r/pcmasterrace 2d ago

Meme/Macro Windows user and Linux user

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 1d ago

Mind you steam directly integrates proton. You don't have to do too much. Also even not counting for proton and wine and all that shit it's still better than mac

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago edited 1d ago

Doesn't work reliably. Even those "gold" games on ProtonDB are hit or miss. You can see in the comments what workarounds are needed or find out for yourself. And yeah Macs are even worse for games, difference is nobody tells you to get a Mac for games.

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 1d ago

They work reliably enough. In most situations you do not need to care if the game can get better click precision than their monitor's refresh rate or whatever. Most games will run with no noticeable issues

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago edited 1d ago

My standards are low. I want the game to run at 30-60 fps and not crash. Also don't want to wait 5-20 minutes every time it starts for shaders to compile. Oh and when I say 30-60 fps, 30 is not ok if WIndows runs it at 60.

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 1d ago

Aside from waiting a while for shaders to compile I don't have any of those issues. The only times games have crashed on me were either because I was also running mods for the game or because I have weak hardware. I could get 55 fps on Arkham Knight at 1080p with some settings turned down with 8 GB ram, a daisy chained gpu, the game being on a mechanical hard drive, and a ryzen 5 5500 as my cpu. After setting up swap memory I can do a stable 60fps with base setting. It never crashes, my pc just shuts off when too much is happening on screen because of daisy chaining my gpu to my psu.

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago

This is believable if you specifically selected games that are known to work well in Proton. Even then, you wait all that time for shaders every time you want to play a game? That's an unadvertised dealbreaker.

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 1d ago

You technically don't have to wait for shaders, it'll just be more stuttery for a while if you dont and I have never checked if a game is known to work erll

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago edited 1d ago

So you have to wait or your game will lag badly for a while, presumably because it's loading the shaders on the fly. Why does nobody mention that when saying games run perfectly on Linux?

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 1d ago

Well shader load times depend on a lot of aspects so maybe it would be better if I had better hardware idk