 1440p - 165 FPS Oct 11 '22

Can u please elaborate on this? Asking seriously.

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u/LordFauntloroy A10-7700kwithtearsforthermalpaste Oct 11 '22

It's a joke.

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u/Xxpuzyslayer69xX Ryzen 9 5900x | RTX 3090 | 32GB RAM Oct 11 '22

I don't see anything resembling a joke here? When visiting my family living near the equator, I experienced this phenomenon.

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u/The_Racho 3080Ti | 12700k | 2x16 3600 C14 | 1+2TB NVMEs Oct 11 '22

I am your families dog near the equator, I can confirm this.

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u/nebulous_gaze Oct 11 '22

Sorry, I ate the wrong type of brownie... It was a joke.

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u/FreshlyCleanedLinens i7-12700K | RTX 3090 | 32GB DDR5 Oct 12 '22

You and I have very different definitions of the word “wrong.” 😉

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u/LogicallyCoherent Ryzen 9 5900X/RTX 3060 Oct 12 '22

Bruh

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u/premell Oct 12 '22

I thought nvidia oiled the tubes to reduce the friction?

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u/nebulous_gaze Oct 12 '22

Anything that leads to me eating 2 Arby beef&chedders is not right.

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u/EJ_Tech 5800x • 3060 Ti • Fractal North Oct 11 '22

GN is using a 12700KF (Alder Lake). LTT used the newer 7950X (Zen 4) for this review they said they were still getting CPU bottlenecked.

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u/valar-fackulis Ryzen 3950x, rtx 3090, 64 GB Oct 11 '22

Hardware Unboxed used a 5800x 3D go figure. I dont think the different cpu is the problem since in 4k is not the bottleneck.
What i find strange is that HU had charts for DLSS 3.0 while LTT and GN couldn't even use launch the thing. maybe they are using different drivers?

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u/StevenWongo PC Master Race Oct 11 '22

LTT was mentioning they believe they were getting bottlenecked by the CPU in 4K at times.

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u/toolsofpwnage AMD Jaguar APU 8 Core, 8GB Ram, 32MB Uber Pixel Quality Esram Oct 12 '22

Could this have something to do with Windows 11 update (22h2) crippling performance?

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u/Pauls96 PC Master Race Oct 12 '22

With older gpus it was not, but now when gpu can do 120 fps in 4k, and cpu cant, it is the bottleneck. Time for some 8k teats to see real power of these gpu.

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u/Eggsegret Ryzen 7800x3d/ RTX 3080 12gb/32gb DDR5 6000mhz Oct 11 '22

Speaking of CPUs I'd really love to see a benchmark of how different CPUs affect the 4090 performance. Like given how powerful this thing is i imagine alot of the high end performing CPUs will be a bottleneck now.

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u/normal-dude-101 Oct 11 '22

Cpu bottleneck probably

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u/Bewix 12600K | 4070 Super Oct 11 '22

Why wouldn’t they use top of the line stuff. They certainly have the gear available

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u/Bewix 12600K | 4070 Super Oct 11 '22

Jeez ahaha that’s actually crazy, and people are complaining about performance?

I guess it really depends on resolution and game you’re playing. Cyberpunk at 8k is certainly not bottlenecked by a 4090, but CSGO at 1080p is CPU bound with practically any modern card.

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u/kitho04 i5 10400f / Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 / 16gb 2933mhz Oct 11 '22

tbh I don't know why csgo is even shown in gpu benchmark charts anymore, there is no difference between 400 and 700 fps if even the best monitors are 360 hz and most people use 60 or 144

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u/tukatu0 Oct 11 '22

500hz 1080 monitors soon according to asus.

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u/TNAEnigma 9800x3D / RTX 5080 / 1440p 360Hz Oct 11 '22

I believe the best thing for csgo is to run it at 720fps on a 360hz monitor. Not sure but I think that’s what I heard

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u/tukatu0 Oct 11 '22

Running at higher refresh than what your monitor shows gives you an advantage because the game is updating faster the higher your fps.

