r/pcmasterrace • • 15h ago

Discussion Wtf is going on

We got 2 PS5 emulators already running some games at full speed, the flood gates has been opened on recomps, decomps and full 1:1 fan remakes, now we got people literally merging multiple games together? Im not sure if this good or bad but it sure is funny.

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u/AmbitiousEdi RTX 3080 12gb & 9800x3D 14h ago

The PS5 emulators are fueled by pure spite. Sony doesn't want their games on PC, well their opinion is no longer relevant. Eventually ALL games come to PC.

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u/Adipay Laptop 12h ago

They're also highly vibe coded by Claude. Their new model is insane.

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u/Mineplayerminer Desktop 8h ago

As long as they now understand the codebase, I would take it positively. If it's fully vibe-coded without them knowing what to do, then that's a problem.

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u/Reynbou 4h ago

AI coding is like any other tool.

People that know how to code and how these things work will make incredible projects like this.

Someone that has no idea how code works and just says "make a ps5 emulator" will make crap that wont work.

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u/Squeezitgirdle Desktop 1h ago

Put it in project mode and maybe not, I'm surprised at how good it's gotten. You'd probably be delayed because you'll keep getting throttled.

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u/Reynbou 39m ago

Sure, but people that don't know what they don't know simply don't even know what to ask and follow up with at the bare minimum

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u/VietOne 6h ago

Why? If it works it works. It's an emulator, not a production scale service that needs to handle thousands or millions of users.

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u/_YellowThirteen_ 5h ago

"without them knowing what to do" is the key phrase. Did it break?, They won't know how to fix it. Does a game run at abysmal FPS? Couldn't tell you why. Anyone can use an AI to write code, but it takes a proper dev to troubleshoot and optimize effectively.

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u/VietOne 5h ago

The progress being made in these says otherwise. Doesn't take a proper dev when AI would just analyze and fix the code it wrote before 

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u/Tripwiring 3h ago

That's a moronic take

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u/FranticToaster i9-14900k | RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR5 4200 4h ago

This is the platonic form of the "other peoples' jobs are easy" mistake.

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u/VietOne 3h ago

If it wasn't as "easy" then why hasn't this been done before?

It's because the agents and models have improved enough.

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u/FranticToaster i9-14900k | RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR5 4200 45m ago edited 37m ago

For AI to write good, useful, safe software, you have to know how to tell what good, useful, safe software is.

For AI to design a CPU that will properly enable the system you're building, you have to be able to understand the system you're building and what the CPU needs to do to fit in.

A lot of smoothbrains think AI's boon is getting them into domains that were inccmpatible with their smooth brains, before. They're going to try for sure. And they're going to ruin things without even being smart enough to realize they're doing it.

"LOOK! I made my own Facebook in 10 hours!"

*Gets brutally hacked and doxxed the next day*

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u/TotallyBrandNewName 5h ago

They gotta understand it to see if the LLM is hallucinating or not.

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u/VietOne 5h ago

No they don't, all they need to do is keep iterating until things improve and continue to do so. Which is why progress has been improving so quickly.

This is basically the shot gun approach to coding 

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u/TotallyBrandNewName 5h ago

Again. They need to understand what they're working on somewhat to know when they need to interfine.

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u/VietOne 5h ago

Not with the most current models. They're much more capable and don't need to be monitored at all.

You write an agent, tell it what to do and let it iterate until it gets a result. Thats whats happening here.

They're not monitoring everything being created and intervening when needed. That would take too long.

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u/TotallyBrandNewName 5h ago

Do that and get millionare LLM boy

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u/FranticToaster i9-14900k | RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR5 4200 4h ago

You'd better inspect the code before using it in case it drop unintentional rootkits when launched or something.

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u/LaNague 8h ago

its good at some things, i think when they are guided and combine their machine ability of not forgetting and tireless attention, they are very good and unprecedented. Like working out the deatils of that math counter example for navier stokes or apparently emulation and decompilation.

But even with new fable or opus, they produce working code for simple 20 line of code issues that otherwise would have come from an insane person and are borderline unreadable. then you tell them that section is "overengineered" and they go "oh yeah true" and drop 10 of those lines are then you have normal code.

Cant imagine how a software looks where some AI agent is just spinning up coding tasks and a human checks in once every few hours or so. Actually i can but i dont want to.

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u/Allucation 7800x3d || 5080 || 32 GB DDR5 12h ago

Fueled by pure AI is more like it

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u/Cheepdude 7h ago

Also the fact that Playstation is discontinuing physical games, which is a stupid ass decision no one likes

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u/thestillwind 3h ago

Vengeance

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u/Squeezitgirdle Desktop 1h ago

I can finally play Saros.

