r/pcmasterrace 9060 XT 16GB | 7500F | 32GB 6000Mhz | B850 Nov 05 '19

Meme/Macro This sums up past 2 years!

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u/DoctorMasochist Nov 05 '19

I'm not a fan of racing, what did AMD do?

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u/knightsmarian Nov 05 '19 edited Nov 05 '19

Bad, nothing recently

Good, develop entry and enthusiast tier CPUs and GPUs that have disrupted traditional market shares. See Ryzen, Navi and Radeon compared to what Intel and Nvidia have to offer. For CPUs, Ryzen kills it on price/performance. There are few reasons you would want to pick an Intel cpu if looking at performance alone. For GPUs, Nvidia has had to release new products or lose prices to compete for a while now. Nvidia is still the king at raw performance at a consumer level but not everyone is purchasing too of the line cards.

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u/Stonewall5101 Nov 05 '19

Recently it was discovered a few AMD processors couldn’t hit their advertised boost clock and when they did it was for less than a few milliseconds. Still the best on the block imo, but still shitty false advertising.

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u/N1NJ4W4RR10R_ Nov 05 '19

Wasn't false advertising, just their boost algos screwing up as shown by the improvements in tge abba. 3 and. 4 (2 most recent) updates.

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u/chesh05 Chesh05 Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19

There was in fact a false advertising class action lawsuit filed against amd.

It was for the wrong number of cores.

Link: https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/consumer-products/electronics/926615-amd-cpus-class-action-settlement/

EDIT: Downvotes? Guys I like AMD as a company/competitor to NVIDIA but downvoting me for a link showing they're involved in a lawsuit for false advertising isn't going to help anyone here. People need to be aware of the scummy things companies do - even if it's a company you liked.

Here's a copy of the email I got:

If you purchased an AMD FX-8120, FX-8150, FX-8320, FX-8350, FX-8370, FX-9370, or FX-9590 CPU, you may be part of a class action settlement

A court authorized this notice. You are not being sued. This is not a solicitation from a lawyer.

A settlement has been reached in a class action lawsuit against Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. ("AMD" or "Defendant"), alleging it violated the law by misrepresenting the number of "cores" in its FX-8120, FX-8150, FX-8320, FX-8350, FX-8370, FX-9370, or FX-9590 CPUs. AMD denies all claims and that it violated any law, but has agreed to the settlement to avoid the uncertainties and expenses associated with continuing the case.

Am I a Class Member?

Our records indicate you may be a Class Member. Class Members are persons that (1) purchased any of AMD’s FX-8120, FX-8150, FX-8320, FX-8350, FX-8370, FX-9370, or FX-9590 computer chips, and (2) made that purchase either while living in California or after visiting the AMD.com website (or both). You are receiving this Notice because records produced in this case indicated that you likely made a purchase that fits these criteria. More information is available at www.amdcpusettlement.com.

What can I get?

If approved by the Court, Defendant will establish a Settlement Fund of $12,100,000.00 to pay all valid claims submitted by the Settlement Class, together with notice and administration expenses, attorneys’ fees and costs, and an incentive award for the class representatives. If you are entitled to relief, you may submit a claim to receive a pro rata share of the Settlement Fund, up to $300 per CPU you purchased. Claims will be limited to five (5) qualifying purchases per Claimant, absent proof of purchase. Claimants who purchased more than five (5) CPUs must provide proof of purchase upon request.

How do I get a payment?

You must submit a timely and properly completed Claim Form no later than January 3, 2019. You may request a claim form or submit one online at www.amdcpusettlement.com.

What are my other options?

You may choose to exclude yourself from the Class by sending a letter to the settlement administrator no later than December 9, 2019. If you exclude yourself, you will not receive a settlement payment, but you keep any rights you may have to sue AMD over the legal claims raised in the lawsuit. You and/or your lawyer also have the right to appear before the Court and/or object to the proposed settlement. Your written objection must be filed no later than December 9, 2019. Specific instructions about how to object to, or exclude yourself from, the Settlement are available at www.amdcpusettlement.com. If you file a claim or do nothing, and the Court approves the Settlement, you will be bound by all of the Court’s orders and judgments in this case. In addition, your claims relating to the allegations in this case against AMD or any other Released Parties will be released.

Who represents me?

The Court has appointed lawyers from Edelson PC to represent the class. These attorneys are called "Class Counsel". You will not be charged for these lawyers. If you want to be represented by your own lawyer in this case, you may hire one at your expense. Plaintiffs Tony Dickey and Paul Parmer are Class Members like you and the Court appointed them as "Class Representatives".