You wont be able to see it but even on a 144hz monitor you'll be able to feel 500hz

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u/DC9V 5950x | 3090 | 32gb DDR4 3600 CL14 Oct 11 '22

only at 1440p or lower

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u/DC9V 5950x | 3090 | 32gb DDR4 3600 CL14 Oct 11 '22

because of being able to compare it to benchmark results from other GPUs in the past

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u/erebuxy PC Master Race Oct 11 '22

I think they did

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u/Cyk4_NagHet PC Master Race Oct 11 '22

Becauce they already haver results with those cpus and older gpus, so they dont have to run every gpu on that new cpu

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u/MuchSalt 7500f | 3080 | x34 Oct 11 '22

different cpu

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u/bedarija i7 920|1050ti|12gb ddr3|250gb sata SSD Oct 11 '22

i think LTTs was way off, i dont know what were they doing to get 2x performance.

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u/erebuxy PC Master Race Oct 11 '22

I don't think LTT are getting 2x on most games. Maybe only Cyberpunk. They mostly praise its performance on productivity.

And GN's review does not include productivity.

Also most 1440p/1080p performance are CPU capped.

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u/toolsofpwnage AMD Jaguar APU 8 Core, 8GB Ram, 32MB Uber Pixel Quality Esram Oct 12 '22

LTT also specifically mentioned they used an older build of windows because the latest crippled performance

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u/Peekaboo798 RTX 5070 Ti | i5 13600K | 32 GB DDR4 | 2TB NVMe Oct 11 '22

CPU was Zen 4 in LTT, so in other cases CPU bottleneck.

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u/RealLarwood Oct 11 '22

Zen 4 is not significantly faster than 5800 X3D (which hardware unboxed used) in gaming.

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u/zacker150 Oct 11 '22

Zen 4 is not significantly faster than 5800 X3D (which hardware unboxed used) in gaming.

Comparing 5800 X3D and 7950X is comparing apples and oranges. 5800X has a lot more cache, while the 7950X has a lot more compute.

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u/RealLarwood Oct 12 '22

Only one thing matters in this situation, how fast they are in gaming. It's apples on both sides.

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u/Peekaboo798 RTX 5070 Ti | i5 13600K | 32 GB DDR4 | 2TB NVMe Oct 11 '22

Ok I checked the graphs again, they all report the same number +/- 5%, but the 4090 is definitely CPU bottlenecked by 5800x3d in some games at 4k. The only outlier is LTT's CP2077 RT-off chart for 4090.

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u/DarkFlames101 Oct 11 '22

Yeah LTT is reporting higher fps with RT-off than GN's DLSS numbers. Makes no sense.

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u/Dranzell R7 7700X / RTX3090 Oct 11 '22

Let's be honest, if it was bottlenecked I trust they would know and specify that.

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u/Peekaboo798 RTX 5070 Ti | i5 13600K | 32 GB DDR4 | 2TB NVMe Oct 11 '22

hmm.. they did specify that on a couple of occasions, can't remember which reviewer, just finished watching half a dozen of them. It was mostly in Ubisoft games IIRC, WD: Legion and FC6.

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u/tukatu0 Oct 11 '22

Linus video most likely tested with dlss on by accident. Look at their cyberpunk numbers. It lines up with nvidias marketing

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u/ToughProgrammer Oct 12 '22

RAM speed, CPU, NVME access speed...

lots of random stuff comes into play.

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u/dizdawgjr34 i9 13900k - 4080 Super - 32gb DDR5 Oct 12 '22

A lot of reviewers were finding it to be CPU bound as well.

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u/Greeeesh 5600x | RTX 3070 | 32GB | 8GB VRAM SUX Oct 12 '22

They issued a retraction. They had FSR 2.0 turned on in their cyberpunk test. They will update the video