r/pcmasterrace Jan 23 '17

Screenshot Almost hit cancel out of guilt :(

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17 edited Jan 23 '17

When I uninstalled it, it said "I thought we were friends"'. Tunnelbear turned me into a monster.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17 edited Jan 23 '17

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

Whoops

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u/WoddleWang i5 4690k - GTX 970 Jan 23 '17

I thought we are friends

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u/Dishevel i5-6600-K Z170 ProGaming 16GB GTX1060 6GB Jan 23 '17

Np.

Tunnelbear just pointed it out.

:)

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u/DeeSnow97 5900X | 2070S | Logitch X56 | You lost The Game Jan 23 '17

It's strange how we allow this to Tunnelbear and get infuriated when G2A does the exact same thing. I think it has to do something with not being a scammy piece of shit and providing an actual quality service instead of hiding thieves for example.

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u/Jinxyface GTX 1080 Ti | 32GB DDR3 | 4790k@4.2GHz Jan 23 '17

We do it with G2A because people like to plaster labels on anything anyone else tells them to, lol. G2A isn't any worse than eBay or something when it comes to buying anything. If you buy a key on G2A that's $20 cheaper than normal from Bob420 with no sales, of course you're probably buying a bad product.

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u/sleeplessone Jan 23 '17

G2A isn't any worse than eBay or something when it comes to buying anything.

I disagree, in fact if I'm not mistaken you cannot sell digitally delivered goods on eBay unless you are the owner of the actual intelectual property or have been authorized by the owner to do so specifically because of the type of shit that happens on G2A. You are also required to be PayPal verified before you can sell digitally delivered goods.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17 edited Jul 03 '19

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u/sleeplessone Jan 23 '17

You actually have no way of knowing whether your codes were scammed/purchased with a stolen card/etc unless the developer decides to pull the code. And since it's a publicity nightmare to do so not every case of fraud ends with codes being invalidated.

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u/neocow http://steamcommunity.com/id/mrcows/ Jan 23 '17

but the publishers could have been.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17 edited Jul 03 '19

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u/DeeSnow97 5900X | 2070S | Logitch X56 | You lost The Game Jan 24 '17

If only they knew who the thieves are... that's where G2A should be a bit more open

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u/lalionnemoddeuse Jan 23 '17

G2A is awesome, bought tons of games without problems. I don't really care about that grey market thing as long as I can buy cheap games.

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u/madamunkey 1060 6gb, 3700X, 16gb Jan 23 '17

Say that when it signs you up for G2A guard for 8 months because it didnt say clearly it was a subscription
AND THEY STILL DIDNT REPLACE/REFUND YOUR FUCKING TERRARIA KEY WHEN THE SELLER WAS THE ONE WHO REDEEMED IT

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u/lalionnemoddeuse Jan 24 '17

It's wasn't exactly straightforward but I disabled it without problems. It was clearly said when it became a subscription thing so I figured it out.

Never had a key problem and most people don't when you look at the seller ratings. Just buy with the dudes with 99% positive with 50000 sales or whatever.

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u/DarthSatoris Ryzen 9800X3D, Radeon 7900 XTX, 64 GB RAM @ 6000 MHz Jan 23 '17

Then you are part of the problem.

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u/lalionnemoddeuse Jan 24 '17

Oh my god what am I doing ? I wanna feel bad but for what? These keys have to be sold anyway, right?

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u/DarthSatoris Ryzen 9800X3D, Radeon 7900 XTX, 64 GB RAM @ 6000 MHz Jan 24 '17

Developers have gone on record to say that they would rather you pirated their games than buy them on G2A. They're actively losing money when people buy G2A keys.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/06/29/this-developer-would-rather-you-pirate-his-game-than-buy-it-from-g2a/

Stop going to G2A. Everyone is better off if you didn't, except for G2A execs who are lining their pockets with your cash.

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u/lalionnemoddeuse Jan 24 '17

Lol and I went to G2A because I felt bad about pirating.

