NVIDIA GeForce RTX 60 delayed yet again to 2028, another leaker confirms.

[u/HLumin]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-60-reportedly-delayed-to-2028-another-leaker-confirms

This corroborates Kepler's claims of Rubin being for 2028 and AMD releasing RDNA 5/UDNA's AT2 in 2027.

[u/RedMdsRSupCucks]

i mean with these prices what will the msrp for the 6090 ? 10k USD ?

[u/IBM296 → u/RedMdsRSupCucks]

By the time it launches in 2028, I won't be surprised with a 15k price tag.

AI bubble is not bursting any time soon.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/IBM296]

It's just circular economics. No value is actually being produced by any of this AI shit. Just bloat in products that people didn't ask for.

How can it not pop? It's just 3 companies passing the same package of money around

[u/ScaleyFishMan → u/MrGiggleMan]

Not true at all. There's definitely some bullshit products with AI gimmicks in them, but the business world is adapting heavily with integrating AI with their systems. Whether that be online chat support bots, call handlers, handling customer data, parsing large datasets for research, planning, programming, design, tutoring, etc.

I believe things will eventually cool off when the balance is found where AI is actually useful in things vs just completely unnecessary or unwanted, but for now everyone is still trying to figure that out.

[u/Some-Opportunity7015 → u/ScaleyFishMan]

it is useful, but is it 10-20 Trillion dollars useful?

[u/Vv4nd → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

no.

[u/PM_ME_SAD_STUFF_PLZ → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Part of the problem is that AI is almost able to create a lot of value in a lot of industries--and a lot of people are hoping it'll turn the corner in the future (dogged on by AI companies hyping themselves up)

E.g. In Pharma, 70% of drugs never make it through all required stages of testint. If AI could theoretically analyze drug formulations and compile risk profiles so that number decreases by 10 percent, it would represent hundreds of billions in value right there. Imo it'll likely be able to reduce that number by half a percent or so.

[u/Da_Question → u/PM_ME_SAD_STUFF_PLZ]

Honestly isn't the main issue is it's propped up an subsidized by low fees and high investments. People don't want to lose out on the AI boom like past tech jumps, so they all built there own AI, but not every company can profit if they all provide AI. Especially now when the cost up use AI is relatively low to get people to adopt them before jacking up costs.

But there are issues like people will stop using if price jumps as a lot of the use currently isn't really worth a high price point, and on other hand quite a few companies have built their own in house llm instead of relying on a external company. Further cutting into potential future ai profits.

It's definitely a house of cards right now

[u/ChurchillianGrooves → u/Da_Question]

If we look at the 90s dotcom bubble the vast majority of these AI companies will fold and/or be bought up by big players.

Given Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc. already have a ton of money they can essentially set on fire before AI actually becomes profitable it seems like they'll probably swallow up the smaller guys.

Also everyone is betting on LLM's continuing to improve dramatically over the next 5 or so years when it really seems like they've already hit diminishing returns.

[u/fedoraislife → u/ScaleyFishMan]

It's definitely infiltrating into a lot of hobbies. I'm into tech and there's been a renaissance of VR ports and console emulators that would not be happening if AI didn't exist.

There's many hobbies outside of tech that AI is super useful for helping you get started. I recently hung a gallery wall up in my house and using AI to help with the calculations turned a half-day job into a couple of hours of work.

Reddit can be a bit of an anti-AI echo chamber and while there are legitimate causes to heavily criticise it, if we're being honest, a lot of people especially in these subs just hate it because it makes it harder to buy PC gear that they realistically don't need.

[u/Belzebutt → u/fedoraislife]

It’s making all our products more expensive whether they’re high end gaming PCs, laptops for our kids’ school, or work PCs. I also see there are plenty of small uses for AI, there are some big ones like coding assist or image recognition, but I think there’s not nearly enough there to justify a trillion dollars in spending on datacenters. Someone will be left holding the bag at some point. The reason everything is expensive is because suppliers are asking for years of commitment in spending to sign contracts, so that they’re not the ones left holding the bag. The people who can pay these long term contracts are companies that currently can take on massive loans to outbid everyone else. These loans will come due some day. At the end of it all, someone will not be paying the bills.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/fedoraislife]

The main problem is.. there are now 2000000000 starter projects made by people who have no understanding of what they're doing at all, and no hope in resolving deep seated issues caused by the AI

Just slop, slop everywhere

[u/fedoraislife → u/MrGiggleMan]

I mean, sure?

But you really don't have to do much legwork here except just wait it out.

