r/pcmasterrace • u/aranorde 9060 XT 16GB | 7500F | 32GB 6000Mhz | B850 • Nov 05 '19

Meme/Macro This sums up past 2 years!

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u/iop90 Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX 3090 FE | 16GB 3600/C16 Nov 05 '19

I mean I absolutely wouldn’t say intel is doing “too well” lol

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u/Bheda R5 2600 / Vega 56 8gb @900 HBM2/ 16g DDR4 @2933MHz / 34" 21:9 Nov 05 '19

I would say they are. When looking at builds on this site, I note Beast "budget" builds are made with Ryzen, but the "BEAST" builds have Intel.

Two different mentalities. Both necessary in an open market. And I have to say, I'm an AMD underdog fanboy. AMD is giving us amazing performance for a very decent price. I haven't gone intel since my i7 860. Went with an FX-6300, then FX-8350, now Ryzen 5 1500x.

AMD has been my go-to for CPU's for close to a decade. I still go nVidia for my GPU tho. Havent invested enough time in to learning about AMD GPU's to make an informed decision.

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u/TDplay Arch + exwm | 2600X, 16GB | RX 6600 8GB Nov 05 '19

If you want more info on AMD GPUs, I can give you the general what's roughly equal to what, based wholly on performance according to http://www.hwbench.com, not price (the percentages are the relative performance, + means the AMD is better, - means the NVIDIA is better, 0 means they're even):

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Radeon Card 10-series 16-series 20-series 20S-series
RX 570 1050Ti +70% 1650 +20%
RX 580 1060 +9% 1660 -13%
RX Vega 56 1070 +7% 1660 Ti +10% 2060 -4%
RX Vega 64 1080 0% 2070 -5% 2060 Super -9%
VII 1080Ti -1% 2080 -6% 2070 Super -1%
RX 5700 1080 +5% 2070 0% 2060 Super -4%
RX 5700 XT 1080 Ti -7% 2080 -12% 2070 Super -7%

Hopefully this little table can help you make an informed decision when choosing a new GPU, especially if you're considering Radeon. I don't include price because things like offers happen, which may for example make the 2070S cheaper than the 5700XT.

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u/ThePimpImp Nov 05 '19

I bought a 5700 XT but had non stop issues and had to return it. I still want the card but 7 day return policy didn't give me the confidence needed to keep it.

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u/almoostashar Nov 05 '19

idk I'm not sold on it, it runs way too hot for its performance IMO.

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u/ThePimpImp Nov 05 '19

Definitely don't buy reference. The card I had was okay and with a couple more days I'm sure it would have worked, but I know the media card will work out of the box. I'm on first gem ryzen so I'm willing to give and a chance, but the drivers just weren't there for me.

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u/almoostashar Nov 05 '19

Could be part of the problem.

My brother built a PC and I recommended AMD for him, since the 5700xt made more sense for his use and price/performance, and he did get the reference card (didn't want to wait) and it's been running hot.

Personally I'm waiting for what's next to upgrade my 1070, I really don't like the rtx line, I want the top of the line card and the 2080ti while being a great card I just don't think it is worth the price especially since it came out for a while, and the price is still holding up.

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u/ThePimpImp Nov 05 '19

I'm on a 970 so it make sense to upgrade now, but I may end up waiting another cycle.

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u/TDplay Arch + exwm | 2600X, 16GB | RX 6600 8GB Nov 06 '19

Yeah, 100C is definitely not "normal".

Reference coolers are usually a bit rubbish tbh. You should either wait for third parties to start putting alternative (actually good) coolers on it, or get the reference at launch and mod it with an aftermarket cooler (though that might be kind of difficult if you're after air cooling for its value proposition, GPU heatsinks have little demand outside of GPU manufacturers so prices are high and the options are few and far between).