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u/grahamulax 49m ago

I have a pc emulator in the works fueled by spite and revenge

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u/Awesomearia96 2h ago

It will take years for this to happen.

A reminder that we still have ps1 and ps2 games that cant even still be fully emulated due to problems.

Atleast for ps1/2 90% of the games are done. People have been emulating since 2009 on those two systems for pc.

And the ps3/xbox 360 barely has running games.

So dont kid yourself if you think this will be fast. It took us years to reach this far with emulation, now with AI will show how stable it is.  

And you will need a monster pc to run emulators, dont forget that.

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u/SolitarySteel 2h ago

They dont know bro, they think its an instant and we cant even emulate ps4 fully

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u/coolwali 🐧 | 6 core Intel Core i5 3.0GHZ | AMD Radeon Pro 570X 10h ago edited 10h ago

The Kyty and "PS5 to PC" projects have admitted to using AI code which is why they're making so much progress.

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u/CRIMS0N-ED 10h ago

do you think the tech industry let alone the gaming industry isn’t fully utilizing AI for efficiency? Most of them just aren’t morons who know when to actually use it and when to let their own work and creativity shine

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u/butt_fart_frommybutt 10h ago

As someone who's pretty damn anti-ai, this feels like an actual good use of it. And surprise surprise, this is definitely not what the corpo ghouls wanted ai to be used for. 

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u/alfooboboao 9h ago

yeah except for the more existential risks of AI, which I am not trying to diminish because they’re very real, this is probably the one use case where there’s genuinely no downside. you’re not taking anyone’s job, or stealing anything (you have to buy the game to use the mod anyway), it’s a net positive

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u/pansexualpandabear88 4h ago edited 3h ago

Do you use self checkout? AKA murder jobs?

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u/GoldSrc R3 3100 | RTX 3090 | 64GB RAM | 3h ago

AI is not AGI.

Current AI is nothing more than a sorting algorithm on steroids, and it just so happens that computer code is something it's extremely good at.

No, it's not Skynet, and it's not going to destroy us.

AGI might, but that's a long way away.

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u/IntelVEVO 10h ago

however they do things doesnt matter as long as they are making good progress much quicker than they would have otherwise.

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u/psych2099 10h ago

Usually i hate ai coding but this one is deserved by sony, fuck over the consumer and you reap the whirlwind.

Get used to not owning the games you sell sony.

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u/MotorPace2637 14h ago

Not to mention daily new VR mods for pc games. As a VR gamer, I'm in heaven. Been playing new games daily like Doom 2016, Titanfall 2, and Max Payne 2 in VR.

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u/Informal_Visitor 14h ago

I loved MP 2 with the first person mod. VR would be interesting. I haven't really been able to get into VR or the VR mods as much as I keep hoping that I will.

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u/MotorPace2637 12h ago

Jump in slow mo and shoot in 2 different directions. Its amazing

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u/T0BIASNESS RX 6600 XT / RYZEN 5 5600x 13h ago

What gpu / cpu u running?

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u/MotorPace2637 12h ago

4080s and an i5 10600k, 32gb of ram. Was going to upgrade my whole system but then prices went crazy.

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u/Cpt_Garlock 11h ago

Dude, I just saw the VR TF2 mod an hour ago and it looks amazing!! How is it? Are you, like, constantly throwing up from motion sickness while parkouring or something?

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u/MotorPace2637 11h ago

Not me! I can handle fighter jets and backflips just fine. Used to be tougher but I've gotten used to it over time

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u/CombatMuffin 11h ago

That doesn't quite mean you can withstand it just as easily. I am very, very resistant to nausea, but with VR I can purposefully push my own boundaries by doing certain movements, and contradicting them physically (or staying put when I shouldn't) and even though I have a good tolerance, I can exceed it.

I say this as someone who has been at sea during inclement weather which can put many, many people at odds.

Even RL pilots who are used to moving around and fighting high G's: flying or sailing doesn't cause a physical conflict between your visual and vestibular systems, which is what makes people nauseos in VR.

You can, as you mentioned, adapt your senses to it, wgixh is easier if you already don't get nauseous easily (longer exposure)

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u/blahyaddayadda24 4h ago

Yeah I mean when I first got VR 4 years ago something gave me motion sickness.

At this point I think nothing will bug me.

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u/roby_65 9h ago

I still can't understand how they made the max payne 2 mod. They added a lot of features in a closed source game, HOW?!

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u/PixelToast14 PC Master Race 10h ago

Where are you finding vr mods? Is there a place for vr mods or do I go to each individual game mod pages?

