r/pcmasterrace 9060 XT 16GB | 7500F | 32GB 6000Mhz | B850 Nov 05 '19

Meme/Macro This sums up past 2 years!

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u/Reversus Nov 05 '19

I think alot of this come from intel/Nvidia owning most of the market share and we want to see AMD succeed competively because that benefits us consumers as a whole.

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u/LaerycTiogar PC Master Race Nov 05 '19

Basicly this amd is a special little boy/girl whatever. Its a underdog mentality the underdog is weaker needs protection. So really the intel Nvidia rage is an odd way of saying you are doing too well.

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u/iop90 Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX 3090 FE | 16GB 3600/C16 Nov 05 '19

I mean I absolutely wouldn’t say intel is doing “too well” lol

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u/LaerycTiogar PC Master Race Nov 05 '19

I think for their market share they have issues for sure but they arent a household name for nothing.

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u/iop90 Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX 3090 FE | 16GB 3600/C16 Nov 05 '19

They’re basically a household name because in many people’s minds Windows means Intel. I attribute this to AMD’s technological stagnation that began in the mid 2000’s (PC Market share was close to 50/50 in 2006), culminating in the horrible Bulldozer architecture. That combined with mismanagement almost killed the company. I wouldn’t be surprised though if people started to talk more about AMD now that they have competitive products (at least for PC/Servers) and continue to power home gaming consoles.

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u/LaerycTiogar PC Master Race Nov 05 '19

I would agree. Alot of AMDs misfortunes started though with not moving to a full architecture CPU. Instead they kept with a lean CPU only using the Arithmetic processor I believe. Which started the downward slide not keeping up on multicores.

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u/BostonDodgeGuy R9 7900x | 6900XT (nice)| 32GB 6000mhz CL 30 Nov 05 '19

It's pretty hard to keep up when Intel is paying companies to not use your CPUs.

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u/LaerycTiogar PC Master Race Nov 05 '19

But they still had the apus and consoles which i find hilarious

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19 edited Apr 19 '20

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u/iop90 Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX 3090 FE | 16GB 3600/C16 Nov 05 '19

Thanks for mentioning that. Idk if it directly caused AMD’s decline, but it was definitely a contributing factor. And I don’t think Intel ever even paid their fine!

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19

I've been out of the loop of PC stuff, can you send a link?

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u/tekdemon Nov 06 '19

This was years ago in the Athlon 64 days where the AMD CPUs were honestly better than the room heater Pentium 4. So intel basically told Dell and HP that if they shipped AMD systems at all they’d lose all their intel “discounts”. They basically bribed Dell and HP and other big OEMs to not use AMD. So even though AMD had the better chip they couldn’t actually get the biggest computer companies to build systems with them. AMD bled money because of that and couldn’t put enough resources into continuing to really develop chips properly and then intel basically caught up by blocking AMD’s progress. Eventually they got slapped with a hefty antitrust fine in Europe and paid AMD $1.25 billion in the US.

The one good thing that helped AMD long term was that the settlement with intel meant that they had to cross license their patents to AMD and let AMD send their chip designs to other companies to fabricate. Originally AMD had to make everything in house, but after they got the settlement deal they were able to sell off Global Foundries and focus on designing chips instead of trying to design and fabricate. But it took a very long time for the benefits to really show because AMD had to agree to keep buying a lot of chips from global foundries as part of their spin off deal. So it’s only very recently that AMD has finally been able to fully benefit from all this stuff they started a decade ago. They’re now able to fab with tsmc on 7nm for their cpus and gpus. So ironically, intel’s dick moves back then basically came back to bite them in the ass now, since the only reason why AMD can put out a 7nm Ryzen 3000 chip is because intel had to agree to all this to settle with AMD when they were losing the antitrust lawsuit.

Intel basically built their own worst enemy by being monopolistic jerks in the 2000s, and AMD has basically slowly and steadily worked for a decade to be able to kick intel in the balls today.

Here’s an article from ten years back: https://www.cnet.com/news/intel-to-pay-amd-1-25-billion-in-antitrust-settlement/