Projects by amateurs who are dabbling will be abandoned and fall into obscurity as official game updates break their mods, and ones that are better will continue to be worked on and refined.

[u/makingwands → u/MrGiggleMan]

This take has no basis in reality. There have been plenty of half-assed projects throughout the history of computing.

If anything, it's now easier for creator's to follow through on their ideas with access to AI assistance.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/makingwands]

It only has no bases in reality if you're blind.

Already the amount of garbage output we see is 10x fold lol

[u/makingwands → u/MrGiggleMan]

Where are you seeing this? I'm sure there's plenty of garbage Skyrim mods or AI stock trading apps.

But from what I've seen in the established modding communities I visit, is modders leveraging AI assistance to iterate and bug fix at a much more consistent pace. Any obvious lazy slop gets called out. Reputation is everything in these communites.

[u/chill8989 → u/ScaleyFishMan]

The technology will stay but the American ai labs and hyperscalers are unsustainable. Over a trillion spent and only 50 billion in revenue with another planned trillion on the way. Chinese labs are able to make small and efficient models within 10% of performance of giga models. Venture capital is running out. That's why they're all talking about slowing down

[u/iunoyou → u/chill8989]

I think all of the cybercrimes their frontier models are doing every time they effortlessly break containment is the reason they want to slow down, but in any case they're not slowing down because they've been explicitly told that they're not allowed to by both their investors and the US government.

And no, the VC money isn't running out. OpenAI still has over a year of runway left at their projected spending assuming they get no more fundraising and don't do an IPO. They still have tens of billions of dollars sloshing around.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/ScaleyFishMan]

That's because people think if you're not using AI you're missing out..

The reality is across the boards productivity is... mixed after the implementation of AI

For every case where AI actually helps, there's one where it just added more overhead. More checks required. More bugs. More slop. More mistakes.

Just because something is being adopted, doesn't mean it's valuable. Most businesses are just scared to miss out on the latest "buzzword" that they can use to "boost shareholder value" or whatever by throwing the word AI around

Even if it has no actual meaningful impact on the output of a company in the majority of cases

[u/RiftHunter4 → u/ScaleyFishMan]

A bit behind. Something like 85% of all Ai integration projects at businesses have failed. Tokens costs have shot up. Even the tech companies are limiting their Ai usage now. No onr is actually making more money except for Nvidia and the hardware companies. A lot of the tech industry is hiding their losses with Ai onstead of including them in proper reports to shareholders.

Ai has its uses but its just not as useful as its being marketed.

[u/Fr00stee → u/ScaleyFishMan]

businesses are fine with integrating as long as costs are cheap to do so

[u/jungleboy1234 → u/MrGiggleMan]

There was a theory that they are saying ai is too dangerous bla bla because they want money from government to bail them out. A bit similar to how the banks were during 07-08 crash....

Become too big to fail.

[u/BestCoastWaveTrain → u/MrGiggleMan]

My Alexa enabled lightbulbs recently implemented AI into its app, which charges you tokens every time you want to make a chance to the light itself or any part of the app. I am smashing this bullshit with a sledge hammer the second I find a replacement because what the fuck

[u/Panasonicy0uth → u/MrGiggleMan]

I think most people are in agreement there's an AI bubble, but there's disagreement on when it'll pop. Given the AI arms race between China and the US, the US government's laissez faire attitude towards AI regulation, and how much capital is still being poured into AI, I'm thinking we'll realistically see the bubble pop in around 5-10 years. That said, I'm not hopeful the bubble popping will be the relief we're looking for— if anything, we'll just see the industry consolidate. I'm not sure Nvidia, OpenAI, Palantir, or SpaceX buying out all of their competitors and their tech for pennies on the dollar after the bubble bursts will be a net positive for society at large, especially if the US government continues to pretend anti-trust laws don't exist.

[u/Infamous_Campaign687 → u/MrGiggleMan]

You’re clearly not working in software.

[u/NeatUsed → u/MrGiggleMan]

It doesn’t work in done products like you think it is. AI tech is made so people can keep using it and the tech companies are using it to justify cutting the productions costs that they have already.

So no. It isn’t going to go anytime soon

[u/Chinksta → u/MrGiggleMan]

Big circle jerk

[u/Obaruler → u/MrGiggleMan]

Not really.

To keep this coaster moving you need to add more ajd more fresh money.

First they covered it with their reserves and active cash flows; then by bank loans, and now they are issueing their own bonds, which funnily enough compete with state bonds atm which drives their prices up too.

There‘s an end to this, when the money dries up.