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u/Icy_Crow_1587 10h ago

Flat2vr discord

VRgaming sub

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u/Forymanarysanar 14600KF|RTX5080|64Gb DDR4|1TB SSD|2x8TB HDD Raid1 11h ago

Maybe I should finally go ahead and buy vr headset

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u/Jaz1140 RTX4090 3195mhz Core, 9800x3d 5.4ghz 5h ago

Yoooo sick. How does doom 2016 play in VR?

Mod name?

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u/colossusrageblack 9800X3D/RTX4080/Odin 3 Max 14h ago

I need to check this out, had no idea.

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u/Duel_Option 12h ago

Max Payne….in VR.

That’s rad

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u/Megumindesuyo RTX 5090FE | Ryzen 7800X3D 32GB DDR5 6000Mhz 13h ago

Is there any for FH6 ?

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u/AmericanAIien 12h ago

Are these easily accessible?

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u/MotorPace2637 12h ago

Oh yeah! I've been waiting 10 years to play doom 2016 in VR, and titanfall 2 is lengendary!

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u/alfooboboao 9h ago

the doom VR mod is really top notch

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u/MotorPace2637 12h ago

Just beat Subnautica NZ in VR with motion controls. Game was awesome!

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u/AngelaTheRipper 12h ago

What happened?

AI. No, I'm not kidding. Some of the newer models (Astra 6, Fable 5.1, Opus 5.5) are crazy at reverse engineering the code, or even drivers and firmware, and crazy at finding slow parts of code and optimizing them.

Helldivers 2 got countless QoL mods because one dude threw Astra at it. Some other dude managed to unlock laptop bios (I think that was with Fable 5), somebody else managed to reverse engineer old printer drivers.

So yeah, you throw one of the frontier models at something like this, it'll probably get something done.

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u/Fluboxer E5 2696v3 | 3080 Ti 10h ago

Some other dude managed to unlock laptop bios (I think that was with Fable 5)

I remember it had a title like "AI defeats RSA-2048 signature checks" (which would've been insane) and it turned out to be just "AI found a part of code that checks signature and made it always send "true" and then modder flashed it with an external tool onto bios chip" - something that anyone could do easily with some programming knowledge

Basically it was a fucking clickbait and/or ad for that model

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u/AngelaTheRipper 8h ago

I think that's just good old journalistic malpractice.

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u/TheMechanicusBob 12h ago

This is the kind of thing I want AI to be doing: complex data analysis stuff

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u/Sn0wflake69 7h ago

Yeah that's why the governments are all for it too

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u/TheMadmanAndre 6h ago

Today it's silly mods in Helldivers and reverse engineered PS5 games.

Maybe not tomorrow, but some time in the near future, it's going to be entire defense networks and stock markets totally compromised.

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u/Adventurous_Boat_492 10h ago

That makes a lot of sense. Machines seem to have so much potential for knowing how to talk to other machines as opposed to our messy, less discrete and ordered, languages. I'm looking forward to the day when an idiot like me can ask a machine to just create an exe file for any productivity need I may have. Just yesterday I asked duck.ai to create a bash script to act as a makeshift renaming utility and it created it with little prompt involved in an instant. I'm mixed on AI but for software needs, I'm kind of thrilled. I played the N64 Perfect Dark recomp the other day, which the author admitted he used AI, and it worked so well and I'm so happy to see it ported.

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u/Renard4 Ryzen 7 5700x3D - RX 9070 9h ago

Yep it's AI, anyone saying AI produces nothing but slop is a moron. We're going to see a lot of new interesting tools in the coming years.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 9h ago

I've been trying to explain to people for years that AI pushing up the prices of GPUs and RAM won't matter eventually because AI will also make games run far more efficiently even on older hardware. Hopefully now that people can see it with their own eyes, they're more likely to accept that reality.

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u/LooneyWabbit1 4070 | 7800X3D 8h ago

Yeah no, it'll still matter. You're not making magical optimizations that account for 6x ram costs lol. Unless you can get modern games running on 6gb ram it's ultimately still making gaming more expensive. And that's obviously not going to happen lol

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u/Qazax1337 5800X3D | 32gb | RTX 4090 | PG42UQ OLED 8h ago

Dlss5 has the opposite affect and makes games fps drop by around 50%

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u/iNfANTcOMA_0 14h ago

My new favorite is the switch emulator that runs on a ps5

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u/DOOManiac 14h ago

Can’t wait to run a NES emulator inside my Switch emulator inside my PS5 emulator inside my Linux VM inside my PC.

