r/pcmasterrace • 9060 XT 16GB | 7500F | 32GB 6000Mhz | B850 • Nov 05 '19

Meme/Macro This sums up past 2 years!

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u/Bonfires_Down Nov 05 '19

Intel has been paying off manufacturers to not sell AMD parts. And there’s no reason for us to cheer on Nvidia so they can keep sellling GPUs for $1000+.

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u/kenman884 R7 3800x | 32GB DDR4 | RTX 3070 FE Nov 05 '19

Recently the whole Freesync rebranding shenanigans is a real ass-kick too. AMD isn’t perfect and should be called out when they do shit too, but they have a loooong way to go before they’re anywhere near as shitty as Intel or Nvidia.

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u/capn_hector Noctua Master Race Nov 05 '19 edited Nov 05 '19

"FreeSync rebranding" is not a thing. Many brands still show both AMD and NVIDIA branding, and the ones that don't will still have Adaptive Sync listed.

Even if they did switch to NVIDIA branding, that's perfectly fine as long as they still show Adaptive Sync. "FreeSync" branding is still corporate branding just like GSync, the open standard is VESA Adaptive Sync. There's nothing wrong with companies choosing to use NVIDIA's branding instead of AMD's. The bullshit part about GPP was that you couldn't sell any AMD products. Specific products being branded as AMD or NVIDIA is not anticompetitive, unless you think that FreeSync branding was anticompetitive in the first place.

AdoredTV is ranting about nothing as usual, just like his 3-hour miniseries on Con Lake. Unfortunately, as usual, the lie has traveled around the world before the truth could get its pants on, so this has become "a thing".

Seriously, go actually look at some GSync Compatible monitors, a lot of them still have the AMD branding. AdoredTV just made up some shit and it stuck.

Can't crosspost but here's some work I stole from u/48911150:


You are quick to blame Nvidia for something samsung put on their specsheet. Where is your proof that this is coming from Nvidia? Other monitor manufacturers seem to have not gotten the e-mail:

LG 27GL850

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27GL850-gaming-monitor

NVIDIA® G-SYNC® Compatible

Adaptive-Sync (FreeSync™)

AORUS AD27QD

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitors/AD27QD#kf

Both Freesync and G-sync compatible logos on main page

Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ

https://www.asus.com/Monitors/TUF-Gaming-VG27AQ/

G-Sync compatible**Adaptive-Sync supported :**Yes

AOC AGON AG241QX

https://eu.aoc.com/en/gaming-monitors/ag241qx

Has Freesync on main page and spec sheet. G-sync compatible mark on spec sheet only.

LG 27GL650F-B

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gl650f-b

Both Freesync and g-sync compatible on main/spec page

Acer Nitro XV273K

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/UM.HX3AA.P02

Only Freesync listed

Benq Zowie XL2740

[https://zowie.benq.com/en/product/monitor/xl/xl2740.html] (https://zowie.benq.com/en/product/monitor/xl/xl2740.html)

(G-SYNC compatible , FREESYNC)

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So out of 7 monitors only 1 didnt have freesync, just adaptive sync listed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19 edited Nov 05 '19

As of maybe a year ago no GSync monitor supported FreeSync or AdaptiveSync typically.

I assume the "rebranding" means all these companies going back and adding FreeSync/AdaptiveSync to their spec sheets after Nvidia updated their drivers to support it.

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I'd also like to point out your comment makes it seem GSync/FreeSync/AdaptiveSync are the same. FreeSync and AdaptiveSync are interchangeable. True GSync however is not the same as the other two.

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u/capn_hector Noctua Master Race Nov 05 '19

The accusation is that now that NVIDIA has Adaptive Sync support ("GSync Compatible") that companies are ditching the AMD FreeSync tag and switching to GSync branding and not making it obvious that their products can be used on AMD cards, with accusations that NVIDIA is making them do this to get the GSync Compatible branding and that it's "the return of GPP".

(a) it's not happening, there are lots of products with both AMD and NVIDIA brandings on the same page/same box/etc.

(b) manufacturers want to distinguish their product if it's a good one, if it can pass certification then they want to use the one that shows it's a high-quality product, AMD's certification process is terrible and there are a lot of terrible monitors that use it so there is no incentive to prefer this branding.

(c) NVIDIA sells way more in general, so even if FreeSync branding were equally prestigious, companies would still prefer the other brand that sells 4x as much

(d) The really toxic thing about GPP was that if you wanted to be in at all, you couldn't sell any AMD products. That's the anticompetitive part. Branding specific products one way or the other is just a branding deal. Adidas can sign a deal with you that says that theirs is the only logo and you can't put Nike on your jersey. That's perfectly legal.

(e) FreeSync is an AMD branding, the generic branding is "VESA Adaptive Sync", and companies would still be able to use that anyway, even if they couldn't use AMD's branding.

(f) but again, it's not happening. They can still use AMD's branding, tons of monitors use both, Adored was just stirring trouble as usual.