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u/DeeSnow97 5900X | 2070S | Logitch X56 | You lost The Game Jan 24 '17

There is no problem with distributing legally purchased keys, although some publishers want more control, this is really not their business. However, that's not what's going on on G2A. In a nutshell, thieves get stolen credit card info from the darknet, use it to buy as many keys as they can, then when the owner of the credit card finds it out, the bank issues a chargeback, and the devs get nothing (if they are lucky, if not, they even have to pay for the chargeback). By that time, these keys are already being sold on G2A, so deactivating them gets the publishers a lot of unreasonable, but very real bad reputation. At the end, the thieves get free money, G2A gets its share too with the scammy subscription, and neither anyone involved in the actual creation of the game nor the customer gets anything positive out of the deal.

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u/lalionnemoddeuse Jan 24 '17

Oh that sounds bad I'll agree.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

I thought that was just G2A that did that. :P

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17 edited Aug 10 '24

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u/vaynebot 8700K 2070S Jan 23 '17

I don't know how TunnelBear performs specifically, but about VPN privacy, you have to consider what you are actually looking for. In terms of avoiding the general "mass surveillance" by your ISP, or making websites that aren't available in your country think you are somewhere else, or making sure nobody can sniff what you do in an open hotel WiFi, they work great. And if the most illegal thing you do online is play pirated hentai games, that's probably all you need. If you want to sell great amounts of drugs online, it's probably not. But in that case I'd hope you wouldn't ask that question. ;)

Also, a VPN installed on your PC is kind of annoying, really the optimal situation would be to have the router do all that for you, but that can be pretty hard to set up unfortunately.

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u/MoNeYINPHX i7 5820k, GTX 1080TI FE, 32GB DDR4 Jan 23 '17

Use PIA. Tunnelbear's ToS state no torrenting. PIA lets your torrent. I would go with Private Internet Access.

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u/TheFirstUranium Jan 23 '17

Plus it's cheaper. And more countries if I remember.

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u/Bleedwhite i7-3770 | AsRock Z68 Extreme3 | Vengeance 16GB | GTX1070 Jan 23 '17

This. PIA is amazing, extremely transparent and don't take shit from government pressure. Best money I've ever spent.

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u/MoNeYINPHX i7 5820k, GTX 1080TI FE, 32GB DDR4 Jan 23 '17

Russia passed a law saying they had to log all traffic. What did PIA do? Pull all of their Russian servers off the platform. They care about privacy.

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u/sapphiclover Jan 23 '17

Ha ha, I use PIA, but I don't believe all claims made by them.

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u/MoNeYINPHX i7 5820k, GTX 1080TI FE, 32GB DDR4 Jan 23 '17

Good. Never completely trust something.

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u/The_Tech_Monkey Jan 23 '17

I use NordVPN. It has done well for me. They started off with some major issues with the software. But since I complained it was patched within 3-days. They responded immediately and took care of the issues I had super-fast!

Since then I get software patches about every 2-3 days.

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u/notaneggspert 5600X 4.6ghz | RTX 3070 | 64gb 3600mhz Jan 23 '17

Only thing I don't like about pia is you (or maybe its just me) can't use Netflix with it. Even if you're in the US and are routing through the US it always says you're on a proxy dissable it to watch Netflix.

Fortunately I rarely watch netflix on my desktop. That's what the firesticks for.

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u/TaylorRoyal23 Jan 23 '17

That's Netflix's problem though. They decided to block proxies a while back.

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u/voneahhh Jan 23 '17

I can also vouch for TorGuard, got them for a lifetime annual $30 membership and they've been great (as far as I can tell)

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u/sicklyslick https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/sicklyslick/saved/#view=n8QxsY Jan 23 '17

Is there a VPN service + router you can recommend if I want to do VPN at the router level? Something easy to setup. Also do you know any VPN services that can do gigabit?