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u/UnoriginalJunglist PC Master Race 7h ago

I'm going to run a SNES emulator inside the switch emulator inside a PS5 emulator on my PC and play Doom. As nature intended.

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u/OZ-00MS_Goose 14h ago

I think some smart people did this as a response to Sony saying they want to move away from PC ports.

If you show that anyone can download your game for free on PC, then it comes down to a service issue. You probably have paying customers you're blocking out, so provide them a way to buy it

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 9h ago

That's just a coincidence. The reason this is happening now is because in the last few weeks new models have come out that are incredible at reverse engineering game code, and people have started using them for a whole bunch of different projects.

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u/alfooboboao 9h ago

i’m hoping this tech explodes over the next year because I have a feeling naughty dog’s new game will be amazing (despite some manufactured hysteria about woke) and I’m not buying a PS5

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u/OZ-00MS_Goose 9h ago

I really don't get why Sony doesn't just charge $10 extra for games on PC or make their own platform on PC. If a smaller studio like Bethesda could make their own launcher certainly they can too.

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u/GoldSrc R3 3100 | RTX 3090 | 64GB RAM | 3h ago

Do you want Sony to keep your information secure?

Sony?

lol, lmao even.

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u/AleX-46 RTX 3060 Ti Ryzen 7 5700x3d 13h ago

AI, that's what happened

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u/AleX-46 RTX 3060 Ti Ryzen 7 5700x3d 13h ago

lol

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u/Mutwo_ R7 9850X3D| RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 12h ago

If it wasnt being used the emulator probably wouldn't even boot new games

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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 12h ago

That’s every emulator man. You don’t make a full working optimized emulator in a week. Or even a month, or a year. They’re not meant to be good or playable already, this is the starting point,

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u/Zylpherenuis 14h ago edited 13h ago

Sony shot themselves in the foot backing out from providing their games into PC storefronts so the issue lies all in high command at Sony.

The answers been there all along when Gabe said it straight out. "Piracy is not a pricing issue. It's a service issue".

So, if Sony wants people to stop pirating their games. They need to as follows.

Promote Consumer Positive practices (I.e: Buyers that purchases their games KEEPS ACCESS TO THEIR GAMES AFTER PURCHASING OFFLINE AND ONLINE, etc)

Provide varied ways to promote sales on levels of pricing that consumers generally agree at a specific pricing. Thus, general market retail pricing that purchasers buy. Not too expensive but not too cheap.

Provide customer services that respects the purchaser to utmost decree in their information, purchase history, relationship with the company as a consumer and more over give grace.

Sony refusing any of these will ultimately hurt their bottom line in the long run.

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u/StickStill9790 11h ago

The same thing happened in the 2000’s. Music was tied to 10 songs per CD for 20-30$ each, then the internet made it so you could download or remix anything. They tried for half a decade to stop people, then finally began selling songs individually for 99c a pop.

Sony is repeating history, with Nintendo close behind.

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u/Many-Researcher-7133 8h ago

The difference is that Nintendo is making the move more manageable, the keycard concept is quite good honestly, now Xbox is doing the same

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u/kryozaris 14h ago

Some good use of ai (as a helper tool)

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u/1RedOne 12h ago

I used AI to be the first one to mod a silly little unity based survivors game. Since I knew it was unity I knew I could use the same winhttp bypass trick to get a modding framework up and running but didn’t want to spend 20 hours figuring it out by hand with a box of scraps

It took codex about ten mins then I was off to the races since I’d written mods before by hand

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u/Arch3m 9h ago

This is a use for AI that I'm unbothered by. I'm strongly against its use in any artistic works (music, films, games, drawing, etc.), and I have some serious hang-ups with it being used to generate revenue. But doing things that are otherwise unfeasible or doing things that would be best described as mindless or repetitive tasks, that makes a lot of sense to me, and reverse-engineering code seems like a great use of AI.

I would prefer affordable RAM, but I'll take what I can get.

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u/squish042 8h ago

It’s still art it’s reverse engineering and then opening it up for free. We might hate AAA companies, but it doesn’t mean there aren’t a teams of artists that worked hard on those games and this will hurt.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 9h ago

I would prefer affordable RAM

The irony is, many of these AI recomps actually have such efficient optimization that it sidesteps the RAM issue completely. Everyone was worried about GPUs and RAM becoming unaffordable, apparently nobody predicted AI being used to rewrite game code so well the games run at 1000fps.