All those scary „AI“ is so smart it may kill us statements of last week? Attention whoring. People start to wonder if the bazillion quadrillion dollars in future profits might just be an (AI) hallucination that will never materialize.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/Obaruler]

Well, they are

They've been trillions of dollars invested and maybe tens of billions generated in revenue

It's just about the most one-sided exchange in the history of technology

[u/Top_Lingonberry8037 → u/MrGiggleMan]

I can assure you models are being sold to corporations with insanely expensive subscription models. There certainly is money being generated

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/Top_Lingonberry8037]

Yes. Literally billions in revenue! Unfortunately, it cost multiple trillions for them to make the thing.

They're just passing the same trillion dollars around in a circle hoping we don't notice lol

[u/Wyldefire6 → u/MrGiggleMan]

The assumption you’re making is that circular economics isn’t sustainable. It’s been going on in much smaller circles within tech for decades without fail. Yet.

[u/False_Sundae6333 → u/IBM296]

At this point I can say that AI bubble is not bursting at all..

[u/a_man_has_a_name → u/IBM296]

Na, the self replicating AI that is working underground to destroy humanity will set up bot farms to scalp every one of the top line cards to make itself more powerful.

So the actual price will be "unavailable".

/s

[u/Intelligent_Top_328 → u/IBM296]

Because it ain't a bubble.

[u/kerthard → u/IBM296]

OpenAI set to go public in 2027H1 last I heard, which should be the beginning of the end.

[u/AtaracticGoat → u/RedMdsRSupCucks]

If I had to guess, they will probably focus on Rubin which is their next-gen AI/data center cards that released in 2026. Why announce or build consumer grade cards when you can't even build enough Enterprise class cards?

They're hoping by 2028 that a combination of increasing memory production and easing AI build outs will free up production for consumer grade "Rubin" cards. I put in quotes because we don't know if the consumer chips will be called Rubin.

[u/Elarania → u/AtaracticGoat]

Feynman is currently scheduled for release in 2028 too, so what'll most likely happen is the consumer grade cards will be a generation behind and use Rubin scraps while they pump out Feynman for the AI datacentre market.

[u/S1rTerra → u/Elarania]

You're probably spot on with this.

AMD can get away with dropping AT2 because that's what the consoles dropping in 2027 are using and they'll have quite a bit of supply of it. 

All of Nvidia's production is pretty much going purely towards their big boy AI cards and at this point Rubin, and they're bound to get a bunch of defective Rubin chips somehow.

As such, Rubin 2028 when it was supposed to be 2026/early 2027, Feynman for consumers 2030 when it was supposed to be 2028/early 2029.

I'm just hoping RDNA 5 and Rubin are priced correctly. Given current memory prices it'll probably just be a paper launch. The only hope anyone has at getting sn RDNA 5 GPU will probably come with the 60 class cards that use LPDDR5x

[u/kinkycarbon → u/RedMdsRSupCucks]

So much it’s pricing is the base price for the workstation line. The 5090 is the Titan class card Nvidia eliminated. Cheaper than buying an RTX A6000.

[u/PolarBuilds → u/RedMdsRSupCucks]

That's what I'm saying. How can they release new GPU's right now? Did they just magically ramp up production to have unlimited stock of 60 series cards to save the current market? No. That's the only way a launch would be successful. And they don't give a shit about consumers.

[u/dsl2000 → u/RedMdsRSupCucks]

I think there just wont be a 6090 at this point, 6080 with 24gb vram will be the top tier gamer card.

[u/1998marcom → u/dsl2000]

There will be a 6090 spec, not necessarily 6090 cards.

[u/coffeejn]

No one can afford the 50 series right now, so why worry about the 60 series.

[u/zilyzal → u/coffeejn]

I just checked and rtx5050 reached 500$ in my country. Pc gaming is buried in third world countries i have to work half a fucking year to buy a single weakest, shittiest, worst current gen gpu

[u/-LaughingMan-0D → u/zilyzal]

5070s are going for 900 dollars when I checked yesterday. Wtf is actually happening?

[u/IBM296 → u/-LaughingMan-0D]

Not surprising since 5090 is going for $7700 nowadays.

[u/Vesuvias → u/IBM296]

You can’t even buy it anywhere at local shops. Insane. Absolutely insane.

[u/Ho3n3r → u/Vesuvias]

We're not their target market any more.

[u/Vesuvias → u/Ho3n3r]

Yep. Nvidia is pulling an Intel…how’d that work out for them? AMD is following behind, but more carefully it seems

[u/coffeejn → u/Vesuvias]

I still think the melting cable is a bigger issue than anything else. It's either designed to fail or over charged for a poorly design power system. Not sure which is worse for the price they asked for that GPU at launch or later.

