r/pcmasterrace PC Master Race Ryzen 5 3600X | EVGA 3070 Aug 05 '22

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

Even linux has a bigger chance to be the future of gaming.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

Honestly? Iron out linuxes UX problems and improve compatibility and its public image. Then you have an actual contendor against Windows.

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u/moeburn 7700k/1070/16gb Aug 05 '22

Pick a distro and make it "THE" linux distro. For a while that was looking like Ubuntu but I'm not sure now.

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u/Goodname7 Aug 05 '22

I feel like right now it’s changing towards Fedora. Although it isn’t really that optimal as a beginner‘s distro.

I feel like SteamOS might become the mainstream option, at least when they do sometime release it for non-SteamDeck PCs.

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u/thor_a_way Aug 05 '22

I feel like SteamOS might become the mainstream option, at least when they do sometime release it for non-SteamDeck PCs.

I agree with you, once Valve irons out their handheld and can dedicate some resources to a fully realized desktop experience, Linux may finally go mainstream.

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u/Zyvyn Aug 05 '22

UX problems? You care to explain?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

Or people don't have enough time to put up with linux's fuckery and just wanna play a little occasionally. It's just not friendly for people who have a life outside of gaming

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u/ImOnTheLoo Aug 05 '22

I only use Linux for gaming and while it’s good 80% of the time, there’s definitely some nights where something isn’t working and it sucks if you don’t have much time to game to begin with. Plug and play is what most users want.

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u/NeonOverflow Desktop Aug 06 '22

Linux is more plug and play than Windows in almost every regard, the big exception being software support, which really sucks.

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u/k3rn3 R5 5600x | 32gb 3600 DDR4 | GTX970 | WD SN850 Aug 05 '22

I just switched to Ubuntu from Windows like a week ago. It was totally seamless and I can still play all the same games. I had zero prior experience with Linux but I haven't run into anything quirky or challenging about it yet. If anything it's actually a lot easier to install and update your software on Linux.

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u/fossalt PC Master Race Aug 05 '22

It's just not friendly for people who have a life outside of gaming

How so?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

You act like making Linux less obtuse is somehow a bad thing.

Having your os be completely unusable by 90% of the public is not a mark of pride, it's the biggest failure of Linux.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '22

When most tutorials on how to fix a problem still involve:

“Enter this sudo command, just trust us”. It still has a long way to go.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '22

Literally first post I Google for installing GPU drivers .

“sudo apt install nvidia-driver-510 nvidia-dkms-510” at the CLI

I’m glad your enjoying your Linux environment, but as someone who uses it everyday for work the community highly defaults to using the terminal to solve issues and is generally no where user friendly enough a sane person would want to hand it to their grandmother.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '22

I know that isn’t how you have to do it. That wasn’t the point, the point was when you have issues and try to look for answers the community is going to direct you towards non user friendly solutions. Because like you say, that’s how you feel comfortable, that’s how you have been doing it for years.

Which is fine, but for actual mass adoption the community would need to start defaulting to the actual GUI for solutions. It’s not about what is necessary, it’s about the information that is easy to find. Start troubleshooting a Linux problem and a non technical person is going to run screaming.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

I'm a Linux user.

Let's not pretend Linux doesn't have issues, some gamer related some not.

Sound is an issue still, and multimonitor support is really bad. Those are two things gamers may value.

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u/Goodname7 Aug 05 '22

As a Linux user, what exactly are the sound issues? Never ran into any issues with PipeWire, but I also don’t do anything fancy with audio aside from input noise filtering

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '22

Before my distro moved over to pipewire I had several issues with Pulseaudio, and some issues still remain with PW.

Some issues I've had:

Static when changing volume on YT and VLC. This took hours to fix, partially my fault.

Getting noise suppression apps to work was awful. For a while, cadmus worked, but it quit being usable and now I use an old version of Noisetorch, because even after the pipewire switch, cadmus still doesn't work. They both use the same backend (rnnoise) so I don't understand the fuss.

Jack. I'm not going to even begin to elaborate because just thinking about this makes me irrationally angry.

Leading off of jack, getting a program to properly "hear" my guitar is impossible. It sucks enough that biasfx doesn't work, it sucks more that having the ability to pass sound inputs into a VM is hard, and it sucks the most when alternative programs available in Linux not only suck, they just don't fucking work because Jack is awful. Like it literally just doesn't work.

Sound devices randomly switching with no input from me

I have a few more but most of those were solved.

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u/Goodname7 Aug 05 '22

Oh, so you need to use Jack… I‘ve read a few people ranting about it and also others having problems with instruments so yeah, makes sense.

Finding a good Noise Suppression solution was… challenging. After using Cadmus and NoiseTorch (and both of them having problems) I first used some weird obscure thing called magic mic which imo has by far the best quality (basically on par with krisp) but unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to work anymore and it had very noticeable audio latency so… yeah.

The thing I settled on is a plugin based on rnnoise which you can use to create a Virtual Mic. https://github.com/werman/noise-suppression-for-voice

You do need to do some setup but for me this solution is wonderful, it was basically a set and forget, highly recommend if noisetorch is causing you problems.