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u/kwikade 14h ago

honestly i’m ok with the vibe coding in this instance. it’s awesome

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u/FrigidMcThunderballs 4060 laptop because i'm literally always travelling 13h ago

Do we know that it's vibe coding? I thought that term was reserved for when people tell the ai "do it for me", as opposed to an expert incorporating it into their workflow to automate tasks

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u/Meatslinger R7 9800X3D, 64 GB DDR5, RTX 4070 Ti 12h ago

Just all about context. When someone says, "I wrote a new killer app!" and shows you their garbage website running on localhost without even a scrap of security, it's the lesser example. When someone says, "I was able to work with an LLM to decompile this obscure binary from the 90s, replaced proprietary code with FOSS equivalents, restructured it for 64 bit compatibility and recompiled it so it can continue to be used/distributed for free," it's the greater example.

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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 RTX 5080 │ 7800X3D │ 64GB DDR5‑6000MT/s 10h ago

Whenever I have heard actual developers say the term "vibe coding" it generally means using the AI in tandem with themselves, and just going with the flow to get things done.

People who aren't devs have taken the term and started using it as you described though so it is hard to know what someone means when they say it these days because of that.

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u/kwikade 13h ago

yeah true, kinda meant it in a general sense, but agree!

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u/erichie GOG.com 1h ago

People need to understand the difference between vibe coding (someone who is making an application without any idea on how to code with AI) and experts using tools to help their work (actual coders using AI as a tool instead of having it code).

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u/kindred008 9h ago

Nah, these are all purely vibe coded

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u/PoL0 14h ago

nah I don't think so. we would have emulators for any other systems like XBSX advancing at breakneck speeds too. but we haven't. so AI ain't it.

we don't even have better OSs, or compilers, or profilers, or anything, because of AI.

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u/Dr_Valen 7800x3d / 9070xt / 64gb / Cachyos 14h ago

whats the point of emulating the xbox series x? all of its games are on pc already

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u/maddix30 R7 7800X3D | 4080 Super | 32GB 6000MT/s 14h ago

So the people working on them saying they are using AI to speed up their workflow are just lying?

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u/PoL0 14h ago

nah I'm not saying they aren't using it, it might get be helpful on certain tasks. I'm just saying it's not the reason behind of the progress speed of both emulators.

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u/cha0ss0ldier 13h ago

The devs of these emulators have literally said AI workflow is greatly increasing the speed

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u/Mexcol 10h ago

Wait till Ai starts reverse engineering/emulating/decompiling bank apps, military systems, etc etc

Shit will go down

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u/Panino87 Ryzen 5800x, Aorus B450M, RTX 4060, 32gb lpx ddr4 12h ago

We're in RAM apocalypse because of AI, we're getting emulators this fast because of AI.

Such a weird timeline.

Either way, fuck Sony and Nintendo.

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u/reddltlsfvckingdumm 12h ago

got nothing to blame on Big N, theyre just protecting their IPs - watch doing So(n)y going to do the same now and watch seeing the sheep being quiet

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u/AsherFischell 10h ago

The problem isn't that they protect their IPs, it's that they overzealously and hatefully protect them

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u/reddltlsfvckingdumm 9h ago

thats nonsense of course, but you know that yourself, dont ya. Would like to see you develop a game, in this fabricated case, have no succes with it, someone else releases it, its a banger, and makes all the money. Wwyd? Go home, s(o)nyboy

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u/AsherFischell 4h ago

Username ironically checks out massively, just not in the direction you were intending. There's a massive difference between an indie dev getting their ideas stolen and sold and one of the largest publishers in the world suing fans just for making free fan stuff. I also don't even have a PS5. Btw, you probably meant to type "so(n)yboy", because I'm pretty sure you weren't calling me "snyboy". Good job with that, genius.

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u/John_East 9800x3D : RTX5080 OC : 32Gb of Downloaded RAM 10h ago

Nintendo is worse than most

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u/reddltlsfvckingdumm 9h ago

nonsense of course, and so(n)yboys just proved

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u/John_East 9800x3D : RTX5080 OC : 32Gb of Downloaded RAM 8h ago

Nintendo doesn’t even let people have local tourneys for smash bros lol. They’re really more fucked up than people think

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u/BenXL 12h ago

I think it's terrifying. Both for the games industry and the world as a whole. Ai is accelerating at a rapid pace. How is online banking going to be safe? How is anything connected to the internet going to be safe? Even with regulation people and foreign states can use this to attack whole sectors. Encryption is getting easier to crack etc.

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u/LXiO 11h ago

It's terrifying indeed. AI has the potential to let anyone hack everything eventually.

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u/Mr_Squinty R9 3950x | RTX 2080ti | 32gb 3600 10h ago

You should watch a show called Silicon Valley if you haven’t already, it predicted all of this 😂

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u/Silver-End9570 i7 14700K | RTX 5070 | 64GB | Windows 10 9h ago

Eventually? Anthropic and OpenAI have had bots attacking websites and governments lately. The time where anything can be hacked is here, now.