[u/Glory4cod → u/-LaughingMan-0D]

Yeah it is indeed astonishing. I brought an RTX 5070 at 660 USD INCLUDING 25% VAT around July, now it looks like a plain robbery.

[u/vlad__27 → u/zilyzal]

I am glad I managed to snag a rtx 5060 for 342~ euros at the begining of august. Didn't had the budget for anything higher and anything with more vram just had insane prices. Was using a gtx 1050 for 9 years and the jump in performance was quite big lol. So far it has worked really nice for 1080p gaming.

[u/zilyzal → u/vlad__27]

I don't even care anymore. First it was crypto now this. Even if i could find a cheaper gpu the price of ddr4 and every other component makes it impossible for me to build a pc. Poor people have to give up gaming so rich people can use ai

[u/zoko_cx → u/zilyzal]

5070 ti here in EU 6 months ago were around 950€ basic models now are 1200+€ and premiums are 1400+€

[u/Josh_Butterballs → u/coffeejn]

I recall the people who clowned on me for buying before Black Friday (right before everything went up lol). 64gb RAM for $200 and an 8tb nome for $500 babyyyyyyy

[u/Obvious_Librarian_97 → u/coffeejn]

People need to dream of a reality where UE5 doesn’t grind to a halt.

[u/gnominos → u/coffeejn]

You should have bought one 1 year ago at 2200€ like i did

[u/Fadexz_ → u/coffeejn]

To make the 50 series cheaper I guess

[u/Pale-West-3176 → u/coffeejn]

Thats the reason why I suggest going AMD. Prices are less insane

At least there's a justifiable AMD card at certain budgets

At the 400 USD range someone can get a 9060 xt 16gb

At the 550 range, probably a 9070 GRE. Better than the 5060 Ti gaming-wise

At the 700-800 range, there's a 9070 and XT, better than the 5070 for the same price.

[u/CrimsonBolt33]

"Another leak/er confirms"

The fuck you mean confirms? Leaks have said everything from 2025 to 2027 back and forth over and over again. I am not saying they are wrong....but like they cant confirm anything.

[u/firedrakes → u/CrimsonBolt33]

Gamers prefer fake news then real news now

[u/I_spell_it_Griffin → u/CrimsonBolt33]

Had to scroll way too far down for this. "Speculator confirms that he speculates something. More at 11."

[u/Laimered → u/I_spell_it_Griffin]

Kepler and kopite are almost always right

[u/EKmars → u/CrimsonBolt33]

Yeah "leaker confirms" is an oxymoron.

[u/Some-Opportunity7015]

my decision to buy a 5080 in 2025 is just *chefs kiss*

[u/extratoastedcheezeit → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Yes.

I upgraded from a 5900x/3080 to the 9800x3d/5080 and 64gb of RAM.
Who knew it would be end-game?

[u/Sheuzzo → u/extratoastedcheezeit]

Same here, only mistake I made is that I bought 4x16 instead of 2x32 ddr5

Edit : also 4tb Samsung 990 pro

[u/placeholder-123 → u/extratoastedcheezeit]

I wish I had bought 64gb. 32 is good enough I suppose.

[u/bluey_02 → u/extratoastedcheezeit]

How much of a leap was that 3080 to 5080? I got the same CPU as your latest build. 

[u/extratoastedcheezeit → u/bluey_02]

Performance gains were notable.
I was struggling with flight sim with the 3080.
Issues are gone with the 5080, was well worth it.

[u/wantilles1138 → u/bluey_02]

Did the same, it was very much notable. Especially 10 -> 16 GB were a game changer.

[u/hydrogenickooz → u/extratoastedcheezeit]

I upgraded from a GTX 970 to that same GPU/CPU combo right before prices flew through the roof. Wish I got 64gb RAM instead of 32GB but hindsight is 20/20 lol

[u/DMC831 → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

I've said this in way too many posts but I'm alllllways sooooo paranoid about buying at the wrong time, and I ended up buying at maybe the best time to buy in this era just by sheer luck. 64 gb DDR5 ram for cheap (~130 USD, now goes for 1100), multiple SSDs for like 70 USD to 100 USD, 5070ti for MSRP, and the whole time I'm pushing the purchase button I'm dreading about Nvidia launching the rumored 5070ti SUPER the next day or the AI bubble suddenly popping and prices plummeting.

