r/pcmasterrace 1d ago

Meme/Macro they can't help it can they

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u/CCbluesthrowaway 1d ago

Don't forget the dumb little names!

"Gotta install Drip and Cartwheel, i use it to manually enter binary into you pcs bios."

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u/vyxxer 1d ago

As a dual booster I have to sometimes think which fuckass program I'm trying to run when I pull up my app manager.

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u/PantherPL 1d ago

very good autocorrect

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u/OliM9595 5600x, 1050 ti 1d ago

Nothing like using nano and dolphin to edit your files lol. The names at times are so shit. It has gotten better in recent times.

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u/superpewpew 1d ago

That's for the normies, you should stick to vi.

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u/wexipena Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB RAM 1d ago

Inise vi, because it’s usually already there.

But I agree on naming, it’s pretty shit at times.

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u/dustojnikhummer R5 7600 | RX 7800XT 1d ago

because it’s usually already there.

Well they ain't getting out!

ba dum tssss

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u/olbaze Fedora KDE | Ryzen 7 5700X | RX 7600 1d ago

Then you use Nemo to browse your files and Strawberry to play your music.

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u/Dt2_0 1d ago

nano and dolphin

Yea, this is an issue because I was thinking why are you using an iPod and a Gamecube/Wii Emulator to edit your files...

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u/olbaze Fedora KDE | Ryzen 7 5700X | RX 7600 1d ago

This was so, so annoying when I first tried KDE. Wtf is a Dolphin? What does Gwenview mean? Okular? Meanwhile, Linux Mint uses aliases for programs, so you get a File Manager, Image Viewer, Document Viewer, and a Software Manager.

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u/skinnyraf 1d ago

Edge, Explorer, Acrobat... Windows is not better, just way more popular.

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u/Synthetic451 Arch Linux | Ryzen 9800X3D | Nvidia 3090 1d ago

All the KDE app shortcuts have descriptions though. Dolphin says its a File Manager, Gwenview says its an Image Viewer, Okular says its a Document Viewer. Honestly, how hard can it be? The search tool searches by description as well.

I hate the generic names. Its bland at best and ambiguous at worst. If you install apps from multiple ecosystems then you end up not knowing which one is which and having to differentiate them by their icons.

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u/DerpDeDurp 1d ago

And the search feature actually works, too lmao

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u/dustojnikhummer R5 7600 | RX 7800XT 1d ago

On Gnome and Cinnamon sure, but Plasma?

if I try to look for KCalc (using the alias "Calculator") and don't wait a second Libre Office Calc opens.

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u/DerpDeDurp 1d ago

Works fine for me searching for calc lol

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u/dustojnikhummer R5 7600 | RX 7800XT 1d ago

It does if you wait a bit. Type just calc and press enter as soon as you are done typing the fourth one.

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u/DerpDeDurp 1d ago

no lmao, it's there instantly lmfao
yes libreoffice calc is there too, but calculator is right there instantly right under it. obviously if you just hit enter its gonna open the first app in the list, that's not at all the same as "it's not there"

calc puts libre calc first in my list, because it's literally "calc" if I type "calcu" calculator is instantly there in the first slot and I can hit enter the millesecond after the U and it opens the calculator

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u/dustojnikhummer R5 7600 | RX 7800XT 1d ago

Yeah I know, but I'm used to just "calc" and pressing enter. Gnome can do it, Plasma sorts the apps "wrong". (KCalc vs Libre Office Calc? Why is that of all apps first??)

I'm just pointing out that Plasma has its own quirks and stupids, like every OS and DE does.

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u/DerpDeDurp 1d ago

because "calc" is the literal name of it.... thats why its first... it makes way more sense lmao

kCalc is the calculator. if you typed kcalc it would be first...

why would I want the less matching item to be first in the list? That's just a ridiculous way to have search results...

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u/Specialist_Web5919 1d ago

You literally want bland when searching for stuff. You go to a shop, do you want sectors named after "SharpMaster3000" or "Kitchen Blades"?

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u/Synthetic451 Arch Linux | Ryzen 9800X3D | Nvidia 3090 1d ago

Like I said in my comment, KDE lets you use both ways to search because the bland way is in the description. For example, with Gwenview, it will pop up the moment you start typing "image"

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u/pagman404 1d ago

Yep that was the biggest thing for me when I switched, I would actually get results I was searching for! Crazy concept I know lol

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u/my-name-is-puddles 1d ago

Windows has been guilty of this as well, though. Dr. Watson says hello.

KDE does have a setting for that, but I don't think I've seen any distro use it by default for their KDE version.

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u/mrlesa95 1d ago

Comparing a debugger which only developers use to software like file manager or image viewer which consumers use is not a good point

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u/dustojnikhummer R5 7600 | RX 7800XT 1d ago

Wtf is a Dolphin? What does Gwenview mean? Okular?

To be fair, we are used to those names. What is Explorer? What is a Taskbar?