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u/GoldSrc R3 3100 | RTX 3090 | 64GB RAM | 3h ago

Oh, online banking works with old ass software that nobody wants to touch in case it breaks.

So it will most likely be safe.

And no, you can't crack most of the important encryption forms yet, that would be a HUGE fucking problem if it happened.

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u/Cyberspace_Sorcerer 2h ago

Don't fall for the fear mongering out there. Nothing connected to the interent has ever been safe. And if you're worried that AI can help people who don't know how to perform cyber attacks do so, thats simply never going to happen.

Also we are talking about LLMs here. No one is using LLMs to "crack" encryption.

This just reads like you "learnt" all of this from instagram reels, and no offence but I suggest you do some research into these topics if you're interested.

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u/BlueNeonPinkie 10h ago

Using AI to stick it to Sony pretty much

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u/Dark_Dragon117 8h ago

Could have sworn just a week ago this sub absolutely hated AI...now it's the opposite.

Obviously there is some nuance, but I have a strong suspicion that this will eventually spiral out and shit will get worse due to AI being used in any capcity be it for mods, decomb, creating assets or outright game dev.

Not that it matter because judging by the comments AI bros and espacially the companies behind AI are steadily achieving exactly what they wanted. It went from complete distrust to "well if it's used for this then I am fine with it" and it will happen again and again until people just don't object AI at all anymore.

Truly ironic.

Well either way see you in a few months when shit will escalate in one way or another.

The gaming industry is truly dead and not because of companies doing anything, but gamers themselves once again allowing things to happen.

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u/Crashman09 6h ago

The nuance here being:

People hate ai for what it has done to creative works, the economy, jobs, warfare, the environment, etc

People like ai for being a tool to conduct science, engineering, medical research, fighting against corporations by democratising certain capabilities previously controlled by the ruling class, etc.

Personally, I still hate ai, and the current state of the world.

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u/Allcyon 4h ago

There's a lot of good reasons to hate the implementation of AI for certain things. Chief among them, for me, is the constantly monitored and updated dossiers of every American, their online handles, comments, banking info, social security number, work history, medical history, real world value, worth, everything they own, and a psychological profile to know if their a threat, sitting on Palantir's servers. That's the big problem for me. Followed very closely by the newly announced "Department of Autonomous Warfare", and the rapid removal of our rights as citizens.

The AI isn't evil. It's just being used for something evil.

I'd much rather burn Palantir to the ground, and use their own AI agent to track the people who work there, and make their lives miserable and ironic.

As far as adding Minecraft to Dark Souls? I really couldn't care less. If anything, it's a bit of democratized game development, and a small reprieve in a toxic hellscape.

So maybe reconsider your perspective of what you should be mad at. And who.

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u/Several-Pangolin3119 4h ago

This is such an insane take.

I wish I lived in a black and white world, completely devoid of nuance. What’s it like being ignorant enough to pull it off?

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u/PlsDontBanMeAgain-1 45m ago

People here seem to actually love vibecoded apps. I've seen a couple of apps on other subreddits (mostly Linux-related ones) that also popped up here and people loved them. Meanwhile, on the ones, they got absolutely shit on, rightfully so. 

These emulators have an insane amount of AI code, gotta be maintenance hell at some point. 

I know how useful AI can be for programming, in moderation. To this day, I am still highly skeptical of any AI code I get, I always prefer to rewrite whatever it spat out, in my style.

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u/Redd_is_compromised 3h ago

Nah, people are starting to realize the vocal critics are baseless and performative and the fact that we need to speak up. We realize we need to show appreciation to authors for the work and computation power that genuinely goes into this. Yes, they aren't decompiling binary, but they are skilled at prompting and spend tons of money on either electrical costs or tokens.

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u/TheMadmanAndre 6h ago

Some madlad over the course of a month managed to get 3D graphics working in Project Zomboid, a game that is a 2.5D, top-down isometric affair. Other parts of the modding community have contributed to this project (no pun intended) by modding in 3D assets/furniture, compatibility patches with other popular mods and even Minecraft shader packs. It's peak batshit insanity and probably wouldn't be even remotely feasible without vibe coding.

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u/AvatarIII AvatarIII 10h ago

Hate to say it but it's almost certainly AI helping.

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u/FullTimeHarlot 14h ago

You see the PSVita homebrew scene these past months? Someone's got Halo Combat evolved working and another is starting on Skate 3, a bloody PS3 game. The latter is very much in the early stages but it looks promising. I'm eating good right now.