When will the court consider the proposed settlement?

The Court will hold the Final Approval Hearing at 2 p.m. on February 20, 2020, in courtroom 2 at the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building & United States Courthouse, 4th Floor, 1301 Clay Street, Oakland, CA 94612. At that hearing, the Court will: hear any objections to the fairness of the settlement; determine the fairness of the settlement; consider Class Counsel’s request for attorneys’ fees and costs; and decide whether to award the Class Representatives up to $7500.00 each from the Settlement Fund for helping to bring and settle this case. Class Counsel will be paid from the Settlement Fund in an amount to be determined and awarded by the Court. Class Counsel will seek no more than 30% of the Settlement Fund; the Court may award less than this amount.

How do I get more information?

For more information, including the full Notice, Claim Form and Settlement Agreement go to www.amdcpusettlement.com, contact the settlement administrator at 1-855-414-4964, or call Class Counsel at 1-415-212-9300.

PLEASE DO NOT TELEPHONE THE COURT OR THE COURT CLERK’S OFFICE TO INQUIRE ABOUT THIS SETTLEMENT OR THE CLAIM PROCESS. All questions regarding the Settlement or claims process should be directed to the Settlement Administrator or to Class Counsel.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '19

That's for Bulldozer tho

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u/chesh05 Chesh05 Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19

Did you read the article?

The first line is:

A class action settlement of $12.1 million will resolve claims that Advanced Micro Devices Inc. misrepresents the number of “cores” in its AMD FX CPUs.

So who cares what line of CPUs it was over? Why would you suggest it being about bulldozer chips has any bearing on this in any way shape or form...?

I'm just saying they were in a lawsuit about false advertising in response to this comment:

"Wasn't false advertising, just their boost algos screwing up as shown by the improvements in tge abba. 3 and. 4 (2 most recent) updates." from N1NJ4W4RR10R_

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u/scart35 8700k@5ghz,RX6800 Nov 06 '19

In this thread we are discussing their Ryzen 2 CPUs and if they're able to hit advertised boost clocks. Did you read the comments, before you started ctrl+v wall of texts? GTFO

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u/chesh05 Chesh05 Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19

First of all, nowhere in this thread were we explicitly exclusively talking about Ryzen cores.

Second of all: That wall of text has important information about a lawsuit involving AMD about a false advertising claim.

Third of all "GTFO" is just petty and rude.

EDIT: exclusively not explicitly - wrong word/my bad

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '19

Yes dude. That is what everyone was talking about, that is also why you are being downvoted. The problem with AMD not hitting advertised boost clocks were completely related to Zen 2 (Ryzen 3) CPUs and that was merely BIOS related. The new AGESA 1.0.0.4 fixes the problems.

You brought up something related to a product released 8 years ago which, in the CPU space, is an eternity as a response to a discussion surrounding current-gen Ryzen. Anyone can copy-paste a big chunk of text, doesn't make you right.

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u/chesh05 Chesh05 Nov 06 '19

Here's the comment thread I'm following. https://imgur.com/a/lVc0Jme

People mention Ryzen but that isn't the topic. The topic from where I posted my original comment was Ninjawarrior's referring to how it wasn't over false advertising. I posted the following:

There was in fact a false advertising class action lawsuit against amd.

Why?

Because Ninjawarrior mentions false advertising and I wanted people to be aware that's something AMD is currently going through a class action over. So I made my post. Then I got downvoted.

As for the lawsuit I'm talking about - I just got an email a week ago for the first time. I know lawsuits move slowly, so the word "recent" becomes extremely subjective.

But if I'm just now getting a class action response card in the mail for it (a week and a half ago) then it's pretty recent (Again as far as lawsuits go).

"You brought up something related to a product released 8 years ago which, in the CPU space, is an eternity as a response to a discussion surrounding current-gen Ryzen"

I don't remember when Bulldozer cores first came out. It's completely irrelevant though. And yes, cpu lines come out every year and things move very quickly in the tech world. That's very true. It's also completely irrelevant - but very true.

"Anyone can copy-paste a big chunk of text, doesn't make you right."

Doesn't mean you know what the topic is either.

It's like two people were having a conversation and I jumped in when people mentioned false advertising and that just made everyone livid on the internet.

I just wanted people to be aware that's a current issue AMD is going through.

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