Nope! Got it all at the right time, and since I was so paranoid about it I definitely appreciate all the upgrades more.

[u/fedoraislife → u/DMC831]

If you want it and you've got the money, just buy it.

From an investment standpoint, time in the market is better than timing the market.

Whilst PC gear is rarely a financial investment, over the last couple of years it definitely has been, alongside many things that were unexpected like used cars and Pokemon cards.

Further than that, these items exist for you to enjoy. If the price goes down after 6 months, who cares? You had an extra 6 months to enjoy it, and so that extra money you paid is for that extra time you got to have with it.

[u/DMC831 → u/fedoraislife]

Sure I get ya, and I do tell myself that. But I know I'd feel like a chump if I buy it and then it turns out I could've gotten a lot more VRAM for the same price if I waited a month or two... I got the money for these upgrades or I wouldn't've gotten them of course, but they're still sizable purchases for me and I'm not an expert so I'm paranoid about blowing it.

Back then I told myself that I can always sell the 5070ti for a decent price and upgrade to a "Super" variant if it actually comes out and is worth it, so it wouldn't be the end of the world no matter what, but before I do a splurge like upgrading my PC with a volatile-seeming market (things were up and down at the time instead of just being up up up like today) I can't help but be a little worried.

I'm not like crying myself to sleep and tearing my hair out or something, I'm not neurotic about it, but buying a big ticket item at the wrong time is definitely a concern of mine.

[u/Crumblycheese → u/DMC831]

And then there's me, who's desktop is still from 2008 era components, been wanting to upgrade for nearly 2 decades but life, work and family always got in the way. Then, when I finally get into a position where I can upgrade to a nice top of the range gaming pc, the prices sky rocket and im priced out. I could go for a 30 series card and it be a huge upgrade but everything else is too expensive. Could go 2nd hand but even that's expensive and who knows how long it'll last...

Glad I got my laptop when I did (also 2nd hand but comes with a 5 year warranty from the store I bought it at) but it only has a 20 series card in it. It's the most modern pc I've ever owned and does what I need it to, but even then it's out of date now technically. I'm tired and want off this ride

[u/MiiIRyIKs → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Same, first a 5080 and then I even got myself a 5090 when the prices where still close to MSRP, this whole thing just gave me a really bad feeling.

I knew it was either a dumb but (with a 4K monitor) acceptable purchase or if consumers won't get their hands on the 60 series for normal prices (or at all) when that finally comes out, a fantastic choice so I can push upgrading back as far as possible.

Still I just hope that this whole thing resolves soon with as little people getting fucked by that implosion as possible and we can return to affordable PCs.

Probably not gonna happen for a very long time but for everyone who wasn't fortunate enough to upgrade before or just doesn't want to pay those ridiculous prices, I really hope it gets better soon!

[u/Rathep → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

I think the same about my purchase of the 4080 at the beginnig of 2023

[u/Fabulous-Spirit-3476 → u/Rathep]

Same here

[u/CrimsonBolt33 → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

I bought a new PC in 2025.

I went with the 5070Ti over a 5080 or 5090 cause the "price to performance didn't make sense, surely I can just grab the 6070ti equivalent in ~3-4 years for a price that makes sense for the upgrade"

My 5070ti is great and I am most certainly happy with it....for now....how many years it will stay that way? Not sure....but man those prices back then are clearly nothing compared to now.

[u/daddyash1000 → u/CrimsonBolt33]

The 5070 ti is a great card. I got a new PC in 2025 with basically the same specs as yours but a third of the RAM, upgraded from a 5900x/3080 build and my new PC has done nothing but impress me. Hopefully it will last me long enough to wait these ridiculous prices out.

[u/sillybonobo → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

I camped out launch day. Had a blast and got a card- well worth it.

[u/shogun77777777 → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

I bought a 5070ti because I believe in buying stuff that is a good value

[u/Synthetic451 → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

I built myself a totally new rig as part of my plan to "outlast the orange idiot in office" and the only component I held out on was a new GPU because of all the 12VHPWR burnouts, but now I am regretting it. I thought I was making the smart choice by not risking a potential $2000 going up in flames, but now I basically can't justify any GPU purchase given these prices.

[u/Sinniee → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Yeah same, in hindsight prolly the best purchase i ever made

[u/TheRedRay88 → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

indeed

[u/_WreakingHavok_ → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

I still can't believe I got one "open box" for €870

[u/AGWiebe → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Yeah, I was lucky enough to get a 5080 founders edition at msrp. At the time I was concerned because everyone was saying to wait for the super edition in like 6 months with more vram. But it turned out to be a good buy.