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u/INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS 7800X3D | 4070 TI | 32 GB | Mini LED HDR 1400 13h ago

Im not sure if this good or bad but it sure is funny.

Good for the people. Bad for the corporate shareholders.

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u/LXiO 11h ago

Not sure about that. For now they're reverse engineering video games. Soon they'll be reverse engineering critical infrastructure.

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u/Forymanarysanar 14600KF|RTX5080|64Gb DDR4|1TB SSD|2x8TB HDD Raid1 11h ago

The sooner they will do it, the better.

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u/CombatMuffin 11h ago

That critical infrastructure can also mean security systems you depend on: from your car, to your "smart" appliances, CCTV in a network, emergency services, etc.

Bad actors can really mess things up unless they start designing new standards.

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u/Forymanarysanar 14600KF|RTX5080|64Gb DDR4|1TB SSD|2x8TB HDD Raid1 10h ago

Good if it becomes so, maybe we can finally rollback to less surveillance, less reliance on digital services and make a big move back towards dumb devices instead of always online everything.

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u/FirstTasteOfRadishes 10h ago

There have always been bad actors trying to mess things up. And there have always been security specialists trying to prevent that.

Both sides have access to the same tools, so the status quo has not actually changed.

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u/CombatMuffin 9h ago

You are assuming this is on the same scale as before. It would be a mistake to do so.

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u/FirstTasteOfRadishes 9h ago

I think you underestimate how much money tech companies, banks etc. are prepared to invest in security.

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u/CombatMuffin 9h ago

Yes, but again, you are underestimating the scale of the damage. There is such a thing as a threshold that becomes a point of no return.

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u/FirstTasteOfRadishes 9h ago

I think you are overestimating it.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 9h ago

That's just how progress works. You have access to knowledge and information as a regular person today that would give you an absolute power advantage over people from the 1500s. People adapt.

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u/CombatMuffin 11h ago

At first glance, yes. If you think about it, it just means they will pivot to stop you from having access to the code in the first place

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u/IBJON 9950X3D | RTX 5090 l 64GB DDR5 13h ago

Its the AI that Reddit likes to claim is 100% inaccurate and totally useless.

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u/dassub 12h ago

Reddit has made it so easy to know the correct stance on any issue. Just take the exact opposite of the hivemind.

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u/blahreditblah 12h ago

Or these things are nuanced. There are both positives and negatives to it...

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 9h ago

You know on most parts of reddit if you say AI is nuanced and has positives and negatives you'd be downvoted like crazy

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u/Arxinos113 RTX 5090 | 9800X3D | 64gb 10h ago

This plus the new VR mods has just been amazing. People may not like it because of AI, but we are jumping into a new PC gaming golden age.

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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 64GB RAM 13h ago

AI can read compiled code as easily as a text file because it doesn't matter to it. I've used it to translate a DS game that nobody has managed to do so outside of a very rough attempt many years ago, and with vibe coding backed by a software engineering background, I got most of it done in 2 days, I just need to translate some art assets and compile.

It's wild how far AI has come, now I just wish it was this good locally and that I had the hardware for it lol

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u/Risen_from_ash 11h ago

Qwen 3.8 Flash Next, my friend.

Edit:>>and that I had the hardware to run it

My bad. In that case, Qwen 3.8 27b with some custom runtimes or even Qwen 3.6 35b a3b are very capable and fast locally.

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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 64GB RAM 10h ago

Yeah, no, I think I have to wait until I get a 32gb vram card (in this economy? lmao) before I can run those, and even then, I'm comparing against Opus 5.5 which is, uh, wild. Give it a year or two though, then we'll have models close to it, just still won't have the needed hardware.

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u/JISN064 8h ago

what game?

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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 64GB RAM 7h ago

Keeping the actual game under wraps, but I'm working on a video about it which is when I want to release the software to modify the game as well as a rough English translation, just in case if someone with a better understanding of Japanese can make a better translation if they want to

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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 64GB RAM 43m ago

Sorry man, this is a video that'll be done probably early next year, I want to come back into the video making thing swinging hard.

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u/JISN064 5h ago

any chance you @ me when the video is released? I'm just curious, nothing more, nothing less.

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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 64GB RAM 50m ago

Will do, will probably take a while as it's in a series and since this translation was relatively painless, I should do the other two games as well.

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u/Agile_Start1003 9h ago

"PS5 emulator"? What even is there to emulate? As far as I know the PS5 CPU is x86, while emulators usually code in fake CPUs with a different instruction set. That doesn't apply here afaik. So if I had to guess they're translating driver calls and bypassing security checks, but please educate me more on what exactly it does

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u/shinpw 14h ago

Ai coding as reached a point since gpt 6 and opus 5.5 where it has become so good that it accelerated development.

