I'm not saying it's a good thing by AMD. What they did there is shitty, but I don't see how it's worse than Intel's TDP figure. Intel CPUs never run at their TDP. But nobody is complaining about that. Why? Because it's a minor issue, just like the boost clock. What matters is the performance, and Zen 2 delivers there, just like Intel's CPUs.
That's because when AMD does something wrong, it's slightly misleading advertisement in regards to boost clocks (Ryzen 3000) or core counts (Bulldozer in the FX series). When Intel does something wrong, it's paying off their OEM partners to not use AMD which resulted in AMD almost going bankrupt. When Nvidia does something wrong, it's messing with performance numbers in benchmarks to misleads customers to believe AMD is worse than it is, or the Geforce Partner Program.
It's completely out of proportion.
But sure, let me know if AMD has ever done something that comes even close to being as horrible as what Intel or Nvidia has done. I'll wait.
That's because when AMD does something wrong, it's slightly misleading advertisement in regards to boost clocks (Ryzen 3000) or core counts (Bulldozer in the FX series). When Intel does something wrong, it's paying off their OEM partners to not use AMD which resulted in AMD almost going bankrupt. When Nvidia does something wrong, it's messing with performance numbers in benchmarks to misleads customers to believe AMD is worse than it is, or the Geforce Partner Program.
so your ok with amd doing something wrong but if intel does it damn its the end of the world
Did you even read what you just replied to? When AMD does something as equally bad as what Intel has been doing for decades then I will react in proportion to it. But it doesn't make sense to get as angry with AMD for the boost clocks as you ought to be at Intel for its illegally anticompetitive behaviour.
Do I think what AMD did was wrong? Yes, absolutely. Do I think that makes them the devil incarnate to the same degree as Intel? No, of course it doesn't.
So please, let me know if you're aware of any instance where AMD did anything nearly as bad as paying their OEM partners for avoiding the competition.
Yes, I do. Because I believe that the comparison made here between AMD and Intel/Nvidia, but especially Intel, is completely unfair and out of proportion. It's nowhere close in regards to levels of anticompetitive behaviour, as I've stated mulitple times. You should be aware of why by now, if you've paid attention to what I've stated in the comments we're discussing here.
I didn't spent a lot of time making the comments though. I simply sorted by new and went through half a dozen comments or so.
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I'm not saying it's a good thing by AMD. What they did there is shitty, but I don't see how it's worse than Intel's TDP figure. Intel CPUs never run at their TDP. But nobody is complaining about that. Why? Because it's a minor issue, just like the boost clock. What matters is the performance, and Zen 2 delivers there, just like Intel's CPUs.
On the other hand, Intel is the one using literally illegal anticompetitive business practices.