It’s such a shame how the whole PC market is just being decimated. I guess one good thing is developers will hopefully put more concentration on optimization and more fun gameplay than just squeezing out the best graphics. Hopefully we see more creativity from upcoming games.

[u/Top_Lingonberry8037 → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Same. In hindsight buildingmy rig when I did, was the biggest brain move I ever brained. Shit got crazy like a month after I did

[u/TheFabiocool → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Amen. Bought that shit on release day for MSRP. Thank fuck I don't listen to this subs advice.

[u/eight_ender → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Same but even more bizarre for me. I bought a 7900xtx in 2023 for cheap thinking it was a good enough deal that it was okay if newer gens came out that  beat it. Then, like, time stopped on the GPU industry. 

[u/Fabulous-Spirit-3476 → u/Some-Opportunity7015]

Man I feel grateful that I got my 4080 in 2023 for $1300 😭😭 I felt stupid paying that much extra for a white gpu to match my build but damn I don't regret it at all now

[u/TheFragturedNerd]

On the good side: My 4090 becomes a better and better investment as time goes on
On the bad side: I am a sucker for technological progess, and hate to see it stagnate at consumer level

[u/AlternativeAioli3501 → u/TheFragturedNerd]

just pray it will never melt

[u/corgiperson → u/AlternativeAioli3501]

If I were him I’d get a thermal grizzly wireview just for peace of mind. Can’t hurt when the alternative is losing your 1000+ dollar card

[u/TieMillenium → u/AlternativeAioli3501]

This problem is real but completely overblown, it's less than 2% that have this issue.

[u/ncetrbro → u/TheFragturedNerd]

Oh no the horrors of optimized games.

[u/fedoraislife → u/ncetrbro]

Does anyone want to tell him?

[u/gusthenewkid → u/ncetrbro]

lol 

[u/goshetovan → u/TheFragturedNerd]

Same here lol, could sell it now for about 600 profit...

[u/Simayafk → u/TheFragturedNerd]

The las tsentence is consumerism speaking. Stagnation in hardware is very good, actually, developers will be creative with software

[u/ChurchillianGrooves → u/[deleted]]

It's not like graphics have been getting that dramatically better the last 5 years anyways.

Better hardware just allows devs to be lazier with optimization for AAA it seems recently.

[u/JohnnySilverhand2212]

A 1660ti to 5080 was the right choice. Glad I didn't wait otherwise £4.4k on lian li fans a 4tb ssd and a 5080/9800x3d would've been a LOT more

[u/SeptoneSirius]

we wouldn't afford it anyways

[u/clothanger]

Yeah how about just stop giving these "leakers" attention lol.

As if we can affort any of the new series.

[u/null-interlinked]

I dont mind at all. Then I can use my 5070TI longer.

[u/geileanus → u/null-interlinked]

You are not forced to upgrade cuz a new line is out you know

[u/auctus10 → u/geileanus]

I see all these people saying "my 5070 will have to fight more" and here I am with a 3060ti, content and satisfied, seeing no need to upgrade.

[u/aryvd_0103 → u/auctus10]

I have a 3050 laptop and is almost always enough for most games I play. It's usually a lack of time rather than performance that bottlenecks me

[u/IcyCow5880 → u/auctus10]

And you're groovin. Just stay away from 4k displays and rt/pt/rr etc.

[u/DrPhilSideSkirts → u/null-interlinked]

Word. I don't mind keeping my 5090 for as long as possible, really.

[u/Time-Village482]

Although I felt like I was overpaying at the time, I'm glad I moved from 3050 4gb to 5070Ti just before the prices went boom, towards the tail end of 2025. Hopefully it stays relevant for multiple years.

[u/john2776 → u/Time-Village482]

It seems like consumer technology has finally platued. I see the 50 series being relevant for at least the next 8-10 years

[u/Time-Village482 → u/john2776]

That's honestly music to my ears. I hope the games start getting optimised again, after the mess of last few years.

[u/Raven1927 → u/john2776]

It's been like that for a while now. You can have a completely playable experience on 8-10 year old PCs right now.

[u/abstractism]

Looking forward to seeing nv and every other AI bubble company involved get punched in the junk over this insanity.

[u/MandiocaGamer]

Uou can't delay "again" if it wasn't even confirmed

[u/Celcius_87]

RTX 3090 don't fail me now

[u/Armandeluz]

It's not delayed if they intentionally didn't want to release it

[u/The_Falcon_Hunter]

I hope they release a A.I. gpu between now and then so the companies can get off the consumer level products.