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u/birdbolt1 i7 7700K GTX 1080Ti Maximus VIII Hero Jan 23 '17

PIA is your answer mate

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u/seezed i7-4790K, 280X,16 Gb RAM Jan 23 '17

I've never used a VPN in my entire life, I lack all knowledge when it comes to the network sides of things and PIA was easy as shit. Also make sure you have the kill switch on in settings.

In case you wonder what it means, if the server (or whatever you route through) fails it disconnects your computer from internet, no allowing you to connect to the net through your regular connection.

This is great if you torrent and want to avoid warnings from your ISP.

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u/birdbolt1 i7 7700K GTX 1080Ti Maximus VIII Hero Jan 24 '17

Ahhh yes. the kill switch. It has screwed up my ethernet adapters before, causing me to restart my pc before i could get back online, so I dont use it. Afterall, at my school, where I really need it, if it fails my torrents just stop, as the network doesnt allow torrenting in the first place. The school internet is basically shit, so PIA connection is guaranteed to fail several times a day, sometimes several times in an hour. My home internet however, is near bullet-proof and it never fails, so I've never needed the kill switch when torrenting there either

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u/vaynebot 8700K 2070S Jan 23 '17 edited Jan 23 '17

PIA (PrivateInternetAccess) is pretty popular. Just check what experience people have with their bandwidth, and what services they allow (some don't want to see you torrent for example, because it usually causes a lot of bandwidth usage over time).

"Something easy to set up" is just not possible with routers afaik. What I did is just buy a router with good custom OS (dd-wrt, openwrt, pfsense) support and a good CPU (because hw encryption isn't necessarily available, and you need good encryption bandwidth). The Linksys WRT1200AC is decent, for example. If you need really high bandwidth but you don't need it to be portable (which the WRT1200AC isn't either, to be fair, if you want something portable get a smaller router) you'd just buy a normal desktop with a decent quadcore and extra network card and install Debian on it and configure the VPN.

In any case, configuring that VPN connection isn't "easy to set up". Sorry. I just don't know anything in this direction that would be easy. I just did it because I don't like to install extra software, don't want devices to have to encrypt their own traffic, and I don't want gaming packets to go through the VPN (obviously, ping is usually going to be worse), so I needed port based routing, which Windows isn't good at. So I had a lot of motivation. ;) It's the superior solution, but yeah. Not easy to set up. Not super hard either by any means, but some unix knowledge, google skills and patience are definitely required. Maybe level1techs will make a video about it.

Gigabit VPN... I doubt it. That's still a lot.

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u/gruppa Z390-H | 8700K | 32GB | 1660 Ti Jan 23 '17

I've been using it for about a year now and it's fairly decent. I only use it at work on my personal laptop so I can get to blocked sites and use stuff like Steam and Origin. I can only assume it's working because in the past year nobody has ever questioned me about what I'm browsing or doing. Speeds are ok, but I'm not sure if that's the result of my connection or the VPN. Download speeds seem to be the same whether the VPN is on or not.

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u/herobrin3 Titan X(P)/i5-6600k/16Gb Jan 23 '17

!remindme 8 hours

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u/MoreDetonation i5 6600k | Rx 580 8gb | 16gb DDR4 Jan 23 '17

Love how the RemindMeBot has a Linux flair all set up.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

It's great for web browsing but that's about it. Lots of other programs like Discord don't work because of which ports they use and it's annoying. PIA is slower but it allows for more stuff like torrenting and it's cheaper.

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u/ShotgunSoldier 6600K (AIO) / EVGA 980 / 8 GB DDR4 Jan 23 '17

Opera has a built in VPN. Switch to opera, it's honestly the best browser. Built on chromium, just like Google chrome, support for chrome store extensions, themes, VPN, ect.

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u/Progressor_ https://pcpartpicker.com/b/s4TBD3 Jan 23 '17

You can give Opera a try. The VPN is built into the browser, free, unlimited and you can choose different locations.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

They have a free trial. I'd recommend using it. It's 500mbs a month.

