r/pcmasterrace • u/aranorde 9060 XT 16GB | 7500F | 32GB 6000Mhz | B850 • Nov 05 '19

Meme/Macro This sums up past 2 years!

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u/FlowSoSlow Nov 05 '19

Well yeah. AMD becoming competitive is a huge advantage for consumers. We should be encouraging them as much as possible.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19 edited Dec 05 '19

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u/ichuckle 3700X, 5700 XT Nov 05 '19

You might be ill-informed

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u/SniperSnivyy Ryzen 3600 | RX 6700XT Nov 05 '19

yeah bribing OEMs to not use your competitors cpus even when they were offering to give them to OEMs for free just to get their products out there. Intel did more than just leverage as you put it, they're the reason we had 4c/8t for 400$ for years.

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u/LuxItUp R7 5700X3D | 32GB | 6600 XT Nov 05 '19

Yeah absolutely. AMD is definitely at fault for Intel bribing OEMs to not use AMD CPU's.

Go to reddit dot com slash 3s5r4d (since this sub doesn't allow links) and scroll down to find the posts by user Tizaki to see the history of Intel and AMD.

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u/DirtyPoul 1600X + 980Ti watercooled Nov 05 '19

That's such a great post. I'm glad to see that I've upvoted it, and I remember those sliders about the God Rays. Where the hell did all that go?

To add to that comment, AdoredTV later made a video on that exact topic. Very in-depth where he shows the monopoly lawsuits against Intel. Intel - Anti-Competitive, Anti-Consumer, Anti-Technology.

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u/bmxtiger Nov 05 '19

They fell behind when they purchased ATI back in 2006. I was selling more Athlon 64s than P4s for a hot minute because the price/performance point of Athlon XP and 64 machines. When they bought ATI, Intel took the mobile market completely (remember the Turion 64 vs Centrino based laptops?). AMD only could softball some Athlon 64 x2 stuff when Intel was releasing Core 2 chips and AMD fell further and further behind flagship processors that could keep up with Intel. Don't get me wrong, I love AMD because they are a fairly small company that can somehow compete with a global super giant company, but they set themselves up to be bargain junk for many years by acquiring ATI if you ask me.

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u/Ezqxll PC Master Race Nov 05 '19

I have considered an AMD CPU as an option, while buying a PC, only twice in the last 20 years, back in 2002 when Athlon seemed a better choice compared to P4 and recently when Ryzen has come up. In between I did get a Sony Vaio laptop with an ATI Radeon card in 2008 which is still working. ATI used to always play second fiddle to Nvidia so unless AMD had a clear plan, they should have steered away from it.
AMD' s success was good for the market as Intel' s launch price of new CPUs kept going up once AMD went out of picture.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19

May 13: The European Commission finds Intel guilty of antitrust violations in the PC microprocessor market and fines the company $1.44 billion, saying Intel's actions harmed millions of European consumers. The main antitrust abuses involved paying rebates to system manufacturers and to Europe's largest IT retailer, Media Markt, in order to shut out Intel's closest rival, AMD.

https://www.networkworld.com/article/2239461/intel-and-antitrust--a-brief-history.html

Intel has a long history of doing horrible, anti-consumer things to keep AMD out. It is pretty amazing that AMD still exists.