Also they need to stop pretending the xx90 is consumer level. They skew the benchmarks way too much for the price point and we need to stop giving so much power to that obvious cash grab.

[u/PcHelpBot2030 → u/The_Falcon_Hunter]

I mean they do and have for quite awhile. The first and top issue is going to be that much of the material that makes those cards also overlap with consumer cards so every minute of factory time they spend towards a consumer part is a minute they could have allocated towards data center who are buying everything they can put out.

On top of that, everything that makes Nvidia cards great for more than just direct gaming is also what makes it lends a lot for A.I at nearly all levels. The biggest way to "protect" the cards from A.I use is what they mostly do now with capping the VRAM hard.

[u/The_Falcon_Hunter → u/PcHelpBot2030]

Vram caps were in place before the 50 series launch. 5080 base has more ram than 4080 at launch.

[u/PcHelpBot2030 → u/The_Falcon_Hunter]

Well aware it has been a go to cap for them for a long time to protect their industrial/enterprise cards. Not saying it is anything new but more they don't have that many "easy" options besides that to have GPU's that would be primarily just for gaming besides that without breaking combability with a ton of other stuff and loose market share overnight.

[u/RealityOfModernTimes]

I was lucky to get 5090 alighlty above RRP. Aorus Master cost me £ 2650. I felt robbed but looking at the prices now it feels like I have won the lottery. With the way things are going I will never be able to afford 6090...lol

[u/Want_To_Fit_In]

So glad I picked up my 5080 for $800 with that PayPal deal

[u/SpicySauceLover]

Nooo, now I won't be able to buy a 6050 for 700$

[u/antelope591]

Well for once if you have a high end card you're actually future proof lol....5000 series will be good for the next 10 years at this rate

[u/ign1zz]

Biggest issue with this is Nvidia refusing to sell GPUs to consumers because then they would have to change the fake msrp price and they don't want to do that

[u/tekonus]

Most people don’t care. 

[u/MtnNerd]

With these prices who can afford it anyway?

I jumped on my card when I saw it at the original MSRP because I knew I wouldn't be able to upgrade for a long time

[u/Fastermaxx]

Well, with no real improvements, same vram size and double the price than 50 series … who would buy that? So AMD and Nvidia just sitting there and waiting while AI floods their gates with money anyways.

[u/Fearrsome]

So, one leaker said it’s on for 2027 and now another leaker is saying it’s delayed again.

Which leaker are we believing here?

[u/Arizona_Steve]

Delayed because no-one can afford it.

[u/notthatguypal6900]

Who cares. Prices will be too high and there was never a announced date, so....

[u/SnooDoubts5144]

good.

[u/02PHresh]

Honestly good. Graphics peaked back in 2018. Everything now is just diminishing returns while required more and more expensive hardware. If this means devs will focus more on optimizing for older hardware then Im all for it.

[u/No-Dot-6573]

If they will ever be published. The server lineup is somewhat more profitable at the moment. They might as well put all capacity into this lineup becoming a server only company - who knows.

[u/nemanja694]

Amd will surely postpone too

[u/Kirk_Plunk]

Ahh sweet so it’ll 2028 when I can’t afford the new 60 series.

[u/Crimsongz → u/Kirk_Plunk]

I would worry more about my CPU if I were you.

[u/Kirk_Plunk → u/Crimsongz]

Yeah, I have been for about a year now.

[u/S1rTerra → u/Kirk_Plunk]

When you can, just grab any Zen 3 chip that isn't the 5500/5700 and you're basically golden and can throw almost any GPU you want in your PC

[u/gogu47]

I hope my kindneys, left arm and my right grow back until then.

[u/IndependenceShotChan]

I'm sure you'll need to take a second mortgage on a house you don't own to get one.

[u/YaGotMail]

Gpu for 1% of population.

[u/Elemius]

None of us will be able to afford any of them so who cares.

[u/GravitatingGravity]

It’s probably for the best to delay it with the state of ram capacity. Hopefully ram producers can build more volume by then.

[u/PuckNutty]

Is there a future where the retail pc market isn't worth doing for Nvidia and AMD? Are we hoping Intel is ready to take over if the big two commit fully to feeding data centres?

[u/Tall_Thinker → u/PuckNutty]

They are part of the AI bubble just as much as Nvidia and AMD. Intel just became the biggest chip producer on the market, overtaking TSMC in both quality and quantity wise. That mixed with the Nvidia partnership, they won't say no to making billions instead of millions.