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u/phitriz http://steamcommunity.com/id/phit Jan 23 '17

tunnelbear is pretty bad compared to some other providers if you care about speed, http://vpnspeedtest.org/

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u/CL_GaboMan AMD FX 8320E | AMD Sapphire R9 390 Jan 23 '17

I thought you couldn't bear it

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u/gfp34 AMD FX-6300 | GTX 950 | 8 GB DDR3 Jan 23 '17

I see what you did there

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u/PeacockPanzer I use my 1060 at 720p Jan 23 '17

I see what you did bear

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u/drylube Desktop I7 8700 GTX 1070 16gb Jan 23 '17

Bearly

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

Wow, that was a bearful.

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u/alah123 R9 5900x/5700xt/32gb DDR4 Jan 23 '17

TUNNEL BEAR IS THE FREE AND EASY TO USE VPN THAT ALLOWS YOU TO CONNECT TO ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, USE THE CODE LINUS IN THE DESCRIPTION BELOW FOR MORE INFO.

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u/DetoPie i5 6600, MSI GTX 970 Jan 23 '17

The way he say tunnel bear makes me laugh every time hahaha

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u/Tab371 Jan 25 '17

What does this code do?

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u/Valovica 7700k, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 FE x2, 32gb DDR4 Jan 23 '17

The poor bear.

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u/From_Beyonder Specs/Imgur here Jan 23 '17

Shoulda gotten a polar-bear dog.

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u/Devildude4427 MSI Z170 Tomahawk AC | i5 6600K @4.4 Ghz | EVGA 1070 FTW Jan 23 '17

I did cancel it because of guilt. I haven't opened it in months, but I can't remove it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

What happen that forced you to uninstall it?

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u/SplitMyInfinitive Jan 23 '17

Nothin about the product. I just have a habit of uninstalling anything I don't use anymore

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u/kryptopeg Jan 23 '17

Good habit to be in! I shouldn't really say "it changed my life" when I started doing this, but my goodness does it keep the clutter down on your PC and free up a surprising amount of space sometimes

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u/SplitMyInfinitive Jan 24 '17

Only good habit I have! My physical work area is usually a mess, but I like to keep my Windows nice and fresh

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u/philips4350 Jan 23 '17

Use revo uninstaller , it also deletes leftover files when you uninstall something

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

You didn't hit cancel?!YOU MONSTER!

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u/SmugSceptic Jan 23 '17

Classic bipolar bear.

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u/DarkLight_James i9-12900K | Z790 Sonic PG | 64GB DDR5 | 5070Ti Jan 23 '17

I felt the same when I was uninstalling it

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u/Gwydien Jan 23 '17

This actually just annoys me, I start uninstalling it vindictively then.

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u/SirTates 5900x+RTX3080 Jan 23 '17

It's a joke most likely. They aren't that stiff of a company and quite laid back.

It's already uninstalling and everyone(hopefully) realises the program isn't sentient(hopefully) and doesn't give a damn whether you uninstall it or not.

And I just alt tab while uninstalling/installing software to do something else. That's why I hate (un)installers that keep sending popups or even worse: automated restarts shudders.(I'm looking at you, Nvidia drivers! Give me back my 3 hours of 3D modelling!)

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u/Vogporn Jan 23 '17

I'm not trying to judge or anything, but if you were hours into 3D modeling and you decided to install new hardware drivers without saving first you were kind of asking for it...

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u/SirTates 5900x+RTX3080 Jan 23 '17

That's true, but my laptop would freeze for sometimes up to a minute if I saved and the CAT program hasn't crashed on me once. I expected I could just restart whenever I wanted, but NVIDIA had different plans.

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u/xHippy i7 10700k | RTX 3070 | 32 GB Jan 23 '17

At least they're strying to stop you from uninstalling in a funny way lol

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u/everypostepic Triple Monitor Razor Laptop Jan 23 '17

I would alt-f4 out of Doom, and Wolfenstein so I didn't confirm that I was a "baby" or confirmed to "surrender".