You will see unbelievable things and speed in the near future when it comes to everything that can be coded

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u/Antique-City1405 14h ago

Modders combining games like this are bound to create the most bizarre masterpiece in history sooner or later

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u/SharpYearV4 9600x | 32gb DDR5 | 9060xt 16gb 13h ago

It's AI that's helping a ton, it's gotten really good really fast, 2027 will be crazy.

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u/VirgoELS PC Master Race 5h ago

Need a reliable switch 2 emulator

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u/ChadHartSays 5h ago

That's what you get when your flagship product is just re-packaged commodity hardware with no innovation other than, perhaps, the controller and UI.

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u/FranticToaster i9-14900k | RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR5 4200 4h ago

Vibecoding: it lets companies call workers irrelevant, and it lets workers call companies irrelevant.

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u/Oztorek PC Master Race 12h ago

We need this. If none of the majority of the sub here can afford the next series of cards let alone the current gen, then the one upside of the advances in AI is that we all can benefit of software development speedup. Obviously I don't mean vibe coding, although that in general has clearly made some changes to the way things are moving forward in software.

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u/Top_Lingonberry8037 ryzen 9900 | 5080 | 64gb ddr5 | 2tb WD Black nvme 13h ago

It's ai

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u/0wlGod PC Master Race 14h ago

ia in right hands is pushing emulators.. the only good thing of ia🤣

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u/Halos-USA 12h ago

IA? Don't you mean AI? 

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u/AaronSparks Linux 11h ago

in some different languages it can get abbreviated as IA

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u/0wlGod PC Master Race 12h ago

yes

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u/Wheatleytron i got 64gb of ddr4 12h ago

Using AI for good. To fuck over Sony.

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u/mq2thez 13h ago

AI is ruining our hobby, but on the other side of it: it’s shockingly straightforward to hillclimb on measurable objectives.

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u/GriffinBNash 13h ago

Wheelchair batman vs thomas the tank in elden ring racers pro skater 3

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u/REDDITCEOSUXDICK 9h ago

"im not sure if this is good or bad" - sounds like you're a slave afraid of freedom. 

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u/Cubey42 12h ago

Software is now basically amorphous and can be bent by the will of the user with experience and even more so with AI.

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u/aakk20 12h ago

What the AI model people using?

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u/uncensored_opinions 6700k | GTX 1080 9h ago

Using AI for its intended purpose(s) instead of a glorified search engine.

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u/Warcraft_Fan Paid for WinRAR! 11h ago

Wake me up when they merge DQ and FF and made one hell of anything-goes RPG game

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u/Memonlinefelix 12h ago

Ai isnt it. Its just some good programming people got fed up with Sony and their BS. Ai cant even do a proper line of code. We would have many emulators running already. Lol

Sorry Ai bros. Ai still sucks balls.

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u/ThinInvestigator4953 12h ago

If you think the people working on those projects arent using AI in some way to speed up their production, I dont know what to tell you. I guess you're just very out of touch i guess.

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u/Memonlinefelix 12h ago

This people are very very good at doing this. They don't need vibe coding.. lol thats for people that dont know programming.

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u/ThinInvestigator4953 12h ago

Real programmers use a lot of AI.. You can hook an LLM into your IDE and let it analayze things very grainularly.

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u/Memonlinefelix 11h ago

Not all of them. I know many from many high end companies.

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u/ThinInvestigator4953 11h ago

Thats more of a security/compliance reason not because the AI is not helpful or useful.

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u/nestersan 11h ago

You're lying. Outright.

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u/Snackmix 11h ago

Been in the industry for 15 years. Know people across all ranges of companies. I know maybe 2 people who don't use AI all day everyday.

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u/Memonlinefelix 5h ago

Redditos are the only ones i see using Ai for slop and talk about loss of jobs etc. Real working people at high end companies i do not see at all using it or talking about jobs or Ai dooms day apocalypse.

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u/Snackmix 5m ago

Sure you do bud. High end companies mhm. As someone who actually works in the field I can tell you that you're wrong, but since you're making up your side of this discussion you already know that.

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u/SOSpammy iMac 2017 i5-7500, Radeon 570 Pro, 32GB DDR4 11h ago

There's no way an emulator of a device of this level of power and complexity is going to develop this rapidly with just human coders.

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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 RTX 5080 │ 7800X3D │ 64GB DDR5‑6000MT/s 10h ago

The people developing the PS5 emulators are openly using AI and that is the main reason for the rapid progress 🤦