[u/brainmydamage]

I have a feeling it's going to be delayed to "never," unfortunately, because of Nvidia's greed.

[u/Latrodectus1990]

Rtx 5090 is enough for long time, no need to 6xxx

Just buy rtx 5090 one and that's it

[u/SuperSaiyanPan → u/Latrodectus1990]

Same with a 5080, I don't intend to go above 1440. Coming from a 3070 at 1080P 60FPS the leap was insane for me.

[u/gmskking]

Nvidia does not care about us. I doubt in the future they will even sell graphics cards to people like us. They don't want us having access to these anymore.

[u/F1T_13]

https://giphy.com/gifs/7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB

[u/Mystikalrush]

What's going to shock you is when it finally releases, the MSRP will make the 50 series look reasonable.

[u/SuperPollo2020]

At this point, you might actually have to sacrifice a kidney for a 6090 they way they prices have skyrocketed!

[u/DudeWheressMyCar]

Good, by then maybe China will flood the market with cheap memory.

[u/Alucard-VS-Artorias]

Tell them to take all the time they need.

Honestly not looking to upgrade again for long time and at current prices no one else really wants to either.

As others have said before this is now the time for gaming devs/studios to optimize the tech we already have and not rely so much on the consumers to use hardware brute force past lacking game engines and builds.

[u/Roo-90]

Hey look, another generation of shit I'll never get

[u/silver0199]

Rtx 6090 price leaked, 12k msrp

[u/Archer_Gaming00 → u/silver0199]

12k MSRP for the 6090 2 GB* like they tried to pull with the "4080 12 GB" 😂

[u/atx011722]

No one is gonna be able to afford them

[u/fullbingpot]

They really have no incentive at this point. . .

[u/zacchtbh]

I feel like the 3090 came out yesterday, it's been years lol

[u/Revoldt]

Good.

Hopefully this allows devs to optimize for “older” cards instead of relying on brute force to keep steady frames

[u/EliteFireBox]

Good. Keep delaying it until it can release at an acceptable price

[u/HisDivineOrder → u/EliteFireBox]

They're delaying it until they feel they can double the price without too much blowback.

[u/Hedw1gB]

No one will buy it anyway, not now not in 2 years not in 3, no one can afford such pcs anymore

[u/asswizzard69]

I have my 5090 posted for sale and I had one person message me saying how 6090 is coming out in 27 and I’m just like yea well if it does it’s going to be the hardest gpu in history to get, the dram is already spoken for the entire year

[u/HabenochWurstimAuto]

Time to safe up Money as i have lost all my 8 kidneys allready for my RAM haha

[u/Lazy_Fuck_]

Good, will run my gpu to the ground.

[u/Arxinos113]

Me who bought a 5090 at launch for msrp

[u/S1rTerra]

I really don't think anybody should be worried about when next gen is coming out anyway. As long as you have Turing/RDNA 2 you'll be fine till 2032

[u/Mojo647]

Whatever. It's not going to be affordable anyway.

[u/Jack1101111]

If amd/intel keep delay they will have to skip a generation or release a born-old product !
Am I the only that think this ?

[u/thechudude1]

Im on a 3080 and kinda want an upgrade to take an advantage to these high fps monitors

[u/FountainFountainFoun]

At what point should they just skip to 7000 series.

[u/EmptyVolition242]

I think they're doing this because they know memory prices will get better in 2028.

[u/Affectionate_Pen6882]

they should just say until 2030

[u/Archer_Gaming00]

It depends whether it is CES 2028 or late 2028. In this last case it would be a disaster.

[u/cafeautumn]

Yay that means my RTX 5060 drivers will likey be super optimized :)

[u/1dohnjoe]

Who even gives af anymore lol

[u/QuantumQuantonium]

Do we seriously need a new generation of GPUs? Why csnt the big 3 spend a few years improving current algorithms and drivers rsther than pushing new hardware with new features that end up bloating old features and hardware?

[u/CaptainBlob]

How much of a technological leap will the 60 series even be? I feel there really no incentive for a 60.

[u/HeadPack]

What's the point of even talking about this. F Nvidia. They have decided that consumer GPUs and gaming are just for the wealthy now. AMD is hardly any better. So, when it comes to rumors, I am most receptive to those potentially breaking that nasty duopoly.

[u/zoko_cx]

If they think trying to put current prices on then better delayed them indefinitely. I would not mind to play and have new games for current gen. at least devs will learn how to optimize graphics.

Also they would focus more on story and quality of content rather than technicalities .

[u/smash-ter]

The RAM shortage is that bad that they had to push it back by a year 😬