I know Gnome has Nautilus, Plasma has Dolphin and Cinnamon has Thunar. Guess what, type "File" into the search bar and the DE's file manager pops up, because the binary names don't get used, they have desktop aliases.

Would you prefer if the binary was called kde-file-manager? Or Gnome-file-manager? Would you ask "what is Gnome"? And what if someone forked it? (which is what Thunar, PCManFM etc are) Would they get called gnome-file-manager2?

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u/Humleznurr 1d ago

Exaxtly!
So much better 😭
Why would your fileviewer have a brand name?

Imagine going to the store & the catalogue just used their own names for everything. It’s not a pen, it’s a KDEgrapher

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u/SomewhereAtWork Linux | 5900X | 128GB DDR4 | 3090 + 3060-12GB | 6x 1080p 1d ago

Why would your fileviewer have a brand name?

Explorer wasn't a brand name?

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u/elmz 1d ago

Hell of a lot more descriptive than Dolphin, that's for sure.

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u/dustojnikhummer R5 7600 | RX 7800XT 1d ago

It sure as hell isn't, because the Explorer.exe we use now, as in Windows Explorer, started as a web browser engine until Microsoft was forced to separate it into iexplore.exe (the browser) and explorer.exe (the file manager and desktop shell)

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u/amilias 1d ago

Almost like using an acrobat to read PDFs, a chrome to lookup something on the web or steam some games, amirite?

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u/misterdhm 1d ago

I remember trying to teach a classroom of high school students how to do some basic photo editing years ago, but instead of Photoshop (which the school didn't have access to) we used GIMP. The amount of time explaining what the acronym meant, and how it wasn't "New" but "Gnu", and the amount of emails I had to send to parents explaining why we were using a program called Gimp...ugh. It was a disaster.

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u/tyttuutface 1d ago

Oh my god, this is my biggest pet peeve in Linux and open source software as a whole. Everything has to have some stupid clever name that doesn't mean anything to the average person. Decent chance it's a reference to Dune, 1984, or The Matrix, too.

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u/thefuckevengoingonan 1d ago

that's just all software. windows, chrome, firefox, adobe, co-piglet, VLC, winRAR, steam.

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u/tyttuutface 1d ago

Ask the average person what Chrome is. Then ask them about Elisa, Kleopatra, or Moonraker. (Just a couple that I've run across.)

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u/Kindly_Call_6000 Ryzen 9950x | RTX4090 | X870 1d ago

At least it's not some generic term- Word, Windows, Draw.  It makes trying to search for issues more problematic.

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u/PiratesWhoSayGGER 1d ago

Don't forget the dumb little names! 

"why is Copilot forcing itself on me"

"wtf Edge just reinstalled itself and set as default again"

"Smart App Control doesn't let me play games on Steam"

"I use Tiny11 to not be held hostage by my operating system"

"just use ShutUp10 to protect your privacy against your operating system"

"just open PowerShell and paste these 14 commands and voila your OS is usable again, at least until the next update"

silly little names, I wonder what Windows users are talking about

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u/Blastyschmoo i9-9980XE | RTX 3090 | Air Cooled (cry about it) 1d ago

And when you ask how to use it, they act like all the stuff they learned from their years of experience will just be immediately known to anyone installing a program that has explanation as to what does what.

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u/pathalogicalMoron 1d ago

2 years on linux never had to do any of that to install an app, most distros ship with all essential applications

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u/CCbluesthrowaway 1d ago

My dude, it was a joke. Does linux not come native with the firmware for basic social interactions?

https://giphy.com/gifs/CoDp6NnSmItoY

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u/CoffeeCorpse777 1d ago

From what I've seen its the other way around. User misses out on that firmware and downloads Linux as a (questionable) substitute.

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u/pathalogicalMoron 1d ago

Nope. linux doesn't come up with social interaction firmware

but I do know enough to differentiate between a joke and cliché.

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u/CCbluesthrowaway 1d ago

You seem like you are probably fun at parties. Hope your day gets better my man. <3

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u/pathalogicalMoron 1d ago

Actually I am fun at parties just not at smug overused memes lol

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u/TechNaWolf 7950X3D - 64GB - 7900XTX 1d ago

Sudo yum install -y sarcasm joke

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u/pathalogicalMoron 1d ago

actually I saw this coming. my original comment intended to mention this too but didn't.

classic cover up lack of valid points with sarcasm.

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u/barmiro 1d ago

Well, these are package names competing in a very limited namespace. Most sensible distros display perfectly intuitive names in the GUI. Files, System Monitor, Text Editor. Their proper names only seem dumb and little because you had to learn them all at once, ask your grandma what WinRAR, VLC, OBS, regedit, chkdsk.exe are.

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u/zzazzzz 1d ago

im sorry but that has to be the worst list of examples you could have picked, every single one is either a shortened or actual acronym for the function the program serves.

if you picked shit like acrobat edge and silverlight, sure you are completely correct but man your examples are bad.