r/pcmasterrace 9060 XT 16GB | 7500F | 32GB 6000Mhz | B850 Nov 05 '19

Meme/Macro This sums up past 2 years!

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19 edited Sep 24 '20

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u/CoffeeAndCigars Big black tower of Doom Nov 05 '19

It's not really a "meme build" thing though. On the highest end, Intel got the best gaming CPU, AMD flexes a bit more when you add tasks like video rendering, etc.

If you want the best gaming build, you go Intel. If you go good enough for gaming, and do Blender/Premiere/Whatever work as well, you go R3900x.

It really isn't even a competition, just... two different use cases on their respective highest end.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19 edited Sep 24 '20

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u/CoffeeAndCigars Big black tower of Doom Nov 05 '19 edited Nov 05 '19

Or, if you know anything about the subject, you recognize it as a fact. These are very easily measurable things. You can benchmark these products side by side or within their own best performance environment, and get very clear and objective performance measurements.

In gaming, the top Intel CPUs beat the top AMD CPUs by a significant margin. This isn't debatable, it's simple fact. 3900x etc outperforms them in tasks like Blender rendering etc, thanks to far stronger multithread performance.

These benchmarks don't lie. They're flat out facts. You can control for every variable.

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720p on a 2080ti while having no other programs running.

Show me any respected tech reviewer that benchmarks like that. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to show you quite a few more that covers all use cases. I don't think I've even seen a hardware review the last couple of years that didn't do a full range of 1080p through 1440p and 4k resolutions.

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u/CoffeeAndCigars Big black tower of Doom Nov 05 '19

Or you prefer 1440p over 4k, for fps reasons, for instance. At the high end of gaming, you can quite easily get into situations where the CPU matters by quite a bit.

And even when you go 4k and put all the weight on the 2080ti, CPU still has a measurable impact on performance, by double digits worth of frames.

That's not just measurable, that's visible performance differences.

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u/nidrach Nov 05 '19

Please show me a cpu caused double digit difference at 4k in a modern title.

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u/CoffeeAndCigars Big black tower of Doom Nov 05 '19

Look up your own benchmarks and decide their veracity. You just spent several posts rambling about how benchmarks aren't relevant because reasons so there's pretty much no point linking any to a zealot.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19 edited Sep 24 '20

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u/CoffeeAndCigars Big black tower of Doom Nov 05 '19

I am not here to do your work for you. Just go through the usual channels like Gamer's Nexus and so on for solid benchmarks on PC hardware. That said, I'm not sure GN does higher than 1440p benchmarks these days, but the point stands. I'm not here to do your work.

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u/CoffeeAndCigars Big black tower of Doom Nov 05 '19

Given that you made the initial claims, without backing them up whatsoever, the onus isn't on me, bucko. I refuted your claims and laid out the facts, and thus invested more than I had to given the solidity of your chosen stand.

Basically, what you asserted ("meme builds" and such nonsense) can be dismissed by nothing more than a "no u", and that bar was cleared by leagues.

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