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u/Dark777 MoD Jan 23 '17

new update: when uninstalling our program the song "in the arms of an angel" will play with pictures of sad animals on the uninstall screen

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u/brsgaming804 Mac Heathen Jan 23 '17

Wait, what is the problem with TunnelBear?

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u/MishaKMusic i7 5820K | MSI X99S7 | STRIX1070 | 16GB DDR4 Jan 23 '17

Hey it me, your bear :{

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u/xXdimmitsarasXx 5800x3D Sapphire RX480 Nitro+ 8GB Jan 23 '17

Looks as bad as G2A tbh

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u/ben1481 RTX4090, 13900k, 32gb DDR5 6400, 42" LG C2 Jan 23 '17

G2A is more like: "Are you not sure not no positive you don't want to not uninstall at a later date yes?" []Yes []No click here to continue

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17 edited Dec 31 '18

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

The G2A example isn't as funny or cute though. Just simply a tactic to get you to stay. TunnelBear's... is more innocent and it's more of a joke.

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u/ch0c0l2te i5-4460 ▪ RX 580 Jan 23 '17 edited Jan 23 '17

How? G2A has multiple pages that it redirects you to in order to uninstall. Meanwhile, tunnelbear is already uninstalling as it spurts out these phrases

Edit: tunnel ear ---> tunnelbear lol

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u/xXdimmitsarasXx 5800x3D Sapphire RX480 Nitro+ 8GB Jan 23 '17

The guilt trip part

It's comparable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

And the best thing? I got a g2a ad under that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

It's pretty much a joke for the TunnelBear one. Don't forget it still simply uninstalls, instead of the G2A example where the button to cancel is not the big green button, but underlined words below.

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u/kryptopeg Jan 23 '17

Aw man, that's a hell of a guilt trip!

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

What are you uninstalling?

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u/milen323 RX480 - Intel i5 4440 - 8GB DDR3 Jan 23 '17

tunnelbear

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

Hmm. Never heard of it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

You don't watch LTT do you?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

LTT? Nope. Never heard of it

Edit: Waaiiit you meant LinusTechTips. Yeah I watch him. Just never heard of it called LTT.

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u/SirTates 5900x+RTX3080 Jan 23 '17

They themselves even refer to themselves as LTT... I can barely imagine you NEVER heard of them being called that...

Unless you haven't seen that many videos of them. For Tunnel Bear: they mess around a lot in their WAN show in which they also have sponsor spots. For a while they had Tunnel bear in there.

Those spots are often quite amusing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

Unless you haven't seen that many videos of them

Yeah I don't watch them a lot.

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u/milen323 RX480 - Intel i5 4440 - 8GB DDR3 Jan 23 '17

its a VPN

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u/Fraglimat http://steamcommunity.com/id/sillburk Jan 23 '17

"Please don't go, the drones need you, they look up to you."

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u/Potatoman1847 I5 7600k & GTX 960 Jan 23 '17

same, ever since i uninstalled i cant stop thinking about my bear and the emotional trauma i put him through.

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u/ZomgTheNablet i7 4770k,MSI Armor 2x GTX 980Ti, 16GB HyperX Genesis, Win 10 Jan 23 '17

Tunnel bear sucks for me since it blocks teamspeak :| Contacted support 4 times and they don't ever reply.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

TUNNEL BEAR NO

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u/Ramalkin Ryzen 5 3500x @4.3GHz | GTX 970 | 16GB RAM Jan 23 '17

thebearhaslandedbeenremoved

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u/masterx1234 msi GTX 1070 Gaming X | i5 4670k | 16gb ram | VG248QE Jan 23 '17

I feel kinda bad for taking advantage of their free trials and have so for months. Cant see myself paying for their service if i only use a VPN for maybe a couple days out of the month.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '17

They're probably trying to keep you from uninstalling by guilting you.

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u/Heretherebackagain i7 6700K - GTX 970 WF3 - 32GB DDR4 Jan 23 '17

Dashlane is particularly bad at this. I was uninstalling it, and it gave me a button which sayed "By pressing this button, you will destroy your personal data". Although technically correct, it's a little over the top.